I believe biological patterns come out

Oh. Then I think you're being petty. Of course the person who posted that was referring to the trans women who are in prison, no one thinks every trans woman is in prison.

OP said 41% of trans women are in prison for sex offences.

Of course 41% of trans women aren’t in prison, for sex offences or otherwise. There are about 50,000 trans women in the UK and only 339 trans prisoners of both genders.

I think she means that the line sounds like 41% of “trans women” overall are in prison for sex offences. We have no idea how many “trans women” are sex offenders other than convicted ones, but 41% of TIMs overall as a population cohort are not in prison.

YANBU but honestly I have seen women say just as horrible things.

Difference being though, that women are much less likely to actually carry out any attacks.

@MrsPapillon there's a high chance I'm just being thick, but I don't really understand what you mean here?

41% of trans women are NOT in prison for sex offences. 41% of trans women PRISONERS are in prison for sex offences. There is a HUGE difference between these two groups!

Aren't any trans women in prison, prisoners in prison?

A professor at staffs uni wanted to investigate exactly this. He was targeted by nut jobs who tried to get him sacked. FSU got involved but of course the damage to your mental health and reputation is in tatters.

It's a bit of a bugger. It's called 'self ID', not 'what other people think of me ID', so if a man says he's a woman, then that's what he is. It goes along with 'I am who I say I am'. Scads of them have a Damascene conversion on being arrested, but their epiphany cannot legally be gainsaid.

Oh, they do that when the day ends with 'day'. Also a bat wrapped in barbed wire. There's no end of it over at terfisaslur. At first I could only read one page but I've now read it all. Know Thine Enemy.

It is beyond belief that you think this is just a possibility, when we all know that you only have to say 'no' to a transwoman and the man will appear.

That's quite a remarkable depth of detail and specificity to his comments.

The poster is I think a PBP here on MN, that’s the MN connection. I think people saw it on Bluesky as it was under the same name.

I think they are the very worst of men. None of the men I know talk about women the way trans identifying men and their allies do.

(Also, just on the statistics, it's 62% of transwomen prisoners that have committed sexual offences, compared to about 20% of male prisoners who don't identify as trans.)

Male TRA posted about a splintery rolling pin. I don’t think it was actually on MN. It was directed at JKR.

It might have been. When I read it. It was a woman posting about them saying it.

I think that was a TRA posting on MN, wasn’t it?

Agree OP. Male pattern behaviour is a clear giveaway that someone is male, if we didn’t have any other signs of it.

You don’t understand percentages, do you?

41% of trans women are NOT in prison for sex offences. 41% of trans women PRISONERS are in prison for sex offences. There is a HUGE difference between these two groups!

Many men (who are not trans women) claim that they are trans women when they are arrested for sex offences, because they know they will be segregated from the male prisoners and not get beaten up. This massively skews the statistics. I’d be very interested to see how many of these sex offenders were actually identifying as women prior to their offences and arrests.

What do you mean by "men that would think they are female" (as opposed to "men who think they are female")?

Apologies if English isn't your first language.

I hope that herbert entity loses his job.

41% of transwomen who are in prison are in prison for sexual offences. That is very very different from 41% of transwomen being in prison for sexual offences.

Someone posted recently that a trans woman wished for a woman to be raped with something (a baseball bat maybe) with nails hammered into it. I can't remember who it was (rubbish memory) but WTF!

I once attended a professional, paid training run by a UK wide organisation where someone wore a shirt 'trans people are sacred' and no one batted an eyelid.

Training was in no way linked to LGBT themes.