AIBU to think RSE lessons should be separated by sex not gender identity?

YADNBU. That poor boy is being set up for a horrific shock come puberty. Teachers lying to him now will make it worse.

My daughter in Year 4 says they didn't split up boys and girls. I would have thought that it should be the same at all schools.

My DS is in year 7. They were separated for some things, which DS said made sense to him. Some of the girls started their periods aged 10 and whilst they clearly talked that with the boys, not all of them felt comfortable discussing periods etc in front of boys.

Is it common to separate for this now? When I was in year 4 our whole class had this session together

The purpose of the lesson is to educate children about the physical and emotional changes that occur during puberty. As a biological boy, he will experience changes specific to the male body, and it is important that he understands what those changes are and why they happen. I feel the school is failing him if he is not being given that information. If the intention is to teach mixed classes, then perhaps the curriculum should cover both male and female puberty so that all pupils receive a complete understanding of the changes that take place during adolescence.

All the more reason this child should be in the boys’ group. Ridiculous (and somewhat cruel) decision by the parents and/or school to put him in the girls group to learn about the periods he’ll never have.

Everything that is thought necessary to split by girls/boys men/women, should always be done on biological sex not 'gender identity'.
The only purpose for the separation arises from biological differences.
A boy who would much rather be a girl is a boy and should be with the other boys to learn the things pertaining to his biology.

This is a ridiculous situation, not just for the girls whose safeguarding and dignity are being undermined, but also for the boy in question.

So he's going to learn about the impacts of puberty that he isn't going to go through, but miss the class that covers what will actually happen to him? That's appalling.

Who's making these decisions? How did we wind up prioritising neglect and stupidity?

I’d be complaining about the separation in the first place. All kids should hear everything. Splitting them just reinforces stigma and shame around periods

At year 4 - age 9 - the school should not be socially transitioning him. I thought this went against DfE advice on gender questioning children. Children being the operative word. Who need to be protected from harmful batshit ideology.

The kid’s a bloke not matter how much fluffy fairy skirts or cuddly bunnies he has.

It is discriminatory.

But he is a he

Regardless of what people think they are your biological sex doesn’t change.

If you are born male, it doesn’t matter how convinced you are you are a woman it won’t stop you from getting prostate cancer and vice versa. Unless you have medical intervention it won’t stop you from getting ovarian or cervical cancer

To put a male in a group to discuss female biology which is never going to apply to him is doing him a huge disservice. He has missed out on a lesson on how to look after the body he has. He is never going to get the biological female body they were discussing

Also don’t use Cis. It is an unnecessary and offensive

I would ask the school why the boys get the benefit of a single sex session but not the girls. State that it feels discriminatory against the girls.

He is a boy. He!

Joining in with the pretence is adding to this poor boys confusion. The more people that tell him he is a boy, but that he can present how he likes, the better. Social transition can be hard for children to go back on.

So he’ll be told that he will be getting his period soon….lol.

I feel sorry for the boy at the moment, he is so young and being sold this lie. I feel sorry for his classmates being told to go along with a lie. I feel sorry for the girls who may want to ask a question about periods but don’t want to in front of a boy. He is also missing vital info about male puberty which he will experience.

The issues as the boy gets older become more serious. A man potentially in women’s spaces, he may choose to take hormones and fuck up his body, women feeling pressured to say men are women or risk being called a bigot.

Madness.

I would complain to the school OP.

I think you should stop pretending that just because a boy wants to wear a dress and have long hair that makes him a girl, tbh. He can prefer being called whatever he wants, it doesn’t alter the fact he will always be a male.

😂😂😂

oh the satire on here gets better by the day!

fortunately, considering the articulate and sensible nature of the OPs question, the daughter is probably far from being an idiot and will be perfectly aware that the other child is a boy who just happens to like long hair and dresses - neither of which makes him a her.

trans and non-binary people are biologically the same as anyone else of the biological sex into which they were born.

technically there is no such thing as a trans person (you can't transition - not biologically possible), and no such thing as a non-binary person (2 sexes = binary, boy or girl!)

there is no such thing as cis anything - just boys and girls / men and women - it really couldn't be much simpler and a child in year 4 will be very well aware of those undisputable facts...

This.

I think you should stop referring to those of us who are aware of our own sex as "cis" as most of us do not want to be referred to in that way. There are men and women. Some men like to pretend to be women and some women like to pretend to be men. The school were in the wrong.

That's ridiculous, so this lad has now missed the talk about his own puberty?
I agree- they either have the talk about both sexes all together, or they are separated by sex- not gender.

He’s a boy, he should stay with the boys. Safeguarding is everyone’s business.

Don’t be ridiculous! All females are biologically the same as are all males.
Girls should be allowed to discuss a girls only physical process outwith the presence of boys, and vice versa. That doesn’t mean that periods shouldn’t be discussed with boys at all though.
Calling something ‘bigotry’ just because it uses facts not feelings is just plain ignorant.