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AIBU to think RSE lessons should be separated by sex not gender identity?

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Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 11:49

My daughter's in Year 4 and had her first proper RSE lesson this week, covering puberty: body changes, periods etc. Girls and boys were separated apart from one boy who wears his hair long, dresses in what most people would view as "girls' clothes" and who likes to be referred to by female pronouns.
Besides the blatant ridiculousness of it- the fact that this child is never going to go through female puberty, I'm uncomfortable with the fact that girls are already being given the message that anyone can self identify into girlhood/womanhood and I worry about the precedent that this sets.
What complicates matters is that my child is really good friends with this boy and I'm friendly with his parents, although not super close, not enough to feel comfortable broaching the subject with them.
I've no problem with them being friends, my worry is that the school is reinforcing a potentially dangerous falsehood: that anyone who says they are the opposite sex, is.
Myself and my husband have always talked to our daughter about how there's more to being a girl than having long hair and liking pink or unicorns and how people can dress how they want and like whatever they like, but somebody's biological sex doesn't change.
As long as we're consistently giving this message is that enough or do I raise my concerns with the school?
Am I being unreasonable to be concerned about this?

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WeaselCheeks · 17/07/2026 16:51

I agree with others when they say that they shouldn't be separated. Learning about biology is important, and maybe if more stuff wasn't segregated in schools, we wouldn't end up with men who think that we can hold in our periods like wee, or that we piss out of our vaginas.

I understand the stuff about kids not feeling comfortable asking questions in front of the other sex though, and what's going on at the OP's school is wrong - if you are going to segregate, then it does need to be by sex.

A boy identifying as a girl is never going to go through female puberty, but, with restrictions on puberty blockers, they are going to start going through male puberty. They're never going to have to worry about periods, or smear tests, but they are going to need to know about their own biology. It's doing a massive disservice to the boy.

And obviously it's doing a massive disservice to every single girl. If the entire point of segregating is so that they feel comfortable asking questions, doesn't having a boy in there - even one identifying as a girl - completely tender that moot? Isn't it possible that, for some girls, having a bit dressed as a girl in a lesson about female biology going to make them feel even more awkward?

BMW58 · 17/07/2026 16:49

Well by putting him in with real girls surely he's going to have an awful revelation that the things being discussed - menstruation etc - won't happen to him!
That's not going to help his mental health is it!

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 17/07/2026 16:46

Of course YANBU.
What the law says, is not necessarily what happens.

Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 16:44

A quick Google should hopefully satisfy those who think I've fabricated this entire scenario...

AIBU to think RSE lessons should be separated by sex not gender identity?
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MagpiePi · 17/07/2026 16:44

HermioneWeasley · 17/07/2026 16:26

Of course if they are being separated it should be by sex- they are learning what female or male puberty is, it’s to do with our sexed bodies.

the school are collaborating in abusing this boy IMO by going along with the harmful lie that he is a girl. He is not and never will be, and unless he’s on the puberty blockers trial he’ll be going through a male puberty which he needs to know about.

I would speak to the school and complain that the girls have experienced less favourable treatment as the boys got single sex education and a same sex environment to ask questions and they did not.

Even if he was on puberty blockers he would still never go through a female puberty.

Pallisers · 17/07/2026 16:41

When my kids did this the whole class had sessions together where they covered both male and female puberty and then the group was separated by sex for an additional session to ask question etc.

I feel sorry for that kid - will he expect to get a period? I hope his parents are explaining the physical reality to him.

OP, I would just make sure your child knows the biological reality and your family's position. Although (if things continue as they are) prepare for being called wrong and a bigot when they reach teenage years.

Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 16:40

TeenLifeMum · 17/07/2026 16:38

I’m doubting this as they don’t separate them until year 6.

I've had a few comments of this nature and again all I can say is it's true, it's happened. There's nothing much I can do to prove it but it's absolutely not made up.

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ThisOneLife · 17/07/2026 16:40

Sux2buthen · 17/07/2026 11:50

Unreasonable to separate them at all for any of it

Both groups will be inhibited from asking questions if the other group is present. These questions are important and not knowing the answers is far from ideal.

TeenLifeMum · 17/07/2026 16:38

I’m doubting this as they don’t separate them until year 6.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/07/2026 16:38

Wingingit73 · 17/07/2026 15:53

What does it matter to you? They're just being inclusive. Frankly i think they should all hear ever together.

Why is it you think males should be included in something that is female only?

Sartre · 17/07/2026 16:38

I’m surprised they still choose to separate boys and girls at all. I think it’s important for both sexes to understand what happens in the opposite sex’s body too.

Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 16:36

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Unnecessarily personal but okay.

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Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 16:36

Wingingit73 · 17/07/2026 15:53

What does it matter to you? They're just being inclusive. Frankly i think they should all hear ever together.

I outlined the reasons it matters to me in my opening post.

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Ljcrow · 17/07/2026 16:34

Loopyloopsy · 17/07/2026 15:31

My child is the same age and also recently had those pshe lessons, and the children weren't separated for them. So I'm doubting whether this is even true as seems an outdated thing to separate the children anyway.

All I can say to that is that it's 100% true and I've no hidden agenda other than a genuine niggling worry for the reasons I've stated and a dilemma as to whether I raise it with the school or let it lie. I won't give you the name of the school for obvious reasons but different trusts and schools have different approaches to how they teach these things I guess. 🤷‍♀️

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HermioneWeasley · 17/07/2026 16:26

Of course if they are being separated it should be by sex- they are learning what female or male puberty is, it’s to do with our sexed bodies.

the school are collaborating in abusing this boy IMO by going along with the harmful lie that he is a girl. He is not and never will be, and unless he’s on the puberty blockers trial he’ll be going through a male puberty which he needs to know about.

I would speak to the school and complain that the girls have experienced less favourable treatment as the boys got single sex education and a same sex environment to ask questions and they did not.

saveforthat · 17/07/2026 16:04

BloodandGlitter · 17/07/2026 15:45

The irony of telling someone not to use a certain word as you don't want to be identified like that and refusing to use the preffered pronouns of trans people is outstanding.

Cis is not a pronoun it's an unnecessary addition. Man or Woman is sufficient.

Wingingit73 · 17/07/2026 15:54

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Wingingit73 · 17/07/2026 15:53

What does it matter to you? They're just being inclusive. Frankly i think they should all hear ever together.

BloodandGlitter · 17/07/2026 15:45

saveforthat · 17/07/2026 12:37

I think you should stop referring to those of us who are aware of our own sex as "cis" as most of us do not want to be referred to in that way. There are men and women. Some men like to pretend to be women and some women like to pretend to be men. The school were in the wrong.

The irony of telling someone not to use a certain word as you don't want to be identified like that and refusing to use the preffered pronouns of trans people is outstanding.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 17/07/2026 15:35

I hope the girls lesson includes information about boys too, or else this child is going to be in for a big shock!

ImthatBoleyngirl · 17/07/2026 15:32

Pistachiocake · 17/07/2026 15:19

Should all be together-we criticise men for not knowing about periods, but they need to be taught. Even if they're gay (and many people don't come out until they're older), they need to understand women's bodies for their daughters/sisters/mums/friends. Everyt ime you hear something stupid, like why ca't she hold her period in, why should being pregnant be tiring, you know they need better educating.
We're just starting to see books/articles about men educating themselves about menopause to support their wives-but I'm a woman who was never taught about that, anywhere I lived. There's not enough education, but it's not just women who need to know-we all live in one society and we all should understand things.

Boys can be taught about it, just separately.

Loopyloopsy · 17/07/2026 15:31

My child is the same age and also recently had those pshe lessons, and the children weren't separated for them. So I'm doubting whether this is even true as seems an outdated thing to separate the children anyway.

ImthatBoleyngirl · 17/07/2026 15:31

ToWhitToWhoo · 17/07/2026 12:28

I don't think they should be separated at all. It's important that all children learn the basics with regard to both sexes.

Yes both sexes should learn about it, but I know for a fact that my DD would hate to have boys in the same class whilst they do it. They should be separate.

LlynTegid · 17/07/2026 15:28

Pistachiocake · 17/07/2026 15:19

Should all be together-we criticise men for not knowing about periods, but they need to be taught. Even if they're gay (and many people don't come out until they're older), they need to understand women's bodies for their daughters/sisters/mums/friends. Everyt ime you hear something stupid, like why ca't she hold her period in, why should being pregnant be tiring, you know they need better educating.
We're just starting to see books/articles about men educating themselves about menopause to support their wives-but I'm a woman who was never taught about that, anywhere I lived. There's not enough education, but it's not just women who need to know-we all live in one society and we all should understand things.

I am not sure about all together, but agree everyone should be taught about periods and the menopause.

As for the biological boy who wants to use the pronoun she, one response could be only to call everyone by name only, and not use pronouns.

Pistachiocake · 17/07/2026 15:19

Should all be together-we criticise men for not knowing about periods, but they need to be taught. Even if they're gay (and many people don't come out until they're older), they need to understand women's bodies for their daughters/sisters/mums/friends. Everyt ime you hear something stupid, like why ca't she hold her period in, why should being pregnant be tiring, you know they need better educating.
We're just starting to see books/articles about men educating themselves about menopause to support their wives-but I'm a woman who was never taught about that, anywhere I lived. There's not enough education, but it's not just women who need to know-we all live in one society and we all should understand things.