To ask why the England team (the men) keep falling at the final hurdle, (well virtually at the final hurdle,) at the football World Cup ... and The Euros too?

Ah good old deflection!

That means you won't answer because you see you were wrong.

'Im not sure what relevance the troubles have'

You certainly have the memory of a goldfish then, seeing as you were involved in the conversation earlier on this thread about it

We were playing Argentina. I'm not sure what relevance the 'troubles' have here.

You accept that he Falklands war is not more recent than the UK/IReland troubles though, yes?

Falklands war was early 1982.

The good friday peace agreement in Northern Ireland was signed in 1998

'She described the Falklands war (1980s) as more recent than the UK/Ireland conflict'

Unionists v republicans conflict. No one is keeping NI part of the UK except their own residents 'A majority of voters in Northern Ireland favor remaining in the United Kingdom over joining a united Ireland. Recent polls consistently show support for staying in the UK at around 50% to 58%, while support for a united Ireland generally ranges from 34% to 42%'

Oh pipe down. Street fights? In your dreams.
i guess they had every right to make fun of you as you scored one tiny goal. We got through to the final four. So on the back of all the Scottish goading, you got a taste of your own medicine.
Except we are one of the top teams and you are most definitely not.

What DNA comment?

It's played to what the players think they can get away with.

Generally my experience of watching the game in the prem is that players wise up pretty quickly when regulations change. A couple of sendings off is all that is needed to stamp out particular behaviour. The question is whether FIFA actually wants to enforce that to "improve" the game (improve in quotes because it is a matter of perspective as to whether it actually improves the game or not).

I think the quality of refereeing in this tournament has been exceptionally poor. When I watch games in the prem, it always amazes me how good the refs actually are, how much they see and how little actually gets past them.

I think smaller countries with less developed domestic leagues don't really have the opportunities for refs to work with the best (at playing and at cheating) players, don't have access to the technology, review systems and training that refs in the prem have. So there is no reason to expect they should be anywhere near as good. But of course the world cup has to be inclusive in terms of which countries supply the referees.

I would like to see an exchange program set up by FIFA where maybe one or two refs in the top domestic leagues need to be from other countries. This would help bring up refereeing standards in general as they are trained up to deal with the very best players.

It's not a competition piglet89. And I think your posts are getting more and more bizarre.

First you said that you knew more than me because you lived in Northern Ireland and I haven't.

When I pointed out to you that you are wrong. that I have actually lived in Northern Ireland, and I actually lived in it during the era of the troubles, now you know more than me because you lived there longer than me. I saw soldiers on my street in Northern Ireland all the time.

Also it's So strange that you are directing your aggression at me and not at Gloriia, who wrote that the Falklands war was more recent than the Northern Ireland troubles!

How amazing that her inaccurate sentence didn't draw even the slightest bit of irritation from you. Be consistent.

Gloriia obviously knows less than you about Northern Ireland. isn't that what you get angry about? Why are you not spouting bile at her?

Are you joking?
When Scotland went out, social media was FULL of English fans laughing and taking the piss.
This is one reason that Scottish fans don't, on the whole, support England.

Another reason is the shit we've had from England over many years, being treated like second-class Brits.

Additionally, loads of English posters on here are getting annoyed/bored with mentioning 1966, and hoping the Three Lions song get dropped soon. That's another reason people don't support England - banging on and on about it, plus the sense of entitlement and huge expectations that the fans have.
Followed by domestic violence and street fights after losing.

What did the English supporters do?

No. I don’t think that’s at all offensive.

You lived two years in a country where you saw a couple of soldiers versus my experience, which involves:

1. Pot shots taken by (basically) child soldiers at the army in the field at the back of my childhood home and resultant fall out;
2. School bus diverted away from Protestant areas, lest rocks be thrown at it;
3. Parents’ ID checked whenever we drove from south into West Belfast;
4. buses regularly burned out, preventing travel to the city centre;
5. Kids from both sides of the divide being beaten up because of the uniform they wore;
6. Severely restricted freedom of movement during the Orange marching season.

I COULD GO ON.

And yet you have the audacity to try to dictate why I shouldn’t cheer for England and question the strength of my Irishness because I “moved away”.

I will ALWAYS be Irish. Always.

Anyone else enjoying the delicious irony of Ireland lover @mindymoo11berating an Irish person?

You couldn't make it up.

and you dont think you're offensive by writing (I've actually LIVED there - you just have an Irish parent) like you are the only person who could have ever possibly have lived in Northern Ireland. So rude!

Shouldn't you ask others if they have lived there, before you assume?

”Grow up”.

Brilliant riposte.

The most hilarious thing is you don’t actually realise how offensive you are.

Mind you, what can one really expect from someone who apparently cannot understand the fact footballers’ pay is determined by economics.

Yeah that pissed me off too

You dont' know anything about anyone on here. Just because I haven't given you every detail of my life, you think you know everything. You're the patronising one. I lived in the republic of Ireland for 20 years. I lived in Northern Ireland for two years during the height of the troubles.

I moved around like you did. you said that you moved to England.

You wrote 'I've actually lived there'. Like no one else could have lived in Northern Ireland. Lots of people have lived there.

I've lived in Northern Ireland during the troubles too. I remember the bombs and the soldiers on the streets. You are not the only one who knows what it was like.

Grow up

I liked Tuchel up until this point but his DNA comment annoyed me. We could have won without his changes.

You may have thought you meant the GF Agreement - but what you actually SAID was the war went on until 1998. The GF agreement’s signing and violence ending (ie end of the war, as you term it) happened at two different times, as you yourself recognise.

However, there is nothing someone who’s grown up in 80s West Belfast (and actually LIVED that) loves more though than some person with an Irish parent (but who wasn’t actually born there) telling them how it is, though - because they were on holiday in NI when the Omagh bomb happened. 👏 🙄

Not at all patronising.

I was talking about the Good Friday agreement.

I certainly know about the Omagh bombing - seeing as I was on holiday in Northern Ireland when it happened. I remember that they brought victims of the bombing to the hospital in the town that I was in.

I definitely know a lot more than Gloriia who decribed the UK/Ireland history as ancient History! Shocking

She described the Falklands war (1980s) as more recent than the UK/Ireland conflict. Totally incorrect.

@mindymoo11the GF Agreement was signed in 1998 but the Omagh bombing and other atrocities happened after that. It didn’t end in 1998, by any means.

A bit rich to berate other posters about their lack of knowledge of Irish history when you don’t seem to know it in any great depth yourself.

“I lived in Ireland for a while”.

Um, OK. I AM ACTUALLY a Northern Irish Catholic. I lived in Northern Ireland from birth until 1999 when I came to study in England. As I say: I have no problem cheering for England if Ireland isn’t playing against them because I’m not a bitter, small-minded person who can’t forgive (if not forget) the wrongs of the past and move on.

England has worked hard (particularly under Southgate) to improve World Cup performance. I see the people, not the nationality.

It never fails to surprise me at how little some English people know about the conflict between the U.K and Ireland.

As they say, history is rewritten by the more powerful country.

I know a Russian woman. She says that the Russian Governement are telling them that the war is all Ukraine's fault and they have to protect themselves from the Ukraine etc.

Actual Truth - Russia is the main attacker and aggressor in the war

It was, oops.

England were heroic in their defending that match but a better team would have unlocked that.

But yes, it was a 10 men England standing strong.

How is it ancient Gloria when the war in Northern Ireland went on until 1998.

The Falklands war was in the early 1980s

I mean choosing not to support either side playing is also possible

Ancient? It's very recent. It's actually still ongoing as many people in the island of Ireland believe that the U.K. is occupying Northern Ireland. They want Northern Ireland back. They want a united Ireland