AIBU to feel sorry for the children of today?

How can any normal human being prevent this when the people in charge are the cause of dark atrocities, building data centres everywhere on public land, charging forward with AI. Idiots using AI like it’s their brain for the simplest questions.
Kill off wildlife in the land, murdering humans at an alarming rate for the earth’s minerals, bombing the shit out of countries, but it’s the average persons selfish actions causing this? Nope. As long as money and power continue to savage the earth it is hopeless.
I will keep recycling, travel by plane once a year, not pave my entire garden killing off insects and worms that help support the environment but otherwise I have no control whatsoever over the environment.

More absolute bullshit masquerading as fact. No wonder we're fucked if people throw up nonsense like this with any kind of conviction.

If I had the time I'd rebuff this entire post sentence by deluded sentence, but I'll go straight to the obvious one: I have a wind turbine on my suburban house, and no fewer than three heat pumps. All fall under permitted development in my English local authority, although the freeholder of the land my house sits on required me to site the turbine out of view from the front of the house, which was a little suboptimal. I couldn't find a suitable supplier in the UK, so imported it from Germany.

As for things like 'you "must" buy an EV' - you know that's just not true, don't you? Everyone else does.

You really must stop presenting such bullshit as fact. Comments like this are outright bloody dangerous.

We know, with absolute certainty, that the world cannot sustain the meat-rich diet rich nations currently enjoy, never mind what developing nations aspire to. Beef in particular is one of the biggest contributors to greenhouse gas emissions and also uses about 15 tonnes of water per kilo of beef. Any perfunctory search of the serious evidence will tell you this.

The United Nations is evidence-led, with no commercial axe to grind: https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/climate-issues/food

Why mention red meat? Vegetables have far more impact on the enviroment considering they travel thousands of miles. All my meat comes from 2 miles down the road. Your avocados are coming from thousands of miles away and using copious amounts of water to grow them. Stop demonising meat

Getting bored of these posts now

And, despite the flying and the cars, they will still have less of an effect on the environment than your children will over their lifetimes.

Climate change is a bit of a white elephant. It's used to make money for share holders, and it's also a golden ticket for government to invent new taxes and restrictions. Ever consider why the answer to all "environmental concerns" is a new tax or charge? The UK is responsible for about 1% of all alleged "planet killing" emissions, but we are taxed, fined and regulated as though we are THE country to blame. And it's all for money. We have massive wind and solar farms, that produce "too much" power, so not only did we have to switch them off this summer, we (the bill payers) had to pay the investors who own then money to keep them switched off. We can't refine any oil here, so even if we pump the North Sea dry and Frack every fracking inch of the UK, we can't do anything with our oil or gas except sell it to others.

It's a joke. Did you know that in the UK you cant have a heat pump and a wind turbine in your garden together? The councils think it would be too noisy and aesthetically unappealing, but you can have a whole street of heat pumps, that's fine. You "must" buy an EV. But if you dont have a driveway it will cost you the same in "fuel" as a petrol car. Insurance is more, pay per mile on top. But hey, "it's for the environment innit".

We are being used and abused in the UK by politicians flogging us with the "environmental" whip, but we are an absolute irrelevance in terms of climate change. If you are worried about the environment, the best thing you can do is not have children.

When I had two babies and was very sleep deprived and struggling with zero support, my SIL smugly told me she wouldn’t be having children as it wasn’t environmentally responsible.

in the last 12 months she and my brother have been on 8 short haul flights, eat copious amounts of red meat and have two diesel guzzling cars. I’ve realised they aren’t really that bothered about the environment. It was just a way to have a self-impressed little dig. 🤷‍♀️

It’s illogical not to have children because of every problem going on in the world. There are so many issues facing humanity that if everyone took the same logic, we would die out tomorrow!
Climate change is of course an issue, but people will either adapt or go extinct. And if humans go extinct, so be it 🤷‍♀️ the earth will reset and probably be better for it. In millions more years a human-like species might evolve again, or it might not!

Back to the point! Yes, very worrying for all of us, and for the next couple of generations.

Talking to my very elderly dad recently, he said we are totally unprepared for the next wave of migration, as people move north from the global south to escape the heat - the impact on food crops and water availability (so viability for humans) will be huge.

Lovely chat on a parenting forum. Well done smug child free on your high horses, you must be so satisfied with your foresight and intelligence ☺️

what a thinly veiled stealth smug thread

Oh hun it was a joke 🤣

YANBU. I'm in my 40s and have three teenagers. I had this thought the other day, and honestly had to abandon that line of thought as it upset me.

Surely bringing children into a burning world is the only thing "anti-children"?

Another one missing OPs point. Of course you think it was worth it, you got what you wanted. This is about your kids who will be dealing with the burning planet long after you've probably gone.

There have been a lot of these threads in the last few years, They each find a slightly different way of being anti children. The increase coincided with a certain board being campaigned for and provided. Many posters there are lovely, but I pity people who make not having children their whole identity.

The end of the world is nigh indeed 😄. There’s always been something to doom monger about. I used to really worry I don’t now.

Just enjoy life while you can. Love
having our two now teens and wouldn’t be without them. If it all goes
to hell it will still have been bloody worth it! We will sit round the table and hold hands like the end of the meteorite film
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If it is a problem, then most governments are actively pushing towards it. The new data centres popping up everywhere pushing the electricity prices up for everyone. At least Jane or John can discuss their latest emotive crisis with ChatGBT.

The Government’s are allowing Europe to be flooded with mass immigration.

Russia, Ukraine, America, Israel and Iran dropping bombs, 10,000’s of dead bodies stacked in rivers, lakes and dug holes all over Sudan and the Congo pollution.

Rubbish companies in business for money. One company in Ireland was caught after burying rubbish, 5 times the size of the titanic buried in the soil.

Until the people who have the money and power decide to behave, rich flying all over the world, then the new rich the Molly Mae’s and Conor McGregor’s of the world in their private plane. it is pointless.

I recall as a child waiting on the nuke, chatting about it with friends.

Look we’ll all go together, if it’s slow I’ll usw carbon monoxide to take us out in our sleep. 😴

We have all known about climate change for many many years. If people chose to have children knowing about it that is their decision so no good moaning about it now.

Me and DH decided over 40 years ago not to have children with climate change being one of the reasons why we thought having children was not a good idea.

Now in our 70's we are so glad we made that decision and don't have to worry about our children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren etc having a shit future

@frozendaisyOh well, so long as you’re alright and they care for you when you’re elderly, who cares about the kids.

Selfish beggar.

The wonderful thing about living things is, that they either adjust, evolve or die out. In the meantime they are busy procreating. This will continue until we have a similar atmosphere on Earth as Mars has - full of carbondioxide.
On that note, Happy Saturday!

@RainNowPleaseplease post a link to the report . I’d be very interested to read it.

How long is the payback period on your solar panels? I remember when my parents first got them, they estimated 25 years.

Sorry I didn't word that bit well...people like me will say 76 was worse...but thats not a reason to ignore the weather now and government should move away from banging on about net zero, which is actually pointless given what the rest of thf world is doing and push money saving

It’s good that the harvest is in early this year. Makes a change from it being ruined by too much rain.

That aside, yes summers are getting hotter and winters wetter. We need to learn to adapt and become more resilient rather just flap about it.

Raise your kids to love life, be resourceful and practical. It’s not so long ago we were all like this. 100-150 years or so. Modern life has made us soft ( including me) but if life becomes tough again, humans will survive if they know how to.