Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Bring back the death penalty in this case

163 replies

ThisWiseRobin · 17/07/2026 11:04

AIBU to wish for the death penalty. How a mother can kill her baby with a hairdryer.
I read this to my husband who asked me to stop and was crying.
I'm Christian and am taught that all but one sin is forgivable.
BUT Our Lord also said that to harm one little one , you are better to have a millstone tied around your neck and be thrown into the sea.
While some interpretations claim it means misleading them, I think it's much more than this.
Today I feel bereft of love for the human race.
Of course this monster will claim Domestic violence, drugs , mental health etc.
I hope, as there is no death penalty, that she spends the rest of her life begging to die.
Sorry right now, all I can say is "Father forgive them. For they know not what they do".....because right now I Can't.

OP posts:
caefe · 17/07/2026 15:22

JMSA · 17/07/2026 14:52

Shouldn’t an OP like this have a trigger warming, as it contains child abuse?

No, it’s implied in the title it’s not going to be a thread about baking cakes. Do people really need spoon fed this information?

ofcolitas · 17/07/2026 15:17

The death penalty doesn't really hurt the person you put to death. It hurts their family. Who are innocent.

However, I do think that people who have commited murder should be able to request euthanasia if they wish to.

ThaMiSgith · 17/07/2026 15:17

KnivesAndFawkes · 17/07/2026 13:18

@XDownwiththissortofthingX. Well you can crack on with thinking that some people aren’t evil and just suffering with poor mental health if you want to.

theres some mental gymnastics involved in trying to excuse these murderers. though. That repulsive pair who were shoving their penises in a baby’s throat…. Just a bit misunderstood were they and in need of some therapy?

Give over

Nobody is 'trying to excuse' them. Whatever gave you that idea?

Dontcallmescarface · 17/07/2026 15:14

What does the death penalty actually achieve? Does it deter murders, no, will it bring back the victim also no.

ThaMiSgith · 17/07/2026 15:14

I'm a Christian too and my faith teaches me that all life is sacred, and that we have no right to end it. So no, I won't use my faith as an excuse for retributive 'justice'.

In fact I don't think faith has any place in the justice system at all, and I say that as someone who goes to Mass every Sunday.

Pedant61 · 17/07/2026 15:10

Bringing emotion into any criminal case is just one of many reasons why the death penalty must never be reintroduced. How we might feel about a case is irrelevant. No civilised society should ever have capital punishment.

Gengha · 17/07/2026 15:10

Allseeingallknowing · 17/07/2026 14:55

Every case is equally horrific

I don’t agree and neither does the law or else everyone would get the same conviction and sentence. Of course the death of the child is equally sad but there can absolutely be different levels of culpability and guilt.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/07/2026 15:07

LadyTable · 17/07/2026 12:04

Never mind bringing back the death penalty.

How about bringing back the OP...

WHY did they remove the laugh emoji? WHY?!?!?

ChalkOutlines · 17/07/2026 15:07

That’s not how it works. You can’t pick and choose or introduce the death penalty for one case . Also why would YOU need to forgive anyone? Isn’t that up to your Lord to do? If you believe in him, you believe that this woman will be suitably punished for her actions… or not.

However , you seem to think you’re above all that and it’s all about you and your feelings.A blood thirsty Christian, how novel!

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/07/2026 15:06

Basing the justice system on one rando poster (who doesn't come back)'s interpretation of a work of fiction from thousands of years ago?

Sounds like a great idea. Why not?

emuloc · 17/07/2026 15:05

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/07/2026 13:44

Perfectly in keeping with what a rage-baiting, Right-wing troll-infested cesspit MN has become.

Yes. It is rather sickening.

LlynTegid · 17/07/2026 15:00

There would be people on a jury who would believe some sob story from her legal team, or who would never send someone to her death because of their opposition to the death penalty.

So life imprisonment is the alternative to a hung jury and possibly no conviction.

RedTagAlan · 17/07/2026 14:59

Perplexed20 · 17/07/2026 11:50

The states in the us have the death penalty have higher crime rates.

I do not agree with it in any circumstances. What would you do in the case of a miscarriage of justice? And you can't guarantee there would never be one.

Yes. And it makes sense that they do. Because someone committing a crime will have a "feel" if they have crossed the death penalty threshold. And when they do, they have totally nothing to lose.

After all, if you are going to be executed for one murder, what difference do more murders make ?

BEAchDays2 · 17/07/2026 14:57

Hard no on the death penalty. You cannot plan to kill a person, because they killed someone else.

However hard that is. You just can’t.

Allseeingallknowing · 17/07/2026 14:55

Gengha · 17/07/2026 13:58

It’s a horrible case but there have been much worse cases of child abuse than this one. Preston Davey being a recent example. Seems odd you’d think this was worse, given it wasnt even murder but culpable homicide.

Also, the death penalty is abhorrent.

YABU

Every case is equally horrific

JMSA · 17/07/2026 14:52

Shouldn’t an OP like this have a trigger warming, as it contains child abuse?

randomchap · 17/07/2026 14:49

DozyCrow · 17/07/2026 14:40

I thought you Christians were all about forgiveness, or have you not got to that chapter in the bible yet?

I don't think they've got the the ten commandments yet

asatelliteisnttoofarright · 17/07/2026 14:48

KrazyKatty · 17/07/2026 14:34

Another thread started by an unimaginative Yankee bible basher? 🤔

I strongly suspect this is the same OP who’s recently started a lot of threads on this topic

DozyCrow · 17/07/2026 14:40

I thought you Christians were all about forgiveness, or have you not got to that chapter in the bible yet?

KrazyKatty · 17/07/2026 14:34

Another thread started by an unimaginative Yankee bible basher? 🤔

allthiscarryon · 17/07/2026 14:32

Death penalties verdicts are political and often unjust. They solve nothing. They’re use disproportionately against minorities and the poorer people in society.
If Britain had the death penalty in the 70s 80s 90s there would be an awful Lot of dead Irish people, most of them innocent.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 17/07/2026 14:28

SaySomethingMan · 17/07/2026 14:10

Do you know that Psalm is about the people lamenting about their suffering and about the people who were oppressing them? I don’t understand your quote? Are you implying that The Bible says people who bash infants against rocks will be happy?

@ThisWiseRobin if you’re Christian, then surely you should be willing to forgive this person hoping they gain salvation? And leaving judgement only to God?

I know exactly what this psalm means. The last two verses are an exhortation to the Jewish people to enact vengeance against the children of the Babylonians - their oppressors.
I was simply pointing out that the Bible is rarely consistent in its teaching.

Mydogisagentleman · 17/07/2026 14:22

Capital punishment is wrong.
Not for any religious reasons, it's just wrong.
Civilised societies must never consider voting to reinstate it.
I don't believe it's presence would reduce crime in any way.

soddingspiderseason · 17/07/2026 14:18

The death penalty does not reduce murder rates, look at the US. So if it doesn’t deter, it would be to exact revenge on the woman for her actions. Which is a reasonable position, but for every 100 people who may deserve vengeance, there will be at least 1 wrongly convicted person, and the state therefore commits murder of an innocent.

Happyjoe · 17/07/2026 14:10

LadyTable · 17/07/2026 11:20

BUT Our Lord also said that to harm one little one , you are better to have a millstone tied around your neck and be thrown into the sea.

So why does 'your lord' put babies on earth just to suffer in pain from cancer and other horrible diseases only to die a few months later?

And you can't randomly apply the death sentence just because it may suit certain public outcries.

Edited

This is exactly why I hate religion. If there is a god he is a cruel bastard.