How to approach neighbour about 6am screaming…

She puts them outside so they an scream there not indoors in her ear. Some kids love the sound of screaming. Tell them to stop and they'll scream even more. Time to get some earplugs. Perhaps get the mother to pay for them! Kids usually grow out of screaming for fun.

You want to come to our place for a couple of hours. We live in a tenement so each block of flats at the back exit in to one large courtyard, with a fence for each block. So with the courtyard being as I describe, the kids all play together, and yes they scream. The kids scream all day long, and they always have. This is something that has always fascinated me, as I don’t remember hearing kids scream anywhere else like they do here. They don’t bother me though, I seep wearing noise cancelling headphones playing white noise and an eye mask.

Approach her in super nice mode. Explain that you have an issue. She will either act like a prat and treat you like rubbish or she will take in what you said. If she acts like a prat write a letter to city hall explaining exactly what she said how you found it offensive etc. that's all you can really do. For anyone annoying you.

I think you've handled this like a pro OP. No idea if comptalning to the council would help but perhaps the threat of it has done the trick? I would definitely follow through with a complaint if necessary. She definitely does not need to let them out so early and as you say she could take them to the park but she can't be bothered. Hard for her direct neighbours who have to hear them through the wall but maybe they can complain too. I do feel slightly sorry for this poor woman I must admit but she needs to handle parenting better.

Sometimes there’s just not that much you can do. My 22-months old tends to be grumpy in the mornings when he wakes up at 6am and cries/screams. When I take him out, it’s not because I fancy a trip with him at 6am but because I think that’s still the better option for my neighbours than him screaming at home, if he has a particularly unsettled morning. But they will hear us leaving the house. And yes, he is fed, changed, cuddled and well cared for, but he’s a small toddler and sometimes won’t settle immediately no matter what I do.

My four grandchildren live with me ages 4 up too 10 they are very noisy! Garden access is between 11 am and 6pm two at a time because they would annoy everyone otherwise me included! I do find it difficult too keep them all quiet in and out the house, but it is doable

Housing officer here!!!

Absolutely bring it to the council's attention, if this was reported to me, I would be contacting our tenant to arrange a tenancy review and see what the cause is, and if there is any additional support we can offer. It may be that the children are neurodiverse, mum may be struggling to cope, lots of possibilities. She could just be inconsiderate also, if it's not reported, it will continue with no change at all. People tend to listen once they're aware it can impact their tenancy.

That would disturb other neighbours

They will absolutely not do anything about people being in their own gardens, especially kids and in summer! Also if you hear said kids crying in the car, would you not hear them jn the house? Would you put a complaint in then?

If it’s a council or housing association tenant, you can make a complaint. This happened to my work colleague who had a very young and noisy family put next door to her. Her husband has dementia and doesn’t cope with loud, sudden noises. She had to keep a diary, submit doorbell footage and eventually they were moved on. She wasn’t the only neighbour to file a complaint but it took a while to gather and look over the evidence.

As a parent I don let mine play outside until 9am and tell them screaming is not playing ! Totally sympathise with you !!

This is so entitled I don't know where to start. They're your kids, and your child(ren) should not be impacting on anyone else and that means ND kids too. Neurodiversity is nothing new.

I had a similar problem in my old semi but it was the mum screaming at 6am and the bed banging on the radiator. Regular as clockwork but thankfully all over in 5 mins so I could usually get back to sleep.
I did wonder about asking if they could pop a cushion behind the head board or if she realised her kids might get woken up too but they did not look approachable

Well it's not parenting is it . . .

If they were then they shouldn't be outside on their own at the crack of dawn. It may be a reason but parents can still keep their children indoors until a decent hour, all kids need boundaries and routine appropriate to their understanding. It was CBeebies for my kids until after breakfast. When CBeebies (or milkshake) finished they knew they could go out

My one neighbour has 3 small kids and they can keep it all day, mostly shouting punctuated with fighting and blood curdling screams but they are only in the garden from about 10am to 7pm so its not affecting my sleep at least.
Neighbours the other side have older kids, junior age, who are on a trampoline out the front or playing on the street shouting and screaming for short periods in the day but its relentless in the evening until about 10pm. I do wonder how they can keep it up, my tgroat hurts just listening to them. We have to keep the living room windows shut or we wouldn't be able to hear the TV over the noise. When they first moved in I keot checking out the window as I thought they were injured or being attacked its that bad so I can sympathise with OP

How backwards. She’s letting her kids scream at 5:45 in the morning in the street and you think OP should take her a cake? She needs to be told to shut the fuck up and have some respect for the rest of her neighbours.

They are quite well known I thought.
They emit a pulsating noise at a frequency that generally only people under 25 can hear, and it's very annoying. Apparently. I am very much over 25.

Our ultrasonic teenage "yob" repeller / deterrent works by generating a high pitch sound which a teenager finds very annoying and therefore they want move away from the area. However it is silent to adults.

that makes no sense.

I’m afraid you either need to keep him indoors or get in the car and take him somewhere he won’t disturb others. It’s just not fair on neighbours to constantly disturb them. I’m Audhd and my son is adhd a there’s a lot of things which you need to work with - parents need to find solutions to issues, it’s not ok for neighbours to have constant disturbances in their lives

Whilst I fully understand how challenging this must be for parents, it is doubled so for those who only want to live in their home with an acceptable amount of peace.

so yes, nothing against neurodiversity, but…
There is a limit, and I have sympathy for neighbours! I hope you continue to find methods that help calm your son.

"Nothing against neurodiversity, but... "
Sadly he cant help it and neither can I, I realise they are noisuy but what can I do, realistically, if you have some amazing methods of calming down a ND child please share it with the world, Im sure my OT and all the other specialists involved would love to listen!

Get one of these mosquito devices used to deter kids and teenagers.

If they wake her up,they must be pretty noisy!