To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

That's hilariously english

If you're in the semis you're enough to win. I'm no footie expert but even I can see a lot of it comes down to luck as well as technique. It's not rocket science. France didn't get through, they were good enough to win too.

Did you support England out of interest?

I do blame Tuchel a bit for the loss too (as many others on here do.)

I do wonder, deep down, if these Non English managers deliberately stop England from winning. Tuchel is bloody German. Why would he have the best interests of the England team at heart?

Sven Goran Erikkson is Swedish.

Fabio Capello is Italian.

Maybe I'm just chatting shit, and spouting wild conspiracy theories.

Maybe not.

I do not want another non English manager for the England team.

I think in a lot of South American countries, the so called "Dark Arts"/ gamesmanship and pushing the rules to the limits are viewed in a different way than they are in Europe - as part of the game and a legitimate strategy to win rather than something to be abhorred.

Funnily enough I think the European game is increasingly becoming about gamesmanship - probably largely due to the financial stakes involved.

Horrible isn’t it. To be that talented, young and carrying the team and you still get posts like that one from the pp.

I think in a lot of South American countries, the so called "Dark Arts"/ gamesmanship and pushing the rules to the limits are viewed in a different way than they are in Europe - as part of the game and a legitimate strategy to win rather than something to be abhorred.

Funnily enough I think the European game is increasingly becoming about gamesmanship - probably largely due to the financial stakes involved.

Have you not learnt that two things can be true at once. It’s an important skill in critical thinking.

I think the Argies have systematically cheated in this tournament. I haven’t seen all of their matches but the off the ball stuff like just barging into our players like Bellingham and Kane with no ball near them in order to rile them up and lose their concentration is absolutely calculated. Also the rolling around is an unfortunate part of football but they do it on an industrial scale, which I find really obnoxious and isn’t what you’d hope to see with great champions. Their game against Egypt was another case in point where they were extremely lucky to go through and the officiating was a big part of enabling this.

Messi is not some hero he is a tax dodger who only went to the US from Spain because he was sulking that the case went against him. When you are a multi, multi millionaire there’s no excuse for tax dodging.

Having said all that from a playing perspective they completely deserved to beat England. We weren’t outfought but we were outthought and ultimately outplayed. Largely because the manager’s tactics completely played into the Argentine hands. But fair enough from a footballing point of view they deserved that place in the final. But class? Do me a favour.

Oh and the football is coming home song for the ultimate time is not about thinking you’re the best it’s the total opposite.

Yeah. But not good enough to win the tournament. It's not rocket science

Yes I agree. There’s a good chance we could have won. His tactics after the goal didn’t just neutralise our threat they actively played into the Argentinian team’s hands giving them a huge amount of space that Messi was able to exploit.

Agree!

And if the individuals who carried that tatty bed sheet crap, feel so strongly about the Falklands, lets see them wave it around after finishing a game of domestic football, cos plenty (7?) of the Argentinian side play for clubs in the Premier League. ah, no, didn't think so...

Yes you're right they were the better side they're just so unlikeable, tiny men fouling left right and centre. The Falklands tatty bed sheet crap, they're just a load of little shits.

Obviously none of that counts when it comes to winning but you look at Norway, England even the Mexican fans who were good natured in defeat and it's just a shame that the argies don't understand sportsmanship and class.

That's not how sports work

Have you not learnt that two things can be true at once. It’s an important skill in critical thinking.

I think the Argies have systematically cheated in this tournament. I haven’t seen all of their matches but the off the ball stuff like just barging into our players like Bellingham and Kane with no ball near them in order to rile them up and lose their concentration is absolutely calculated. Also the rolling around is an unfortunate part of football but they do it on an industrial scale, which I find really obnoxious and isn’t what you’d hope to see with great champions. Their game against Egypt was another case in point where they were extremely lucky to go through and the officiating was a big part of enabling this.

Messi is not some hero he is a tax dodger who only went to the US from Spain because he was sulking that the case went against him. When you are a multi, multi millionaire there’s no excuse for tax dodging.

Having said all that from a playing perspective they completely deserved to beat England. We weren’t outfought but we were outthought and ultimately outplayed. Largely because the manager’s tactics completely played into the Argentine hands. But fair enough from a footballing point of view they deserved that place in the final. But class? Do me a favour.

Oh and the football is coming home song for the ultimate time is not about thinking you’re the best it’s the total opposite.

Seeing the posts from players it is sad. Still feeling it today. But mostly just wondering what would have happened if Tuchel hadn’t made that decision.

That's not how sports work

Yes but there’s a difference between not being good enough to win and not deserving to win on the day. It’s indisputable that we weren’t good enough on the day. But less so that we couldn’t have won that match with different tactics.

However I think Spain was brilliant in the semis against France so I don’t think we would beat them whatever tactics they and we employ. I really hope the Argentinians don’t win through fouling and getting the rub of the green from the officials. That would taint the whole competition. Whoever wins I hope it’s the best not the sneakiest team.

The team as a whole includes management etc. they didn't play well enough on the day so they lost. That's how it works.

What do you mean? Lots of players waved the raggy bed sheet displaying fake claims. England players would not have done that.

No they don't have to be nice per se, just play fairly and less of the fouling. Be proud sportsmen not little shits.

Absolutely this. It is also sad that a lot if fans can’t accept this, and be objective annd realistic about it. So many make up excuses such as biased ref or the other team was cheating.

They were good enough. The manager's tactics cost them the match. We beat Mexico in ridiculous heat and played out our skin in a stadium where Mexico never lose.