School refusing access to exam results

You come from a family of teachers and yet you’re asking about the importance of exams in KS1? Just ask one of your family members to look through her workbooks if you need a pointer.

Because parent A says ok you got 45 % and thats good, but how could you do better? Which I hope would be the case

Parent B says 45% thats rubbish and I want 60% next time. B is putting too much pressure on a 7 year old and may ruin her to to take exams

Parent C asks the school what was the median score for that exam. Why didn't she get an extra mark for nice writing because C is THAT Parent

So given you get feedback, parents evenings and the opportunity to speak to teachers why are you bothered about these exams?

Which in reality are part of her learning...learning how to do exams and that they are nothing to worry about

Have a think why they didn’t tell parents …

They do not want parents trying to get 7 year olds ‘revising’ for tests, or comparing their DCs’ results afterwards. I knew several
parents whose first response to receiving Y6 SATs results was to try to find out what other kids scored.

It’s odd that a teacher is asking your child to produce some work and then using that to assess what has been learned? Kindly, you are being unreasonable and sound a little bit overbearing. Assuming you are not a teacher yourself, the test papers themselves will be of little to no use and, to help your child progress, you would be best to allow them to play and enjoy their summer holiday. Encouraging reading/ reading to them, having conversations with them, taking them on walks or to interesting places will also help develop language skills; fostering a wide general knowledge will not only be an enjoyable way to help your child learn but is the best thing you can do as a parent to ensure educational success.

Imagine how much time it would take for the teachers to explain the scores etc, and what each child got wrong. You’ll have parents evening soon- you’ll be able to talk it through then.

Nope - I wish it was. Firsthand experience unfortunately!

Do you not have parents evening or end of term reports? These should be where you discuss strengths/ weaknesses and what if anything needs support at home.

Whilst you might feelm its wishy washy the results you were given "working towards, expected greater depth etc... is the terminology used on the SATS at the end of year 6.

I think lots of primary schools now use it as a way to express how children are doing.

Tests are limited towards expressing how a child is actually doing and don't give a while picture. The report written for my year 6 to be sent to his new secondary tells them far more about his strengths and weaknesses than his SATS results will.

If you are concerned about your child's learning ask for a meeting about the concerns don't demand end of year assessment results that in isolation may tell you very little.

I think you need to trust the professionalism of the teacher, especially when your child is so young. There are many ways for parents to try and direct what happens at school - who their child is sitting next to, how sanctions are applied for misdemeanours, what information is given or not given to parents in the case of a dispute with another child, the tone of voice used by a teacher when speaking to their child, the part their child is allocated in a school play, interventions over rules the child objects to.

As a former longstanding school governor, I've listened to all of these. Almost always, the response is that the parent needs to have faith in the school, and communicate that to the child. It's very frustrating for teachers, who work incredibly hard, to have parents telling them how they should be doing their job. If you don't trust your child's school to do the best by your child, you shouldn't be sending them there.

In Y9, my DD took issue with her form teacher making pupils remove their coats in Winter during registration. I told her that it was how the school did things, so that pupils wouldn't be cold when they went outside. I also told her that I thought the rule was a bit OTT but that the school would be chaotic if pupils were to pick and choose which rules tofollow and which to ignore.

The tests your child has just done are to assess where she is at the end of Key Stage 1. Schools tend to administer them internally since the KS1 complsory SAT was abolished. The results will inform your child's end of year report and parents' evenings in KS2, where the results will be placed in context. Raw scores would not be meaningful or useful, and they certainly won't help you support your child at home over the Summer holiday.

When I saw the post title, I thought that it concerned GCSEs or A Levels. Over their time
at school, children and young people sit many many tests and exams, but parents aren’t always told the results. They are a snap shot in time but are not are reliable measure of ability, especially a child in KS1.

Look through her books and you will be able to see where she has found things more challenging. Much more useful than a number that you will most likely not understand.

You are entitled to any information they hold on your child - so you can ask for her educational record etc, but you’ll probably have to wait until September now as they have up to 15 days (I think?) to provide it.

I don’t see why you can’t know the exact scores she achieved, they know so why shouldn’t you? You’re her parent 😅

I personally think it’s worth knowing, as (in my experience anyway!) they’re at expected for everything and then BAM year 3 they’re suddenly just below for subjects after being AT for Reception , Yr1 and Y2.
At the school my children attend, they do send them home with the tests once they’ve been marked so hopefully in year 3 you’ll get to see the scores without needing to ask.

I don’t think it’s weird that you want to know.

My daughter's school is the same. Ks1 sats. What is weird is they did 'mock' sats and at parents evening reported the results to me. But we have finished school and apparently the sats were for internal use.
I'm a teacher and I would tell a parent their child's assessment results. Particularly when the children are aware they've been tested - that only seems fair.

I do understand how you feel, we all like to know our kids are doing well! But if they tell you she got 80 per cent in her maths paper, how will that help you to ‘support her learning at home?’ What will it change? You will support her the same at home either way.
These are internal assessments, most schools do them every term to see whether the kids are working at the expected level and find any gaps. Let them get on with it!

Honestly don’t blame the school for not sending them home. I know of parents who have changed their child’s incorrect answers to the correct ones when papers were sent home and then told the teacher they’ve been incorrectly marked because they weren’t happy with the scores.

This is normal for year 2 reporting and meeting expectations and exceeding you have no issues. Don’t worry - teacher would speak to you if there are issues!!! Remember they are only 7.

The reason is so that parents don’t make a fuss and get the kids worried about tests. It’s a really good strategy in the early years.

The phonics screening, Y4 MTC and Y6 SATs are legally reportable. No other assessments are

You are sounding like you have a rather odd outlook on this yourself. They won't be official exams because, if taken, those are in May in y2. They will be taking these kind of assessments regularly throughout the year. Feel sorry for the teachers.

This!
The assessments will inform teacher assessment. Your child is likely to do a full set of tests two or three times a year every year. H

Not once in 16 years have I had a parent demand to see results. Some I've had polite conversations about.

We have had this too. DS’ school do KS1 SATS although they try not to make a big deal of them. We got the results of the ‘mock’ ones they did at parents evening and so I had assumed we’d get the results in the end of year report like we got the results from the phonics screening but nada. I would have been interested to know (as DS’ mock scores were extremely low) but I assume there were no issues when they did the proper ones based on the comments and rating in his end of year report. It was a bit odd though.

she's in year 2...honestly, relax