To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

At the end of the day, its a funny old game and you couldnt write a script like this. A win is a win though: both teams were playing at a high level, the other team just wanted it more. I'm happy with the way our guys performed today, we're not quite there yet, but we're getting closer. If it had been on target, it would have been a goal

Its a game of two halves, goals win games, and its no use being as sick as a parrot, though were going to have nightmares over that one for years.

I think we all know who the 'prick' is

This is what’s hard to take. If the decision had been different.

That is twisted mentality. You can’t go into a game and think oh I’m not as good as the team I’ve got I’m trying to beat.

No he doesn’t. What has he done to make you post this?

Simply because they’re reeeeealy good, but not the best in the world, so it’s a pretty accurate representation of their very impressive talents. Did you see France play this tournament? The most incredible football I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, but yet they are out at the same point as us. Not all teams can win. I get the disappointment because they could have won, so could have France, but we did do brilliantly. Our problem this time was sitting back and getting defensive one goal up far too early. That’s fine against teams like Norway, but not Argentina. Defending with messi round the goal for half an hour is never going to go well and unfortunately it didn’t. When we were on the front foot we played some incredible football yesterday; would have loved to see a second half like that. Then if we’d won or lost we’d have not fallen back on the old English approach of caution and sitting back deep. Unleash those lions! We did bloody well. And Thomas Tuchle’s subs bar last night were all a great call, so there’s still so so so much to be encouraged by. Well done boys!

That was definitely the problem. We were going great guns, right up until Tuchel decided to take Gordon off and have a 5 in defence. Just nuts to do that with at least 30 minutes to go against a side like Argentina. The lads didn't stand a chance really. I'm absolutely gutted for them.🦁🦁🦁

Def agree with your second half taking the game to them but not with first half ,of course they wanted to win and some are playing after recovery from really nasty nasty injuries.

You should apply to be the England manager.

It’s very obvious that the Argentinian players said something. Likely forgetting Bellingham can speak Spanish.

If the VAR sees serious foul play the ref has missed they can intervene.

This! I thought the ref did well to be honest- we were outplayed and the move to defensive play left us little chance to counter attack.

But that’s football - the team you love can be beaten, you can be relegated, you can win the toughest games and lose ones you should win. Sometimes I hate football and sometimes I love it!

How far do you want to go back?
We have had players that seem to not want to play.
We have had teams were the players just stop playing during the match
We have been beaten by better teams
and in some cases the managers tactics have been entirely wrong.
IMO you should never go entrirely defensive then throw two strikers on with 5 minutes left to play.

Then you also have the coaches that pick egos and big names over better players.

Jude Bellingham is not a prick.
Here's one example of his integrity. He stopped to speak to a disabled Venezuelan reporter IN SPANISH when no one else would
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jCKTpXZISLo

I think he's amazing and he's still only 23.

He’s really nice.

Well if I was to walk up to someone in the street or at work and hit them in the head, that would be quite indefensible.

Because they are not good enough. Because they are overpaid regardless of results, therefore the drive, the pride, and the will to win is not there. Because they are too afraid of injury, which may stop the gravy train. Because they do not have a winner’s mentality. We had a reasonable first half last night, at least the kids-on-a-park passing game had stopped and they appeared to be more focussed. The second half, all I could see, constantly, was a load of white shirts hogging their own goal mouth. As was demonstrated, to be just defensive, the opposition will see you as ‘fearful’ and will attack, attack, attack. At 2:1, they had nothing to lose but to go on the attack. We should have taken the game to them instead of shivering in a bunch like cowards bunching in our own half.

@GasPanic it's up to the ref and there were soooo many fouls in the first 23 mins that it must have been hard to keep up.

@XelaM roony is still a good player with experience and much of what he said was true. He said when you have too many defenders you think someone else will get it.

He also humbly admitted how awful past world cup teams were saying " what party, we didn't even turn up to the party. ".

Yesterday it was a clear managerial error. They just couldn't hold on against such quality Argentina team plus Messi. It was impossible. Had the manager brought on some wingers like Saka they absolutely could have had a chance.

Not really much worse than Kane falling down for the foul every time someone got within touching distance of him. He's been doing that throughout the tournament.

If there was serious foul play the VAR would pick it up and people would get sent off.

It's not so called dirty tricks they were violent we have not seen this another games to this degree

OP are you very young?

To even suggest the current team are "failing" at the final hurdle - you clearly have not seen many England games prior to 2018. the fact that they are even in the conversation for the actual title and are top 4 team in the world is so far removed from the England of old that it's like a different stratosphere.

Which makes Rooney's criticism of the team an actual joke. I don't know how he's not embarrassed to criticise them when England with him was an actual laughing stock and his involvement a meme.

Because they aren’t as good as they think they are. They get to the latter stages playing easier teams and when they come up against a half decent team they fail. Every single time.

Oh really so the hit around the head was usual game play then? Ditto the shirt pulling. They were horrible.