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AIBU to let my son decide on Swiss military service?

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ForHeartyEagle · 14/07/2026 19:06

I’m looking for some outside perspectives because I can genuinely see both sides and I’m not sure whether I’m being too protective or whether my DH’s own positive experience is influencing how strongly he feels.

Some background: I’m British, my DH is Swiss, and we currently live in England. Our DS turns 19 next year (you receive the information about it at 18 and go to the basic training info talks etc then too, our son has been) and has the opportunity to take part in Swiss military service. It’s voluntary for him as he was born in Switzerland and has Swiss citizenship through his dad. We lived there when he was younger, but he has grown up mostly in England.

DS is actually very connected to his Swiss side. He speaks German, French and English fluently. He attended a French school here in England, where there are lots of Swiss children, and many of his close friends are Swiss. He is not someone who has grown up disconnected from Swiss culture or language.

The issue that has come up is Swiss military service. Because of his citizenship, it is something available to him if he chooses to pursue it. DH feels very strongly that DS should consider doing it as a gap year before university, DS is currently about to take his gap year after receiving his French baccalaureate results and did incredibly well. He had offers for university and was going to attend either Uni of Edinburgh or Durham but chose to take a gap year and will be off travelling with friends in a few weeks

DH’s view is that this would be an incredible opportunity at 19. He sees it as much more than just military service he sees it as a rite of passage and an important transition from being a teenager into adulthood.

DH did Swiss military service himself and genuinely looks back on it as one of the best experiences of his life. He talks about the friendships he made, the responsibility he was given, learning to work with people from completely different backgrounds, being pushed outside his comfort zone and gaining confidence and independence.

For DH, it wasn’t just about the practical skills. It was about the shared experience and the feeling of becoming part of something bigger. Many Swiss men of his generation went through it and it was a normal and important part of growing up.

He believes DS would gain a lot from it too. He says it teaches things like resilience, discipline, teamwork, leadership, responsibility and confidence. He also feels that some of these skills are not necessarily taught in the same way in England where there isn’t a national service that young people are required to take part in at 18/19 up to age 24 at the latest. It’s just the norm in Switzerland to the point that if you do fail by 25 you are required to pay the military exemption tax so all able bodied young men essentially have to do it. He thinks education here is excellent, but that there are fewer opportunities where young people are taken out of their comfort zone, given responsibility and expected to work as part of a team in a challenging environment.

He also thinks it would be a chance for DS to deepen his connection with Switzerland. Although DS already speaks the languages and has Swiss friends, DH feels that living and working alongside other Swiss young people would give him a different understanding of Swiss culture and identity. He thinks DS could develop his language skills even further and experience a side of Switzerland that you don’t get just through school or family connections.

DH’s Swiss family all feel similarly. They see it as a huge opportunity and something DS would be lucky to have access to. They worry that if he doesn’t do it, he may look back later and wonder why he turned down something that could have been so valuable.

I do understand where DH and his family are coming from. I can see why DH feels passionate about it, especially because he had such a positive experience himself. I also think there is something quite meaningful about wanting to pass on an experience that shaped you.

Where I struggle is that DS himself isn’t particularly enthusiastic at the moment. He hasn’t completely ruled it out, but it is not something he is currently excited about. His plans are more focused on university and continuing the path he has already started in England.

DH has told DS that he would be very disappointed if he chose not to take this opportunity. I know DH means this from a place of love and because he genuinely believes it would benefit DS, but I do worry that DS may feel he is making the choice to please his dad rather than because it is what he wants.

My view is that our job as parents is to explain the opportunity, talk through the benefits and encourage him to think seriously about it, but ultimately it is his life and he needs to own the decision. If he chooses to do it because he sees the value, I will support him completely. If he chooses not to, I don’t want him to feel that he has disappointed his dad or his Swiss family.

DH’s argument is that young people do not always recognise the value of opportunities when they are young. Sometimes parents have to encourage their children to do things that challenge them because the benefits only become clear afterwards.

I can see that argument too. I’m not against encouraging him and I am also not against him doing it. I just wonder where the line is between guidance and pressure.

For those familiar with Swiss culture, military service, or children who have taken challenging gap year experiences: did they appreciate it afterwards even if they weren’t keen beforehand? Would you encourage an 18-year-old to take an opportunity like this because you believe it will shape them positively, or would you leave the decision entirely to them?

AIBU to just let him decide. He’s said to us ‘I’ll just do it if dad insists but can’t really be bothered’ which has really annoyed DH. He thinks he’s become too odd with this type of attitude and this is exactly why hr needs to do it. He’ll come back a different person.

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Lilyflower12 · 15/07/2026 14:01

It sounds like your DH should take a step back and let your DS make his own decisions. Your DS probably has plenty of other things he'd rather be doing with his gap year. If he wants to connect with his Swiss heritage, I'm sure there are plenty of other ways to do that which he would find more enjoyable and worthwhile than military service, like working or volunteering there or maybe studying there on a year abroad or something. Your DH sounds like he's trying to relive his youth through his son and that never goes well.

dottiedodah · 15/07/2026 13:54

I think to let him decide really.If his hearts not in it ,it wont work out very well.Tell your DH no pressure and if he wants to do it he will.

Trickedbyadoughnut · 15/07/2026 13:22

ony123 · 14/07/2026 20:02

I live in Switzerland and have girls but hear a lot about military service from their boyfriends and my friends' children.

The young people who seemed to really enjoy it did a specialism, such as army medic, ambulance driver or cyber soldier. Many of the ones who did the general soldier programme found it boring, miserable and depressing. Any hint of mental health issues and I would not recommend doing military service, there is an issue with suicide that is not reported in the press.

The other problem is that once you start military service, the army can force you to stay in the service for longer, to become a sergeant etc, even if it means delaying your studies further. And you have to return to complete more weeks of service for many years.

Yeah, I work here and seems much more familiar to me in terms of colleagues' and friends' experiences than you DH and his family's experience.

momager22 · 15/07/2026 13:14

Yep agree he’s an adult and it should be his choice.
Depending on what he’s planning to study, it may be more useful to his future career than a degree and all of the debt that comes with it though.

parachutegirl · 15/07/2026 13:05

I think it sounds like a really valuable experience and would be great for his cv. So many teens these days are lacking resilience and other life skills - but ultimately it’s his decision and you can’t pressure him. It’s really unfair of your DH to say he will be disappointed in him.

LeedsLoiner · 15/07/2026 13:04

Will it have any impact on him continuing to hold a Swiss passport or being able to live there in the near future - could he be arrested as a "draft dodger" next time he enters Switzerland ?

Also are there any implications for his British citizenship if he serves in the army of a foreign country?

canklesmctacotits · 15/07/2026 12:59

The irony of parents being this involved in their child’s independence from them 😂

Chilly80 · 14/07/2026 22:06

I think it is a great opportunity and would look excellent on a future CV.
We all know how hard it is to get a job and that would make him stand out from others.

thismummydrinksgin · 14/07/2026 21:40

Your Son has been raised in England not Switzerland, I think your husbands got to accept that may influence his decision.

Friendlygingercat · 14/07/2026 21:38

Your account immediately made me think of the relationship between the late Prince Philip and Prince Charles (now Charles III) Philip had really enjoyed his days at the incredibly strict school of Gordonstoune where he spent his formative years. He claimed that it helped him develop all the kinds of qualities which you speak of. In short it "made a man" of him. Poor Charles was not a macho man like his father and hated it. He was relentlessly bullied and scarred by the experience.

Your account is full of what your DH learned in the Swiss military service and the advantages he gained from it. I did not hear much of your sons voice in your account. Although you say your son is in touch with Swiss culture and obviously values that side of his heritage, your DH sounds over invested. Ultimately your son is now an adult and must make his own choices. Is there any reason why he cant have a gap year and then do his military service, if that is his choice?

heartsinvisiblefury · 14/07/2026 21:16

Sounds more like your DH wants to sign up for it than anything else. He sounds like he is smothering your son with HIS ideas.

Newsenmum · 14/07/2026 20:39

ony123 · 14/07/2026 20:02

I live in Switzerland and have girls but hear a lot about military service from their boyfriends and my friends' children.

The young people who seemed to really enjoy it did a specialism, such as army medic, ambulance driver or cyber soldier. Many of the ones who did the general soldier programme found it boring, miserable and depressing. Any hint of mental health issues and I would not recommend doing military service, there is an issue with suicide that is not reported in the press.

The other problem is that once you start military service, the army can force you to stay in the service for longer, to become a sergeant etc, even if it means delaying your studies further. And you have to return to complete more weeks of service for many years.

All of this

Newsenmum · 14/07/2026 20:38

If he doesnt actually want to do it, surely it could be quite a miserable year for
him? That’s a shame dh is putting so much pressure on him.

hahabahbag · 14/07/2026 20:15

National service isn’t quite the same as joining the military but in some countries you are then a reservist, probably less of an issue in Switzerland I suppose. My dc is in the military (uk) and loves it but it’s all voluntary here of course, very well paid too in their specialism (for age)

Delphiniumandlupins · 14/07/2026 20:10

I'm not really keen on the idea of military service but it does seem as if this would give your DS some valuable skills and experience. How is he funding his gap year? Your DH may grudge paying for a year of dossing around and then turning down what he sees as an opportunity not offered to everyone.Travel is great but the job market is getting more and more competitive so does he have plans for life after university? Your DS is an adult and has to make his own choices but it's difficult to stand back and let our DC make mistakes. (Sometimes they even come back and say "Why did you let me...?")

Katflapkit · 14/07/2026 20:10

I and our children were born in the Uk but we moved to Sweden (Swedish DH/kids Dad) when they were 8. Sweden has a voluntary 'national service' but this year all 17 year olds had to be complete a detailed questionnaire.

My son was wait listed this year but his friends are doing it now. It's only 9 months. They are enjoying it. Lots of practical stuff medical training, driving vehicles through forests type stuff. It am with your DH I think it will be a fantastic experience, also a chance to pick up some future skills . My husband did it and loves telling a military service tale.

OnGoldenPond · 14/07/2026 20:09

We have had an awful lot of detail about DH’s views on this, which are entirely irrelevant as it is entirely DS’s decision surely, as he is an adult? Your DH needs to wind his neck in, he seems to see DS as an extension of himself rather than as an independent adult in his own right, Fast track to alienating your own son.

I would advise you to tell your DH firmly that this is DS’s decision and he now needs to leave it. Tell DS that it is entirely up to him. Make sure he knows his Mum has his back in making his own decisions about his own life.

fluffiphlox · 14/07/2026 20:06

I think I got confused at the voting.
I would say that you should both back off. What a drama about one year of a 19 year old’s life.

ony123 · 14/07/2026 20:02

I live in Switzerland and have girls but hear a lot about military service from their boyfriends and my friends' children.

The young people who seemed to really enjoy it did a specialism, such as army medic, ambulance driver or cyber soldier. Many of the ones who did the general soldier programme found it boring, miserable and depressing. Any hint of mental health issues and I would not recommend doing military service, there is an issue with suicide that is not reported in the press.

The other problem is that once you start military service, the army can force you to stay in the service for longer, to become a sergeant etc, even if it means delaying your studies further. And you have to return to complete more weeks of service for many years.

HammyHocky · 14/07/2026 19:57

Let him decide what he wants. Stop discussing it, leave him to it. He’s an adult, let him go travelling and he can decide what he wants to do with his own life. The pressure is way too much, it can cause a rift between your husband and son. You need to tell your husband to back right off

ForHeartyEagle · 14/07/2026 19:55

Reportingfromwherever · 14/07/2026 19:44

OP, please re/read your original message. Do you realise how much of it is DH thinks, DH says, DH wants, DH’s family think, I think….

It’s literally all about other people. None of it really is about your son. What does that tell you?

That’s was why I post I do realise that

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ForHeartyEagle · 14/07/2026 19:54

ToKittyornottoKitty · 14/07/2026 19:38

You should try reading your own ramble back and reflecting on the pressure you and your DH are putting on your son. It’s out of order, especially your DH. That posters opinion was totally valid, because there’s no way your son is getting fair treatment over this situation with your DH being an arsehole and you and his family so deeply involved like this. Give him space to decide on his own, and approach for your opinion if he wants. He’s not even got real space for his own opinion here.

i agree I didn’t come here to say he or I wasn’t being an arsehole aha.

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Pinkissmart · 14/07/2026 19:51

It’s your son’s choice. It’s as simple as that. You’re over thinking this, it’s his life.

pongos · 14/07/2026 19:50

Fe is half Finnish and planning to do military service in Finland. His finish is poor but he is keen to learn. He will do IB and then the service and afterwards decide what to study. He doesn’t have a clear view yet but hat he wants to do

ForHeartyEagle · 14/07/2026 19:49

Stanislas · 14/07/2026 19:40

I read through your post and agree let him make up his own mind .my grandson did this ,hated every minute ,thought it was terrible having to run 20k in stupid heat after four hours sleep etc etc. it has transformed him into a wonderful young man from being a pleasant enough teenager ,who now knows who he is and what he can achieve. I would say I am amazed at what he has become and even his sister who does not suffer fools said it has made a man of him.

This is pretty much what DH has said. He’s not going to disown him if he chooses not to do it but thinks it will transform him and build resilience. He’s aware you’re able to build resilience in other form but this is also an opportunity. DH wasn’t too keen on it to begin with but by the end throughly enjoyed what he was able to achieve. He did not think he could do many of things expected but he achieved them all and by the end he says he wished he’d just started with an open mind the first few weeks and taken it day by day instead of sulking.

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