How to approach neighbour about 6am screaming…

oh really....why bother with such an unhelpful reply

I think parents have a responsibility to ensure their children keep as quiet as possible before at least 8am, maybe 9am on weekends. It’s not always possible but the effort should be there. It’s just courtesy to your neighbours. I’d make a noise complaint- if she’s not bothered after one complaint she won’t care if you’re upset imo.

I think at 5:45 am it would be considered a noise nuisance? I’d certainly be reporting, probably to social services as well as the council. It’s shit parenting.

I read the op and they just scream full pelt non stop. and imagined hours of it

but turns out 10-20 mins whilst the mother is having a fag and involves crying too.

It makes no odds whether they're a council tenant or not but yes any noise complaint goes to the council.

Decent earplugs will work wonders.

Did I read that correctly? I would think someone was bat shit if they did this to me on the grounds of wanting to complain about something.

i can understand your distress but i don't think screaming children is considered actionable noise nuisance by the council because it's considered general household noise.Do you have any welfare concerns about the children?

I'd absolutely report them to the council/housing association. I would be driven to murder over this 😆

The council won’t do anything because noise from children is classed as domestic living

A lot of kids who are ND scream.
I’m sure the mum doesn’t want her kids screaming in her ear at 6am either!
But she does need to find a way to stop it impacting the neighbours so much.

Before going to the council, I would just pop a note through the door.
Say it as nicely as possible as there’s nothing worse than feeling like someone is slagging off your kids.

This is the post where she says the children are following the mother when she goes outside rather than her sending them into the garden for hours.

I dislike smoking too but it's part of the pattern suggesting this disturbance, whilst annoying, is probably not nearly as bad as people who put their dog out at that time and leave it barking for hours, and similar to people who are unnecessarily loud leaving for work at that time (which to be fair is likely to be what she is doing on the days the OP hears her putting the kids in the car).

8pm. Not 5.45am though and I doubt the OP is screaming high pitched like children do.
Chalk and cheese.

Children do make noise and there is no harm in that.
OP, is it really screaming?
I really think that you should invest in earplugs.
One of my friends is having a very difficult time with neighbours who are complaining about her noisy children.
Chilldren make noise and that is very different to screaming.
As another poster pointed out, children don't have the capacity for ongoing screaming.

It doesn't sound as though they are let outside to play, but rather are following the mother when she goes outside to smoke or she's putting them in the car to take them somewhere (to a childminder maybe?. I'll look for that post.

Before having kids myself I would have thought this was completely unreasonable.

Now I have my own young kids and they are early risers, I can empathise with your neighbour for letting them out earlier than others would deem reasonable, especially during these heatwaves when the house is hot. I let mine play in the garden from 6am if they want to be out there, but I don't let them scream constantly! They do of course have moments of getting overexcited though and shout/exclaim, which I feel guilty about and I remind them to play quietly.

Your neighbour lost my empathy when you said she was a smoker though, as I think smoking is abhorrent in itself but doing around children is absolutely inexcusable. If she doesn't have any regard for her own or her children's health, I highly doubt she'd be remotely concerned about disturbing her neighbours.

In terms of a short term fix though, get yourself a noise machine! Even though our kids sleep in their own room now we still have a noise machine in our room to block out the noise of the neighbourhood dog barks, cat screeching, milkman round and the neighbours setting off to work early/returning home after nightshifts. Means you can have your window open in summer to enjoy the breeze but not be disturbed so easily.

It's still weird behaviour whether you remember the poster or not

There is such a thing as parenting your children and being responsible for their behaviour. The mother could keep them inside until 8am, like other parents do. If my DC shouted, screamed or whined I would make them come indoors.

Hmm

So according to your first post it's sometimes in the garden, but sometimes she's getting them into the car.

This post adds the information that it's crying sometimes, not always actually screaming.

Also it's 10 minutes not hours.

I can see it's annoying to be woken up, but I don't think you have a ground for complaint when you detail factually what actually happens rather than exaggerating.

I would gone it a go in that situation if it were me.

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How about a parent actually parent properly? The selfish entitled idiot needs to stop letting her little brats in the garden at such a ridiculously early time and tell them to stop the stupid screaming

Yes I knew what you meant

I was on the thread and remember the cat user name ( and thinking - wow, are people that thoughtless?!)

Can you speak to her again? Lay it on

You know what I meant. It's downright strange to dig around copying and pasting a post from an unrelated thread.

No not necessary to shout for your cat and not care who you are affecting 😜