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AIBU to worry about how I'll manage financially when I'm older?

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ShiteWithSugar · 17/07/2026 13:48

And to be absolutely terrified?

I'm 56. Haven't worked since DS was born in 2000. Originally the plan was to go back part time when he went to school then more hours as he got older. Unfortunately I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis 25 years ago which put the kybosh on that plan. DH has been the breadwinner and is on an okay wage (about £30k) but not enough to pay into a workplace pension or anything. We don't have any savings to speak of (about £2k for emergencies).

I have tried to find very flexible, part time work for years but it's absolutely impossible with no references etc and knowing I'll need time off sick several times a month when my symptoms are at their worst and/or the side effects from the drugs I take are particularly bad. I did have a job briefly (a few weeks) in a shop in 2011 but they let me go when I couldn't stand behind the counter and was off sick for a week, which I completely understand even though it was heartbreaking. I have applied for PIP but was turned down. I did not reapply because it was so dehumanising and stressful and we could manage on DH's salary just about.

What will happen when I/we reach pension age? DH is five years younger than me if that makes any difference. I'm so terrified of getting older that sometimes I think it would be better if I didn't. No money and health that is already declining makes for just such a bleak prospect. I think of the retirement my parents had - little UK breaks, days out, the occasional treat for DS, not well off by any means but comfortable and happy - and think what the future holds for me in comparison and it's so frightening. I've never been on holiday in my life and we have never been able to afford driving lessons let alone a car!

AIBU to be terrified of the future?

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MagicMorning942 · 19/07/2026 08:44

The current full UK state pension is approx £12k, so 1k a month

If you rent you would get this paid

If you dont get the full pension, you can apply for Pension credit, which comes with some extras like free TV licence & some other discounts

If you claim PIP that will continue or you can claim attendance allowance

Free bus pass

Discounts on various other things

ifonly4 · 19/07/2026 08:40

Use this time. Like others have said, give PIP ago again. Also, doublecheck there really are no benefits you're entitled to.

Up until retirement, could DH do another job? Also, even though he retires from working fulltime - he might be able to continue working a few hours a week for extra. Admittedly, mine was younger, but he's done a couple of bar jobs over the years - one was the same time every week, the other was flexible each week and worked around his shifts. If you can live on what you've already got, then it could be saved. Also, one you get your pension, that could be saved.

Ilikewinter · 19/07/2026 08:26

HumberSquid · 17/07/2026 14:12

Terrified? You live in a country which will ensure you have a roof over your head, food on your plate and free healthcare. If you pay your NI contributions you can get state pension too, if not you'll get a range of other benefits. If you can't afford social care, so w will be provided for you. And all this will happen without you working. So yes, YABU.

I agree, the OP has secured housing and will be entitled to a raft of benefits.

fundamentallyauthentic · 19/07/2026 08:19

Mumsgirls · 19/07/2026 00:20

Be careful of advising this.
Husband could pay out to get a very modest pension and it could just be enough to make him lose a host of other benefits. So taking your advice could cost them dear

If her husband was in his 60’s I would agree but he’s 51 and potentially has a lot of time to build up an OK pension plot. Additionally none of us know what the future holds so I don’t think anyone in their 50s or younger should rely on Pension Credit being around when they’re pensioners, or it may be around then but eligibility will be tougher than what it is now.

pastadish · 19/07/2026 08:17

TigerRag · 17/07/2026 16:35

PIP doesn't give NI credits

PPs suggesting doing pip form on your worst days - are you aware that's actually fraudulent to write worst days as if they're how you are most of the time?

You don’t understand chronic and debilitating conditions. People with conditions such as RA tend to not have a couple of really bad days then the rest are perfectly normal, feel great full of life, no pain or tiredness just like a ‘normal’ person. It’s days which have pain and tiredness and can’t do a lot just better than the worst day.

My dd has a chronic illness, on her worst days she is bedridden and sleeps around the clock.
On her better days she can get up but her capabilities look nothing like a normal life, it’s just better than her worst day.
And that ‘good’ day where she can do more has repercussions where she will be in bed for days if she does too much.

It’s easy to think that someone having a good day feels just like you do on a normal day therefore their pip claim is fraudulent but good days for a person with a chronic illness is probably like you feeling unwell with a virus but you can still get up and make a cup of tea or brush your teeth or make a sandwich but you’re not fit for much else as you feel like shit

ClaredeBear · 19/07/2026 07:59

cestlavielife · 17/07/2026 14:26

You need advice on pip see someone then make a new claim eg chairiy for your condition or CAB or Personal Independence Payment (PIP) | Disability Rights UK https://share.google/oLkqJLgaHwPaTzX6l

Check you have NI credits for all years claiming cb

Check again UC entitlement

Giving up pension contribs was not a goid long term strategy. Dh should get back on paying pension. Ideally you pay your own too

Get full financial advice from CAB advisor you can pay in 2880 a year and govt contributes top up to make it3600

Dont wait. Get proper advice.

Yes, this I the correct course of action. OP, you need a full benefit check and someone to help you with your PIP application (which you do need to make, even though it’s a bit dispiriting). I’m sure you’re not receiving everything you’re entitled to but you do need to be proactive about this. I also wonder if there’s some kind of online work you could be doing, perhaps selling on eBay, etc.

Burritoplease · 19/07/2026 07:48

ShiteWithSugar · 17/07/2026 14:16

We're not entitled to UC because DH works full time. DS is 25 and has left home so no CB.

I would apply for PIP again but they told me I wasn't eligible last time because I said I was able to wash my own hair sometimes and cook a meal a few days a week and could go to the supermarket sometimes. But of course RA means that some days I can't do any of these things or even get out of bed. I take two drugs for it which also make me very ill, some days I can barely leave the bathroom the day after let alone the house. But then I have good days where I can go for a walk (sometimes even without my sticks) in the park and make dinner and it seems as if these were what the pip assessor concentrated on. I'm scared that if I apply the will think I'm being fraudulent because there are days which are not quite as bad as others.

When you do a Pop application you are meant to answer the questions with your worst day possible in mind.

TigerRag · 19/07/2026 07:47

monkeysox · 19/07/2026 00:09

Telling them what you are like on your worst days is exactly what you must do.

It's fraud to only mention bad days

category12 · 19/07/2026 07:35

monkeysox · 19/07/2026 00:09

Telling them what you are like on your worst days is exactly what you must do.

OP, get some advice & support with filling out the application from Citizens Advice (or similar service).

Then you won't have to feel worried about being "fraudulent" and will be wording it the right way for best chance of getting it.

You can't work, you deserve the help.

ThisHazelPeer · 19/07/2026 07:18

I live in Stoke-on-Trent and the majority of people here earn a full time wage of 30k or less and don't qualify for any top ups from the state.

BooneyBeautiful · 19/07/2026 04:30

ShiteWithSugar · 17/07/2026 14:20

This is all really helpful, thank you.

I have about 8 years of contributions from work as a lot of the work I did when I was younger was casual or part time.

I didn't know until today that pip counts towards contributions. I dread having to apply for it again but maybe I need to.

No, a PIP award doesn't count towards NI contributions. Only an out-of-work benefit will do that.

Therescathairinmybath · 19/07/2026 00:59

Have a look at the benefits and work website for advice about pip. You should definitely try applying again. I know it’s a humiliating process, but it will make a big difference financially so it’s worth doing. I have a different type of inflammatory arthritis to RA so I understand how tough it is.

You have to send loads of evidence and explanations of how unwell you are on your worst days. During my face to face assessment I told the assessor I was in pain and pointed to where it hurt. He was also treated to a view of my wonky toes when I said I couldn’t get my shoes on that day and was wearing slippers instead of shoes.

Mumsgirls · 19/07/2026 00:20

Cars4Gov · 17/07/2026 13:56

First thing to do is check your state pension entitlement. It's easy to do from Gov website.

Your husband should be paying into his pension as any top up income will help in retirement. Has he got the ability to earn more as 30k isn't a great salary for full time work.

Be careful of advising this.
Husband could pay out to get a very modest pension and it could just be enough to make him lose a host of other benefits. So taking your advice could cost them dear

monkeysox · 19/07/2026 00:09

ShiteWithSugar · 17/07/2026 17:22

Thank you everyone for your helpful posts. I will think about applying for PIP again but as a PP said telling them how I am on my worst days is fraudulent so I'm not sure if I will get it, or if I should apply at all. I have emailed NRAS this afternoon to ask for advice.

To posters saying I have family and friends - I have DH and DS and thats it, and DS lives 250 miles away so I do not see him often. Me and DH have no friends or family between us but we muddle along quite happily, although I do feel lonely and isolated a lot. So nobody to help as I/we get older.

I have applied for hundreds of jobs but I haven't had one response. I used to work as a nanny but obviously can't do that now. The thing is I know I would be unable to work on the two days after I take my medication or when I'm really unwell, which with RA is completely unpredictable. I can be relatively fine in the morning and in severe pain by the evening. It also takes me up to a couple of hours to 'get going' in the morning because of pain/stiffness. There are so many symptoms with this disease - painful dry eyes, crippling fatigue, brain fog, but worst of all the pain. I take tramadol or codeine every day for it which also makes me a bit dozy especially on bad days when I need a full dose every four hours. I hate this disease with such a passion and wish I could just the normal and work and have purpose and be able to save for the future.

Sorry for moaning. But thank you all for your helpful replies, I really appreciate them all.

Telling them what you are like on your worst days is exactly what you must do.

dreamiesformolly · 18/07/2026 23:51

PurpleSky300 · 18/07/2026 23:05

I would be scared too - you have been on the breadline for decades. I don't know how you have survived so long on one income that is barely above minimum wage, with nothing left for savings or holidays or anything that might help your son, and let that continue until the age of 56. I'm sorry OP but what a mess. You both should have tried to do better for the sake of your son.

‘Tried to do better’? Did you miss the whole paragraph or so where OP talked about her rheumatoid arthritis? Do you know anything about the condition or how incapacitating it can be?

Your post contains literally nothing constructive or helpful to OP. Why did you even bother posting?

XenoBitch · 18/07/2026 23:50

PurpleSky300 · 18/07/2026 23:05

I would be scared too - you have been on the breadline for decades. I don't know how you have survived so long on one income that is barely above minimum wage, with nothing left for savings or holidays or anything that might help your son, and let that continue until the age of 56. I'm sorry OP but what a mess. You both should have tried to do better for the sake of your son.

Why come on here to put the boot in?

ToffeeCrabApple · 18/07/2026 23:23

Runsaway · 17/07/2026 18:11

That’s irrelevant, as the average is seriously inflated by a few very high earners at the top.

Even the median at ops husbands age is £42k. Thats £12k more a year, even after tax & NI its £700 quid more a month, enough for £200 each in a pension (plus theyd get tax relief so its worth more) and £300 extra for a more comfortable life. Its really important that people understand if their pay is low & that they might do better to look for different work to improve it.

PurpleSky300 · 18/07/2026 23:05

I would be scared too - you have been on the breadline for decades. I don't know how you have survived so long on one income that is barely above minimum wage, with nothing left for savings or holidays or anything that might help your son, and let that continue until the age of 56. I'm sorry OP but what a mess. You both should have tried to do better for the sake of your son.

kittens876 · 18/07/2026 23:04

Just so you know, PIP rules are that if you can’t do something reliably, safely or it takes you twice as long to do something,( eg, cooking, bathing etc) for more than 50% of the week, for pip purposes you are not able to do it and should get full points. Please read up on the pip rules. You may be surprised and find you do in fact qualify xxx

Itsjustmethatsall · 18/07/2026 23:01

ShiteWithSugar · 17/07/2026 14:16

We're not entitled to UC because DH works full time. DS is 25 and has left home so no CB.

I would apply for PIP again but they told me I wasn't eligible last time because I said I was able to wash my own hair sometimes and cook a meal a few days a week and could go to the supermarket sometimes. But of course RA means that some days I can't do any of these things or even get out of bed. I take two drugs for it which also make me very ill, some days I can barely leave the bathroom the day after let alone the house. But then I have good days where I can go for a walk (sometimes even without my sticks) in the park and make dinner and it seems as if these were what the pip assessor concentrated on. I'm scared that if I apply the will think I'm being fraudulent because there are days which are not quite as bad as others.

You definitely need to reapply for PIP. If you're getting it before pension age, it continues afterwards. You're entitled to it.
However, and this will sound off, and no doubt I'll get a roasting for it, BUT, the PIP examiners will find any way they can to not allow it. It's wrong, but there you go. RA is awful, that's for sure. You MUST tell them what you're like on your worst days. It's no good telling them that you can do this and that on a good day, because they'll immediately take that as you can do it, full stop. It's not lying. You simply cannot guarantee to do the stuff they said you could, safely, repeatedly and reliably. Please get advice - there are PIP groups on Facebook.
I know it's demeaning, almost as if you're begging, but remember, you are entitled to that help. Also, if you need extra things to help around the house such as something to help open jars, etc, or even, if things get really bad, walking aids. None of these things come cheap, and PIP can be a godsend. I wish you strength, and good luck.

NewNameNewMeNow · 18/07/2026 21:05

I'm assuming you are probably on methotrexate? Changing to injections instead of tablets may help with the side effects. You really need to let your rheumatologist know how much you are suffering. There are so many new treatments nowadays that are really life changing. I work full time with RA & always have. It is definitely possible with the correct treatment & support. You should ask about biologics - these have been incredible for me. Good luck!

Ponoka7 · 18/07/2026 19:58

We've gone into shared ownership apartments. One side is rented. They are warm and the utility bills are low. If they are/become available in the future, I'd seriously think about moving. The HA will help with the transfer. So in terms if housing costs, that would be a help.
I'd reapply for PIP, as said. Take away rent and other things tbh you aren't necessarily going to be on much less than you are now. Your DS is going to be a full adult. Then there's attendance allowance.

mugglewump · 18/07/2026 19:35

I would look at paying voluntary NI contributions - it's a much lower rate than people in work pay and it might help you get a full state pension.

Chewbecca · 18/07/2026 19:34

I think you need to reapply for benefits and continue to look for work that suits you, flexible, home based perhaps? Then DH opts back into pension asap, benefitting from tax relief and employer contributions.
My main point though is that you are used to living on a low income so if you can get 2 x full new SP, you won't be too uncomfortable. If you can top up with savings from the next 10 years, you should be ok.