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AIBU to attend a friend’s party when another friend was excluded?

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Ricecrispiesatsix · 16/07/2026 12:25

I have a group of friends from a mutual hobby. We live locally to each other so share lifts to hobby nights and over the years have become close.

Friend A (let’s call her Clara) is now devastated at friend B (let’s call her Steph) for not inviting her to her birthday party and is furious at me for going to the party.

For context, Clara is not someone who finds life easy. She’s been diagnosed with autism, adhd, borderline personality disorder and depression. She has a dysfunctional family and is basically no contact with her parents, struggles to hold down a job, and struggles to sleep/feed herself properly. She also has a heart of a gold, is one of my best friends, godmother to my daughter and when I broke my foot last year she was absolutely there for us in a very practical way. Still now she’ll often pick up our kids from school and have dinner with us (mutually beneficial as it gets her out the house and eating something nutritious!).

Clara went through a break up last year and for about a year things got really bad. She barely left her house, when she did come to hobby nights she’d cry outside the room while we took it in turns to sit with her. During these months, social occasions would often be dominated by her crying, sometimes until 1 or 2 in the morning. We’d have the same conversations with her over and over again, literally hundreds of times and it was quite emotionally draining.

She can also be quite argumentative, sees the world in black and white and has had a few autistic meltdowns when things haven’t gone her way. These look like her shouting, swearing and storming off. Often directed at Steph who has a very different approach to life than Clara. Steph is the kind of person who dances through life. She’s super bubbly and friendly, successful in her career, has loooads of friends and generally has rock solid boundaries around protecting her free time and her peace.

Steph is basically done. She values having a drama free life and has decided to only spend time with people who bring her joy. She has stopped inviting Clara to her events. Clara is understandably hurt and confused by this and feels excluded.

Last weekend was Steph’s birthday and she had a small party in her garden. On Friday Clara asked in the group chat whether anyone wanted to hang out at the weekend. None of us mentioned Steph’s party, we just gave the times we were free to do something with Clara. Clara then asked me directly “is Steph having a party for her birthday?” and I answered her truthfully. I figured it’d be worse if she found out afterwards that we were all there without her.

Clara spent the entire weekend and next 3 days at home crying. Which is probably an over reaction but Clara has lots of trauma from previous friendships that ended badly and I feel terrible. Should I not have gone to Steph’s party out of solidarity for Clara? And going forward can I be friends with both of them? Steph has clearly said she’s done with Clara’s drama, and Clara thinks Steph is a selfish fuck. I can see both sides. But now Clara is quitting the hobby that she loves because Steph is there and it’s all very sad and difficult.

Sorry it’s long. Hard to strike the right balance between brevity and not drip feeding!

OP posts:
britneyisfreebutnotokay · 16/07/2026 16:49

if I was Steph I wouldn’t have invited Clara either. Regardless of her her diagnosis’ she’s too much for Steph. Imagine expecting someone to put up with that on their birthday.

i have some of her diagnoses too and ive never behaved that way and if I did I’d excuse myself from the friendship from the shame alone.

nomas · 16/07/2026 16:49

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:38

She said that phase is over. Going through a tough time and being upset a lot on a temporary basis isn't a crime. She probably assumed her friends cared about her.

It’s not over because that is who Clara is, she won’t change. OP also says this is what’s happening:

She can also be quite argumentative, sees the world in black and white and has had a few autistic meltdowns when things haven’t gone her way. These look like her shouting, swearing and storming off. Often directed at Steph who has a very different approach to life than Clara.

Why should S be friends with C when S bears the brunt of C’s ‘shouting, swearing and storming off’?

Seelybee · 16/07/2026 16:46

@Ricecrispiesatsix you sound like a lovely person and clearly value the friendship with Clara.
However, her diagnoses don't give her a free pass to behave badly and expect everyone else to just accept it. If she isn't prepared to reflect on her behaviour (as you attempted with her) and understand how it makes other people feel she will go through life with these difficulties making and keeping friendships. Autistic people can and do learn to make adaptations to adjust their social engagement and avoid alienating people.
If she doesn't want to that's her choice but it's going to hold her back in all aspects of her life.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:45

usernumbernotfound · 16/07/2026 16:24

I disagree - by your rationale, this means Steph has to remain friends with her forever and has no ability or agency to make her own decisions about whom she spends time with.

Thats wrong.

This is also true:

EUPD is characterised in part by manipulation. She has been diagnosed with EUPD. She is more than capable of being manipulative AND autistic.

Edited

She wouldn't even have had to chat with Clara, she'd have been another guest at the party. I accept that others will have different opinions but I will die on the hill that excluding one member of a group is nasty and I would never do it, or associate with someone that did it, or allow my daughter to do it whilst I'm the one planning the parties. My stepdaughter's group of friends has done it and I've told her I think it's cruel and she should either tell the member of the group straight that they don't want to be friends rather than just not tell her when parties happen.

deeahgwitch · 16/07/2026 16:38

RockinCara · 16/07/2026 12:36

If Clara frequently ends up shouting or melting down at Steph it’s natural she will end up getting herself excluded from Steph’s world. I can understand her feeling upset at not being invited, but she really ought to understand why. I think you should tell her that she has upset Steph a few times and that’s why. And point out that you’re friends with them both, and won’t be falling out with anyone. Clara sounds like she has a lot of issues, but also some lessons to learn.

I agree.
I know someone like Clara and unfortunately she is her own worst enemy.
Another name for Borderline Personality Disorder is Emotionally Unstable Personality Disorder ( which is a vey apt name ).
It can be very difficult to cope with.
I can understand why Steph has boundaries.
Clara won’t listen to your advice and needs professional help OP.
Is she getting it ?

KrazyKatty · 16/07/2026 16:38

thisandthats · 16/07/2026 13:38

Autistic people literally don't have the ability to be manipulative. She's just socially clueless because that's basically what autism is.

Absolute bollocks! 😂😂

Yes, Autistic people can be socially clueless when it comes to reading other people when the person says one thing to them but actually means the complete opposite and simply hopes they get the hint. I find this beyond frustrating when on the receiving end.

However, we can still be hugely manipulative when we’re not getting our own way and that’s got zero to do with reading social cues. It’s just a different aspect of someone’s personality and being black and white about things often means we’re shit at compromise sometimes.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:38

nomas · 16/07/2026 16:28

You're conveniently forgetting this part of the OP - "During these months, social occasions would often be dominated by her crying, sometimes until 1 or 2 in the morning. We’d have the same conversations with her over and over again, literally hundreds of times and it was quite emotionally draining.’

You can't force adult women to be friends with soneone because autism.

She said that phase is over. Going through a tough time and being upset a lot on a temporary basis isn't a crime. She probably assumed her friends cared about her.

firstofallimadelight · 16/07/2026 16:37

Clara needs to find some coping mechanisms. I’m autistic and I would not have the patience to go over the same things whilst someone cries that sound debilitating. I would not put anyone through that.
you are not wrong and neither is Steph. I suspect Clara has never had a meltdown with you because you have never challenged her before.

nomas · 16/07/2026 16:28

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:06

Nobody asked her to sit up until 2am with Clara, and OP states that Clara was leaning on her friends for support after a break-up "for about a year" indicating it's over now.

She didn't just refuse to provide 1-2-1 support for Clara, she actively excluded Clara from an invite which included all the rest of the group.

You're conveniently forgetting this part of the OP - "During these months, social occasions would often be dominated by her crying, sometimes until 1 or 2 in the morning. We’d have the same conversations with her over and over again, literally hundreds of times and it was quite emotionally draining.’

You can't force adult women to be friends with soneone because autism.

NinjaCoffee · 16/07/2026 16:27

Jesus! This sounds like teenage drama! Has Steph actually spoke to Ciara and explained why she has stopped inviting her to social events? Or has she basically ghosted her? I can understand Steph, some friends just become hard work and especially in your late thirties you want to be done with the drama, however I think Steph needs to be honest about this, with Ciara! You did nothing wrong.

usernumbernotfound · 16/07/2026 16:24

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:13

Being close friends is one thing.

Leaving someone out is Regina George territory.

I'm absolutely not surprised that Clara is quitting the hobby- how humiliating for her to walk into a room knowing that she's the only one who wasn't wanted for being "too difficult" and that not one other person thought highly enough of her to say that they wouldn't be participating in it.

I disagree - by your rationale, this means Steph has to remain friends with her forever and has no ability or agency to make her own decisions about whom she spends time with.

Thats wrong.

This is also true:

EUPD is characterised in part by manipulation. She has been diagnosed with EUPD. She is more than capable of being manipulative AND autistic.

LilacReader · 16/07/2026 16:24

Dolcecof · 16/07/2026 12:30

Are you all in year 7?

Love these people that feel feel the need to mock rather than help!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 16/07/2026 16:22

CaramelCaramac · 16/07/2026 14:29

Is Clara meant to sense by some sort of intuition that she’s not invited?

Not getting an invitation is a clue, surely, @CaramelCaramac…

RoseField1 · 16/07/2026 16:22

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 15:59

An autistic meltdown is not manipulative behaviour.

EUPD is characterised in part by manipulation. She has been diagnosed with EUPD. She is more than capable of being manipulative AND autistic.

Imanautumn · 16/07/2026 16:21

Dolcecof · 16/07/2026 12:30

Are you all in year 7?

No one person has serious mental health issues were you not reading??

RoseField1 · 16/07/2026 16:20

thisandthats · 16/07/2026 15:26

Me. I am autistic.

Your sample size of one person means you're an authority to claim that autistic people aren't capable of manipulation?

PissedOffAutistic · 16/07/2026 16:20

thisandthats · 16/07/2026 15:26

Me. I am autistic.

I am autistic and can assure you that being autistic does not necessarily prevent being manipulative. Autism affects people differently

RoseField1 · 16/07/2026 16:18

CaramelCaramac · 16/07/2026 14:52

That’s what Steph did, yes. I hope Steph continues to breeze her way through life and doesn’t have any reason to cry, because crying is bad. Crying means you don’t get to go to parties any more.

You are clearly projecting

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:15

CaramelCaramac · 16/07/2026 16:13

Neurotypical people are also not a monolith. Some are kinder and more patient than others, for example.

And some learn the triggers for ND people, pull them until they cause a meltdown, and then say, "Look how dreadful she is!"

CaramelCaramac · 16/07/2026 16:13

OxfordCircus · 16/07/2026 16:08

Autistic people literally don't have the ability to be manipulative.

This is just not true. Autistic people are also not a monolith.

Neurotypical people are also not a monolith. Some are kinder and more patient than others, for example.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:13

usernumbernotfound · 16/07/2026 16:08

Doesnt matter - noone is owed friendship are they?

If Steph cant handle being friends with her due to past behaviour then that is entirely Steph's choice

Being close friends is one thing.

Leaving someone out is Regina George territory.

I'm absolutely not surprised that Clara is quitting the hobby- how humiliating for her to walk into a room knowing that she's the only one who wasn't wanted for being "too difficult" and that not one other person thought highly enough of her to say that they wouldn't be participating in it.

CaramelCaramac · 16/07/2026 16:09

Coconutter24 · 16/07/2026 16:03

Clara is understandably hurt and confused by this and feels excluded.

I get she’s hurt that’s understandable but why is she confused? She must know she does all of the stuff in the OP. I wouldn’t want my birthday party to be spent with someone crying in the corner.
Yanbu to go to your friends party

I would guess that Clara is still in the group chat and not blocked by Steph. So she’s confused, but not stupid. She worked out that she’s not invited. It would have been better for Steph to say “Everyone is busy because they’re at my birthday party and you’re not invited Clara, I have stopped inviting you to my events, but the others are happy to spend time with you away from me” - that’s a clear message.

OxfordCircus · 16/07/2026 16:08

thisandthats · 16/07/2026 13:38

Autistic people literally don't have the ability to be manipulative. She's just socially clueless because that's basically what autism is.

Autistic people literally don't have the ability to be manipulative.

This is just not true. Autistic people are also not a monolith.

usernumbernotfound · 16/07/2026 16:08

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 16/07/2026 16:06

Nobody asked her to sit up until 2am with Clara, and OP states that Clara was leaning on her friends for support after a break-up "for about a year" indicating it's over now.

She didn't just refuse to provide 1-2-1 support for Clara, she actively excluded Clara from an invite which included all the rest of the group.

Doesnt matter - noone is owed friendship are they?

If Steph cant handle being friends with her due to past behaviour then that is entirely Steph's choice

Instructions · 16/07/2026 16:07

Clara is understandably hurt and confused by this

Clara spent the entire weekend and next 3 days at home crying

Steph has clearly said she’s done with Clara’s drama, and Clara thinks Steph is a selfish fuck

Clara thinks Steph is the selfish one?

Clara sounds extremely controlling and draining.