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Neighbour and his england flag!

162 replies

incrediblyincredible · 15/07/2026 10:30

Our NDN are both 80, and we don’t have the best relationship with them, we feel they can be a bit inconsiderate in terms of boundary noise. We’ve had to mention a couple of things which have affected the enjoyment of our home. So we don’t really speak anymore and they have clearly taken offence despite us mentioning things in a polite way.

Anyway, the man has put up a large England flag on a pole on the joining fence. It’s right at the front of the house and the pole isn’t particularly high so the flag flaps in our faces or visitors faces when they open our gate to go down our walkway. This morning I got pissed off with it as the wind is always blowing our way so the flag is always over our boundary and it looks like it’s our flag as a result (just to add I love football and have no issues with the flag itself, just the positioning of it).
So this morning I wrapped it round the pole and opened my gate to make a point that it’s a walkway.
Anyway, I was sat in my living room and I heard the man come out and say “someone’s wrapped that up!” In an angry loud voice.
AIBU to think that he should realise it’s a bit inconsiderate and could put the flag in an area that doesn’t hang over our boundary?

OP posts:
ThreadGuardDog · 15/07/2026 15:47

Mygardenshedisfallingdown · 15/07/2026 15:19

Don't know about flags but I like to see my knickers blowing in the breeze, preferably when I'm not wearing them though.😆

Wonder if there’s a way for OP to attach her knickers to the flag !!

Ohmygawdflippingheck · 15/07/2026 15:46

Bullandbear · 15/07/2026 15:24

Was the flag the Union Jack or St George’s cross?

Someone else up thread asked a similar question, am I missing something? The "England flag" is always the St George's Cross?

youalright · 15/07/2026 15:46

It will be down by tomorrow i really wouldn't stress over it. If you make a thing of it then they will to and will leave it up even longer. Its not worth it

ThreadGuardDog · 15/07/2026 15:46

DeadBug · 15/07/2026 15:34

Op: a neighbour's flag is flapping in an inconvenient place for me.

Mn: well, what flag is it? Have you named it correctly? And it's not windy where I live.

Peak MN innit ?!!

ThreadGuardDog · 15/07/2026 15:44

OP you need to establish who owns the fence and is therefore responsible for maintenance of it. I had a similar problem with a new NDN after I moved into a new build. As soon as the neighbour moved in, they attached a metal pole to a fence post on the boundary fence which they used to string a washing line. It was my fence - erected and maintained according to the property deeds. I asked them to take it down and they refused - they seemed to think it was jointly owned and maintained. Before I could do anything about it we had high winds and the weight of the washing brought the pole down along with the fence post and a panel.

I wrote them a letter, attaching copies of the property deeds and invoices from when it was erected, to prove it was my fence, as well as an estimate for the repair from the original fencing company. I told them that what they had done amounted to criminal damage, and asked them to please have the fence repaired by a certain date (think it was 28 days) or I would take further action - and to please not attach anything to their side of the fence which could damage it as it was not their property. Thankfully they didn’t argue and it was fixed.

If you own the fence then you can do similar - write a formal letter explaining it’s your fence, attach copies of any proof you have, and ask him to take it down. It’s a form of civil trespass and any damage or weakening of the fence structure as a result is criminal damage. Give him a deadline by which time it must be removed. If he fails to do so then legally you can remove the flag and the pole, but you must return it to his property undamaged.

If your neighbour owns the fence, or it’s jointly maintained then your next best bet is the airspace above your land. You own it and the flag overhanging and flapping onto your property is a direct infringement on your property rights. take photographs and videos of the flagpole and the flag flapping low over the boundary. Write a similar letter and ask him to either take it down or move it somewhere where it doesn’t cause a nuisance. Again give a timescale by which you’ll take further action if he doesn’t comply.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 15/07/2026 15:43

I'm with you OP. I might have drawn willies on it as well, just to annoy him. Let's face it, he deliberately put it where it would flap in your face, he got angry because you wrapped it round the pole. Right now, just about anything will infuriate him further. Maybe . . . maybe you could hang the Argentinian flag your side, just for a few hours?

DeadBug · 15/07/2026 15:34

Op: a neighbour's flag is flapping in an inconvenient place for me.

Mn: well, what flag is it? Have you named it correctly? And it's not windy where I live.

peakyblenders · 15/07/2026 15:33

BauhausOfEliott · 15/07/2026 10:48

Of course she means the St George cross, which is the flag of England. What else do you think she means by 'England flag'? A picture of Mr Blobby and a Gregg's?

OP, absolutely YANBU. If it's hanging over your property, they're dickheads.

I believe at this particular time in the calendar it's known as the 'Engerland' flag. God that annoys me. 🙄

Bullandbear · 15/07/2026 15:24

incrediblyincredible · 15/07/2026 10:30

Our NDN are both 80, and we don’t have the best relationship with them, we feel they can be a bit inconsiderate in terms of boundary noise. We’ve had to mention a couple of things which have affected the enjoyment of our home. So we don’t really speak anymore and they have clearly taken offence despite us mentioning things in a polite way.

Anyway, the man has put up a large England flag on a pole on the joining fence. It’s right at the front of the house and the pole isn’t particularly high so the flag flaps in our faces or visitors faces when they open our gate to go down our walkway. This morning I got pissed off with it as the wind is always blowing our way so the flag is always over our boundary and it looks like it’s our flag as a result (just to add I love football and have no issues with the flag itself, just the positioning of it).
So this morning I wrapped it round the pole and opened my gate to make a point that it’s a walkway.
Anyway, I was sat in my living room and I heard the man come out and say “someone’s wrapped that up!” In an angry loud voice.
AIBU to think that he should realise it’s a bit inconsiderate and could put the flag in an area that doesn’t hang over our boundary?

Was the flag the Union Jack or St George’s cross?

Picklelily99 · 15/07/2026 15:19

BeanQuisine · 15/07/2026 11:09

There'll always be an England,
Where the High Street drinker begs,
And shoppers in their PJs pause
To fill their gobs with Greggs.

Well that's me sorted for Last Night of the Proms!

Mygardenshedisfallingdown · 15/07/2026 15:19

Don't know about flags but I like to see my knickers blowing in the breeze, preferably when I'm not wearing them though.😆

ThreadGuardDog · 15/07/2026 15:11

moltopianissimo · 15/07/2026 11:48

Betjeman?

Larkin. Clearly.

Purpleharlow · 15/07/2026 14:52

BauhausOfEliott · 15/07/2026 10:48

Of course she means the St George cross, which is the flag of England. What else do you think she means by 'England flag'? A picture of Mr Blobby and a Gregg's?

OP, absolutely YANBU. If it's hanging over your property, they're dickheads.

😂😂😂😂

LadyGemBelleoftheBall · 15/07/2026 14:41

I'm a street artist and this thread had inspired me. I'm thinking London, depicting the figure stepping off the plinth. Watch this space.

MickyMoonshine · 15/07/2026 14:31

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It’s been really windy here in the NW the last few days. It’s partly why two local wildfires have spread so quickly.

MickyMoonshine · 15/07/2026 14:28

YourBrightDog · 15/07/2026 13:53

It really is worrying that people seem to persist in lazy trope of England flag = racist. The womens football team winning the Euros and now the men's team doing better than expected in the World Cup is something to celebrate. Also if OPs neighbour is in his 80s it means ge would have been in his 20s in 1966 prime age to remember the last time England won. Frankly I think this week is not the week to make an issue of it. Tieing up the flag was a bit OTT and J am pleased to see in her last post that the OP seems to be regretting doing so, or at least making it so obvious that she or someone from her family did it.

I completely agree.
Our England bunting and flag goes up for both the men’s and women’s tournaments. We’re not racist/right wing.

We’re just normal family enjoying supporting our national team. We also put up a pride flag during our local pride weekend 🤷‍♀️

HotinJapantonight · 15/07/2026 14:14

Can see why you did it but it's pretty passive aggressive really.

As much as it would irritate me, which it would monumentally, I'd have just let it go. It won't be for much longer in the great scheme of things.

Fluffyholeysocks · 15/07/2026 14:12

HolidayHappy123 · 15/07/2026 14:09

Put a small piece of fence on your side of the boundary so it can’t fly over.

Yes. Go to the lengths of buying and cutting up a fence panel so you can erect a small piece of fence on your boundary to stop a flag flapping in your face when it's windy. But if we lose it may be down in the morning anyway..

AnonyMumAuDHD · 15/07/2026 14:11

Can you not simply pop a note through or knock on the door and say: ‘Love the flag - Bellingham is doing well, isn’t he? However, I wondered whether you could move the flag so that it does’t overhand our boundary? I know the footie’s nearly over, but it’s causing us a few problems and so we wondered if it could be shifted along a bit?’

HolidayHappy123 · 15/07/2026 14:09

Put a small piece of fence on your side of the boundary so it can’t fly over.

AgentPidge · 15/07/2026 14:06

It's not really the flying of the flag though, is it? If we agree it's fine to fly it for a few days in support of our national team? No, the problem is the same as if you were sitting next to him on a train and he spread his knees right out over your space. It's manspreading. ( I know they're a couple but I'd bet there'd be no flag if he wasn't around. )
I had similar with twit neighbour who stuck a Halloween pumpkin on the fence between our gardens. It was in our way as we went up the path and it stayed there until it rotted and I pushed it off into their garden. It could've gone on the other side (semi-detached). We didn't challenge him bc knew he'd love to think it was winding us up. I'd probably ignore it, OP.

Nighttimenoise · 15/07/2026 14:05

Are people really not able to just either duck or avoid the flag , it's one flag not a whole avenue of them..

TalkToTheHand123 · 15/07/2026 13:57

I'd keep wrapping it up.

EasternStandard · 15/07/2026 13:54

YourBrightDog · 15/07/2026 13:53

It really is worrying that people seem to persist in lazy trope of England flag = racist. The womens football team winning the Euros and now the men's team doing better than expected in the World Cup is something to celebrate. Also if OPs neighbour is in his 80s it means ge would have been in his 20s in 1966 prime age to remember the last time England won. Frankly I think this week is not the week to make an issue of it. Tieing up the flag was a bit OTT and J am pleased to see in her last post that the OP seems to be regretting doing so, or at least making it so obvious that she or someone from her family did it.

Yes it’s people celebrating the football teams.

YourBrightDog · 15/07/2026 13:53

It really is worrying that people seem to persist in lazy trope of England flag = racist. The womens football team winning the Euros and now the men's team doing better than expected in the World Cup is something to celebrate. Also if OPs neighbour is in his 80s it means ge would have been in his 20s in 1966 prime age to remember the last time England won. Frankly I think this week is not the week to make an issue of it. Tieing up the flag was a bit OTT and J am pleased to see in her last post that the OP seems to be regretting doing so, or at least making it so obvious that she or someone from her family did it.