To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

Haaland is a Nepo baby. His dad played for Man City.

The same as Wayne rooney's son has just been signed to play professional football

Yeah. But not good enough to win the tournament. It's not rocket science

Yet they got to the semis so clearly win some games.

They're just not good enough to win. It's not hard to know.

To be fair, it's not as if all the players had the banner.
I think they're likeable because they showed tenacity, grit, never gave up, and basically went for the goal instead of playing it safe.

At the end of the day, they gave their fans something to be happy about, England did not.

It must be a British thing to think winners have to be nice.

I also agree with some posters that some of the footballers are paid ridiculously high salaries. I know some people give this reason and that reason why it's OK that they get so much, but people are still allowed to think they're overpaid!

When I used to go to football matches with my dad and brother late 1970s/early 1980s, the tickets were between £2.00 and £4.00. Basically £12 to £23 in today's money. And it was Liverpool, and Wolves, and Birmingham City, and Manchester United we saw who were playing, not the local five-a-side teams. Try getting a ticket for £12 now for a football match for a premier league team..

The super high salaries that some footballers get HAS to be contributing to the high ticket prices that some fans pay now!

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I also agree with some posters that some of the footballers are paid ridiculously high salaries. I know some people give this reason and that reason why it's OK that they get so much, but people are still allowed to think they're overpaid!

When I used to go to football matches with my dad and brother late 1970s/early 1980s, the tickets were between £2.00 and £4.00. Basically £12 to £23 in today's money. And it was Liverpool, and Wolves, and Birmingham City, and Manchester United we saw who were playing, not the local five-a-side teams. Try getting a ticket for £12 now for a football match for a premier league team..

The super high salaries that some footballers get HAS to be contributing to the high ticket prices that some fans pay now!

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Let's not forget the accused rapists who also played this time round.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jun/21/thomas-partey-england-ghana-handshake

How many times?
That was because 30 years ago was Euro 96 which was played in England
It was about football ie the tornament coming home not that England should win
In fact the lyrics suggest that like always despite the hopes and dreams of the players and fans
We know England will cock it up at the last minute.

'Understanding sportsmanship and having class has nothing to do with winning though'

Yes which is why I said obviously none of that counts when it comes to winning.

How can you think they're not unlikeable?! The fouls then the fake Falklands claims? They aren't a nice bunch <yes thet has nothing to do with winning it's just an observation>

Yes you're right they were the better side they're just so unlikeable, tiny men fouling left right and centre. The Falklands tatty bed sheet crap, they're just a load of little shits.

Obviously none of that counts when it comes to winning but you look at Norway, England even the Mexican fans who were good natured in defeat and it's just a shame that the argies don't understand sportsmanship and class.

People aren’t pretending to find the women’s game exciting. Some of us actually do. In fact, season tickets for Manchester City Women have sold out this year so that’s a lot of people ‘pretending’.

I find comments like this quite pathetic really. It’s absolutely fine to say it’s not something you enjoy but to say people are pretending to enjoy it is ridiculous. Who are you trying to convince? It all sounds a bit misogynistic tbh.

Totally agree the whole “we won in 1966” we are great is now embarrassing and needs to be put to bed. I think this is often a reason that non-English players do not support England as they’re still banging on about this win from 6 decades ago.

My son came home from school saying his mate was singing “one World Cup and two worlds wars” 🤦🏼‍♀️

this is embarrassing on so many levels, one the child (or the parents) don’t really understand the significance of it being directed at Germany so makes no sense on its own. Secondly, England did not fight these wars alone as they fought as part of Great Britain, the British Empire, and a massive global Allied coalition. And thirdly, the World Cup win was 60 years ago…

And that's fine obviously, glad you enjoy it. We're all different though and as I said earlier I'm not the only person to liken it to school football tournaments excitement wise as a viewer. Some people pretend it's as entertaining as watching men play but imo it is for from it.

I echo the comments that England are not great but good.
Always the bridesmaid but never the bride.
Please no flaming for this comment, it's just an old expression to denote how somebody can be good but not great.

I also think it's time the 1966 and '30 years of hurt' - now 64 by time of next World Cup! - gets put to bed.

Given their ages, 69 and 62 respectively, I suspect songwriters of Three Lions only Skinner remembers it but not Baddiel, anyway.
Nobody under 67 is going to have a clear memory of '66 so it gets more absurd with each passing World Cup!!

Half a million a week - is a bit disgusting though when people are using food banks in England

Understanding sportsmanship and having class has nothing to do with winning though.
I get the sense that they feel they've got a God given right to be there.

I don't think they're unlikeable at all.
The nerve, the not ever giving up, all admirable qualities.

Though I have to say that I could not help but think that Tuchel's decisions made me think, does he want England to lose?
(I'm not English but I like the team, your average England football fan gets on my nerves, though. So I was sort of neutral about who won.)
I just don't know why he did what he did.

England just do not have what it takes.

I really, really hope that 1966 gets down played now. And that bloody Three Lions song.
The only people who will have a clear memory of '66 will be on their mid-70s by 2030.

I don't know and I'm not going to ask how old you are but I remember It was about 30 years ago that they really laid it on thick about '66, probably getting nostalgic in' 96 because it had been such a long time.
Nostalgia is always resorted to when nothing better going on.

Understanding sportsmanship and having class has nothing to do with winning though.
I get the sense that they feel they've got a God given right to be there.

I don't think they're unlikeable at all.
The nerve, the not ever giving up, all admirable qualities.

Though I have to say that I could not help but think that Tuchel's decisions made me think, does he want England to lose?
(I'm not English but I like the team, your average England football fan gets on my nerves, though. So I was sort of neutral about who won.)
I just don't know why he did what he did.

England just do not have what it takes.

I really, really hope that 1966 gets down played now. And that bloody Three Lions song.
The only people who will have a clear memory of '66 will be on their mid-70s by 2030.

I don't know and I'm not going to ask how old you are but I remember It was about 30 years ago that they really laid it on thick about '66, probably getting nostalgic in' 96 because it had been such a long time.
Nostalgia is always resorted to when nothing better going on.

Yes you're right they were the better side they're just so unlikeable, tiny men fouling left right and centre. The Falklands tatty bed sheet crap, they're just a load of little shits.

Obviously none of that counts when it comes to winning but you look at Norway, England even the Mexican fans who were good natured in defeat and it's just a shame that the argies don't understand sportsmanship and class.

Not sure I agree about Messi being a 'class act'. Wasn't he found guilty of tax evasion a few years ago? Also, while he's not holding up the 'Malvinas' banner, he's there cheering along right next to them.

He's obviously a generational genius in football, but I've always found him unlikable. Yes, I'm sure he's devastated.