To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

No it's not all evil Brits to blame. It's also not the current English people's fault what happened.

However, a lot of bad things happened and people remember. A lot of them are not going to support England in football. Why would they.

Ans also why do you want them to? Isn't it enough that English people support England?

England were holding on to dear life at the end of that match and that was against 10 men and no real star player.

You can't do that against a better side.

Oh fgs Northern Ireland, you knew what I meant, yes? There are plenty of unionists in Northern Ireland it's not all the Evil Brits to blame.

Oh I definitely think many English people would have supported Argentina in that case!

Ireland is not a home nation by the way. Northern Ireland (the bit that the UK took from the rest of Ireland) is listed as a home nation. Best to get that right

Can you imagine if scotland had progressed there is no way English people would have ever have supported Argentina. We have such loyalty for all home nations it is sad to see how full of bile some scots, welsh and irish are. Oh but hang on some of the English did bad things centuries ago, hence the hate. The argies invaded a British country causing the deaths of many service people much more recently but hey, what's wrong with that!

I do blame Tuchel a bit for the loss too (as many others on here do.)

I do wonder, deep down, if these Non English managers deliberately stop England from winning. Tuchel is bloody German. Why would he have the best interests of the England team at heart?

Sven Goran Erikkson is Swedish.

Fabio Capello is Italian.

Maybe I'm just chatting shit, and spouting wild conspiracy theories.

Maybe not.

I do not want another non English manager for the England team.

Can you imagine if scotland had progressed there is no way English people would have ever have supported Argentina. We have such loyalty for all home nations it is sad to see how full of bile some scots, welsh and irish are. Oh but hang on some of the English did bad things centuries ago, hence the hate. The argies invaded a British country causing the deaths of many service people much more recently but hey, what's wrong with that!

Yes but this is an international competition so should be played to global rules. There are cameras everywhere. The ref. could have been informed about the barging off the ball by the fourth official or the VAR team, some of it happened in front of the ref. They should have had a warning and then been booked for the next offence. Guess what team’s player was booked first???

I loathe the dark arts in English football too. Unfortunately they tend to benefit the bigger clubs who tend to get the balance of the decisions so there’s no incentive to crack down on it.

This. ^ It's only when anyone supports the ENGLISH that some people seem to have a problem though, and particularly if it's an ENGLISH person doing it! 😱

Haaland is a Nepo baby. His dad played for Man City.

The same as Wayne rooney's son has just been signed to play professional football

Meaning?

I find the way men react to 'their team's winning or losing absolutely nuts, most women I actually thought were too sensible to enter into this nonsense.

'What has been interesting is some of the lovely stuff I've seen like Norway's rowing'

Norway and England supporters definitely showed class and dignity in defeat though I agree.

Yeah right.

I couldn't give 2 boots who wins to be honest 😂 I actually really dislike football. I find the level of buying into the hysteria quite mad. I wouldn't even have known who was playing if it wasn't for posts online.

What has been interesting is some of the lovely stuff I've seen like Norway's rowing and Scotland putting cones on statues, noone else who has lost seems to be such sore losers as the England team. As I say I'm just going by online coverage but it has been amusing.

I love how you're accusing me of xenophobia for responding to a post listing every non English person I volved in the England team to blame them in some way while deciding it's all a big co spiracy theory. Wild.

One person said one thing yet you said 'how typically English'? Isn't making negative sweeping statements based on nationality xenophobia?

Who did you want to win on Wed night? I bet I know the answer.

Oh England didn't win the football tournament... Which non English person can we blame 😂 while lamenting 'why didn't they won't when it's quite clear they didn't win because the other team beat them. So bizarre.

You don't seem keen on anything English. Did you support the England team? I'm thinking not.

I do blame Tuchel a bit for the loss too (as many others on here do.)

I do wonder, deep down, if these Non English managers deliberately stop England from winning. Tuchel is bloody German. Why would he have the best interests of the England team at heart?

Sven Goran Erikkson is Swedish.

Fabio Capello is Italian.

Maybe I'm just chatting shit, and spouting wild conspiracy theories.

Maybe not.

I do not want another non English manager for the England team.

Now there is extensive video, VAR, all angles of the pitch covered there could be a retrospective appraisal by VAR panels and a either rematch ordered or awarded to opposition in the light of cheating, nasty, unsportsmanlike behaviour. Retrospective cards or bans as well. If they knew that barging players off the ball was going to cost them the match they'd be less inclined to do it.