How to approach neighbour about 6am screaming…

Sorry. I just checked. Opposite so you wouldn't hear it through the walls. Still, I still think a little politeness can go a long way. Even a compromise? If you ask her not to bring them out till 7am (not that that is something you can dictate, but you can ask for it as a neighbour), then that could be a halfway point that works for both of you. Of course there are some people who won't listen and in that case, you need to work out what you believe is reasonable and act according to that.

There's really no need to be unpleasant about anything. I understand your sleep is being disturbed. Some people have different schedules and there's not a lot that can be done about that except to talk it out. But it you snap? You could end up with some really bad feeling between you and as you're neighbours, that could wind up being extremely unpleasant for you in the long run. Better to first have a talk with her, or if there's another more reasonable adult in the house, them. Then you can escalate if necessary and if nothing happens. When we had an issue with our neighbour, we actually spoke to their estate agent/landlady and it did help. That could be a step, so maybe talking to the council wouldn't hurt. It does seem a bit much for children. Children's noise isn't something that can fully be controlled. I imagine you'd still hear them through the walls of your houses are right next door? (Sorry, I'm so many pages ahead I can't go back and check easily on the phone!) Honestly, diplomacy is the best solution. And I know you shouldn't have to do this, but buttering somebody up never hurts.

I feel like if you buy next to a council estate you shouldn't be surprised 🤷‍♀️

You can try the council but the response will depend. If she is an otherwise exemplary tenant and there are no other complaints it will probably get ignored. Generally, the council will only act in cases of antisocial behaviour. That generally requires that the police have been called several times, crime incident numbers generated and given to the complainant to pass on to the council. If there have been no threats, if the noise is not malicious, or if the screaming is just children rather than the sound of a domestic assault happening then there is not a lot that will happen. Basically if no crime is being committed, nothing will happen.

I have a similar issue. I have a downstairs neighbour who is a teenager and he insists on playing very bass heavy music every day for many hours of the day. I am beating my head against a brick wall with the council because it is not loud enough to be heard in the street, is not accompanied by verbal abuse or threats, and no crime is being committed. So I have to live with my floor boards and furniture bouncing rhythmically for large chunks of the day. I can't move - I've tried to apply for a new home with the local housing associations but effectively I'm stuck on a wait list for years and years because I'm not a priority case. I have invested in noise cancelling headphones, ear plugs and go out a lot.

I can only recommend you to get noise cancelling headphones and earplugs and combine the two for an effective silence in the mornings.

Their chance to play is not her responsibility.

What about her chance to sleep? It's way too early.

You are a considerate neighbor mm, just wish my neighbors would take in to consideration people don't want kids making a racket outside their back door every day, there is a park just down our road where they can kick a football round 🤨 for god's sake just get off your ruddy phone and take them there to give us some peace! 🙏

Nobody has to put up with noisy neighbors! Jeez, we've got em on both sides, inconsiderate, self-entitled morons. 😠

You can’t. I had a neighbour complain about my kids (playing in normal hours) and the housing association told me kids playing isn’t anti social behaviour.

Jeez, can sympathise, kid next door booting football against garage door all day!!! No consideration for neighbors !!! 🤬

Eww at the smoking at 5.45am 🤢

It is very unreasonable

Once you begin fixating on something, it becomes intolerable. Totally understandable that you are at your wits end. Presumably there are other neighbours also disturbed by the early noise? Could you get together and go en masse to request no pre 8 am outdoor play? My son's piano playing led to neighbours presenting him with a timetable of acceptable practice times. (Aged 30!)

I would go and have a chat again and say it’s not only you this is affecting but it’s affecting others as well. Other neighbours say they hear her shouting and screaming at kids at all times if the day. I would suggest this isn’t normal behaviour. Maybe ask if she needs help in the way SS can help? Is she coping? Etc. etc.

The playing outside is not ok, bit perhaps that’s the only way she can function right no. Putting them in the car, can hardly be helped. She can’t stay in as her children don’t like going in the car. I imagine it’s very stressful for her. Maybe play some white buse or wear ear plugs.

I live rurally. At that time of the morning there would be complaints here too. They’re children, not animals, and as such they can be taught to respect the fact that it’s much to early to be making that kind of noise.

It drives me nuts when bad neighbours like this think they have the right to destroy their neighbours right to a reasonable level of peace in their own homes. People who let their kids out at 6am are ignorant, selfish and stupid!

Yes, if its the council housing stock your neighbours are living in, the Housing Dept. should deal with it. It's a valid complaint as builders aren't even allowed to start that early in the morning. Housing department should be dealing with it as this is unacceptable behaviour from their tenant. They probably have a complaints email address on the Council website. Keep records of everything and if you don't get the result you want, escalate it to the Corporate complaints Dept, whose number should also be on the website.

Scream out your window at them to shut the f up. I would.

I think that we share neighbours, OP!
One evening, the grandma and father were arguing and shouting loudly in the front garden when I finally felt it was safe to garden and I snapped and shouted 'shut up' and it worked.

Sedatives, more like! I’d get annoyed, go round and tell her it isn’t acceptable l we did it with neighbours, the younger of the 2 girls literally screamed all day. Zero parenting, all 3 dc in the garden as long as it wasn’t pissing down, older girl made up impossible to win games, it was horrific. Went round, told them it was unacceptable and could they not take her inside? They did. Now she’s grown up, has a child of her own who doesn’t scream, thank fuck.

Unfortunately for some type of noise there is no protection, like night toilet flushing, dogs barking and so on. The first resort is always suggested to talk to the person making the noise, in the hope they didn't realise how much it is disturbing you.

Honestly very polite approach but it would only work with polite people.

However the council people are human, they might decide to do something or not.

Give your council a call and see what they say.

You are definitely not being unreasonable but there isn't necessarily a solution.

Same happened to me when a neighbour lit fire repeatedly to their garden waste during hot nights. We were coughing but the firemen said if there is an adult and the fire is unattended they won't do anything.

Still try to speak to the council noise, abatement department, in some areas they might take initiative.

Don't think that renting a council flat is anyway helping your cause and I find this comment honestly not appropriate.

Reminds me of Wayne and Waynetta Slob!

Can I just say something I am at the other end I own my house and my children were playing basketball in the house at 18:30 the neighbour daughter came in her bathrobe accusing us of banging walls I said I work a day and kids at school don't know who bangs walls but certainly not us she started talking in a rude way I said well we don't do that and my son started playing basketball and she said so it is the ball that causes it I said please do not come on my door next time for such a thing and on such hours her own daughter smokes cannabis all evening and the smell comes through to my kitchen and after 20:00 my house is a dead house even i go to bed as knackered waking up doing chores and working her daughter who is 18 bangs doors at unsociable hours and bangs doors at 1am as her mother has not given her the house keys like this is getting beyond control but my 5 year old showed her the ball and said listen this ball says indoor don't know what she is on about but I am done with her daughter slamming doors and shouting and gaslighted us. I am looking to put a formal complaint to environmental health as her cannbis smell comes in my kitchen and living room..

I hear you. My next door (terraced houses) has a boy that has screamed his head off since he could walk! I have to shut my bedroom window overlooking the gardens and bang on the bedroom wall when he's yelling for mum at stupid o'clock!

Absolutely this! Doubtless the pp is a fully paid up member of the #bekind brigade. 🙄

Yes shout at them or get someone to do it for you. Record them , establish that they are doing it and then if someone complains it is your 'word' against theirs'

You cant effectively complain officially because kids' noise is probably protected

Shouting at them lets everyone know you will escalate if they don't want to be polite. Your sleep is more important than some kids screaming unnecessarily