AIBU to feel uncomfortable about anti-English vibes from family?

Yes, thank goodness. I'll be supporting Spain in the final

Maybe they consider the falklands to be an instance of British anti argentinian sentiment and aggression? I don’t mean to be rude about it but I think if you look at history generally “the past isn’t dead, its not even past.” Countries remember and regret the loss of territory for hundreds of years let alone 40 or so.

That’s incorrect. The UN considers the FI to be a territory with unresolved sovereignty and calls on both the United Kingdom and Argentina to peacefully resolve the dispute.

Urgh – again, I say contested, brief and tenuous.

If British claim was uncontested, then it wouldn't be in disputed today by the UN – it is. The islands were claimed, settled, abandoned, and reoccupied by several European powers during the 18th century: France established the first permanent settlement in 1764, Britain established another settlement in 1765, Spain objected and expelled the British in 1770, then allowed them to return, Britain withdrew four years later and Spain settled again and withdrew in 1811.

The historical record is unusually messy and because international law doesn't contain a single rule that automatically resolves disputes like this.

It’s awful to bring this onto the sports pitch. It’s specifically prohibited and Argentina need a massive fine for doing it. This, and the Olympics, is supposed to represent friendship across all countries. Argentina have disgraced themselves. FIFA, quite predictably don’t act.

As for your relatives, I’d give them a wide berth for now

If we are getting into that territory the UN doesn't classify the Falklands as contested, it classes them as a non self governing territory.

And the UN recognises self determination. but like the slack jawed wet blanket that is the UN, it refuses to make a decision on the flakland islands clam to self determination.

Yes a hop skip and a jump away

On that basis I think we want France back.

That’s incorrect. The UN considers the FI to be a territory with unresolved sovereignty and calls on both the United Kingdom and Argentina to peacefully resolve the dispute.

The Falklands isn't contested by the UN, its protected by them under the UN's self determination rules.

Urgh – again, I say contested, brief and tenuous.

If British claim was uncontested, then it wouldn't be in disputed today by the UN – it is. The islands were claimed, settled, abandoned, and reoccupied by several European powers during the 18th century: France established the first permanent settlement in 1764, Britain established another settlement in 1765, Spain objected and expelled the British in 1770, then allowed them to return, Britain withdrew four years later and Spain settled again and withdrew in 1811.

The historical record is unusually messy and because international law doesn't contain a single rule that automatically resolves disputes like this.

Such a shame isn't it. Margaret Thatcher needed a bit of a boost to her career and decided to go and invade The Falklands which no-one in England knew where it was. Some thought it was in Scotland. Your relatives could show some consideration to you but people lose all reason over football. Sorry, I'm not much help.

Yes a hop skip and a jump away

On that basis I think we want France back.

The Falkland Islands are ca. 300 miles (nearly 500km) to the east of Argentina. Not thousands.

The Falklands are thousands of miles away from Argentina and the people living their are British by descent. And were when the war happened 40 years ago and since 1833.

Yes, I see this a lot amongst the trendy middle class. Everyone is encouraged to celebrate their culture except England. Really toxic mindset.

I think many people just assume Colonialism is just a British thing and all South / Latin Americans are indigenous native Americans. The fact Spanish and Portuguese are the two main languages on the continent is just random coincidence. They’re pretty much all settler states.

If if was that important it wouldn't be disputed, and it is.

To be fair, the Falklamds should be Argentinian. We can’t expect recent history to be completely ignored just because the reality of British colonialism makes some people uncomfortable.

England doesn’t get to treat the rest of the world as if it owns them and then complain when they are disliked.

@Notcominhomenow Yes, it seems that many people don't realize this. One of DD's best friends is Peruvian and her family is 100% ethnically Italian on both sides - their ancestors emigrated only a few generations ago so completely traceable.

I believe that Messi is ethnically European too. As you said upthread, modern Argentina is a young country, I'd even compare it to the US in terms of mass immigration. It's fascinating really.

Urgh – again, I say contested, brief and tenuous.

If British claim was uncontested, then it wouldn't be in disputed today by the UN – it is. The islands were claimed, settled, abandoned, and reoccupied by several European powers during the 18th century: France established the first permanent settlement in 1764, Britain established another settlement in 1765, Spain objected and expelled the British in 1770, then allowed them to return, Britain withdrew four years later and Spain settled again and withdrew in 1811.

The historical record is unusually messy and because international law doesn't contain a single rule that automatically resolves disputes like this.

🙄 Ok.

It’s a pendantic point but an important one. Alleging the Falkland was actually an Argentine posession before Britain would paint Argentina’s decision to invade and occupy the Falklands in a very different light.

This is a very US perspective. There are plenty of Latin Americans who are ethically completely white and recent descendants of Europeans.

Ds is being brought up bilingual with biannual trips to Argentina and plenty of cultural references around the home etc. We also have local friends of a similar background.

But I'm not going to tell him he's mixed race when he's not. On forms I put him as 'White European' or 'white other'. Makes no sense to put Latin American when there is no indigenous ancestry in the family.

Yes and by your own admission it was rather pedantic – so it's getting a bit much now.