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Old lady keeps approaching my toddler, making me feel uncomfortable

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housinghun · 14/07/2026 11:04

I have a 2 year old and and when we go out sometimes we will see an older lady (about 60s early 70s) and she will always approach my son.

It started off as "Can I say hello?".
I agreed.

Next time she attempted to remove his cap "to see his face".
This made me feel extremely uncomfortable, touching my son.

OH took our son out last week and he told me that an old lady had smiled through the window at them as they walked past.
She had come running out the house and shouted "hello" but by that time they were gone down the road.
It was her.
I had never really mentioned this to him and this was the first time he has seen her.

I know it's innocent but it makes me feel really uncomfortable now going past as I don't want a stranger touching my son.

I did tell her "please don't touch him" as I don't want him getting used to strangers touching him.

I am over protective of my son but just wanted others views.
AIBU to feel this way?

AIBU

OP posts:
Onmytod24 · 15/07/2026 15:09

Anyahyacinth · 15/07/2026 10:44

OP instead of whipping up community hate for an old lady...how about buying one of these books and talking to her about it..showing her or giving it to her and say ..you want to be friendly but also want to protect your child.

Community gossiping about someone being "weird" is just nasty

such books are totally irrelevant. Children of that age are never unsupervised. The only danger they face are those within the family/ trusted adults

Sunseaandtea · 15/07/2026 14:55

letmebetheone · 15/07/2026 14:23

A sensible approach at last but not one the OP is likely to take notice of. Far better to blank someone.

The number of times the scenario has changed over the course of the thread is baffling.

This 'old lady' must have some go in her if she can see OPs husband going past her house and get out of the house quickly enough to sprint down the street after him. 😂As if!

Perhaps she was sprinting to my Zumba class.😅We have people in their 2Os to the oldest definately in her 70s but nobody asks or bothers. Ageism is rife on this forum with so many condescending & patronising remarks about older women by insinuating everyone in the 60 plus age group are decrepit😏😂

letmebetheone · 15/07/2026 14:23

SooPanda · 15/07/2026 14:11

To add, it’s fine to teach kids to be wary of strangers. “Oh hello Mrs X nice to see you, oh no thank you little Jonny likes to keep his hat on actually. Bye!”

Walk off… “well Jonny it’s nice to say hello to Mrs X isn’t it, but remember it’s ok because mummy or daddy are with you. If you were on your own you wouldn’t have to talk to her and you’re not allowed to go with her, because she’s not a trusted person in our family or friends”

A sensible approach at last but not one the OP is likely to take notice of. Far better to blank someone.

The number of times the scenario has changed over the course of the thread is baffling.

This 'old lady' must have some go in her if she can see OPs husband going past her house and get out of the house quickly enough to sprint down the street after him. 😂As if!

SooPanda · 15/07/2026 14:11

To add, it’s fine to teach kids to be wary of strangers. “Oh hello Mrs X nice to see you, oh no thank you little Jonny likes to keep his hat on actually. Bye!”

Walk off… “well Jonny it’s nice to say hello to Mrs X isn’t it, but remember it’s ok because mummy or daddy are with you. If you were on your own you wouldn’t have to talk to her and you’re not allowed to go with her, because she’s not a trusted person in our family or friends”

SooPanda · 15/07/2026 14:09

Classic AIBU post

OP: AIBU?
Most comments: actually, yeah
OP: no I’m not!!

Sunseaandtea · 15/07/2026 13:55

Sunseaandtea · 15/07/2026 13:33

Another ageist post insinuating a relatively young 60 plus woman needs to be educated by those who know better. 😂

After posting this I thought about the local zumba class I attend. If anyone told our 63 year old dance teacher there were posters on mumsnet who considered her an old lady who required books to teach her the modern day ways of the world she would laugh in their face 😂

LordofMisrule1 · 15/07/2026 13:46

God, I despair sometimes with this site.

YANBU OP. It's okay to not want strangers touching your child. They are a person, just because they're tiny and can't consent or dissent that doesn't mean they don't have rights and autonomy. It's a bit weird for a total strangers to try to touch a child just because they want to honestly. If you're okay with it then great, crack on. But if you're not, you don't have to tolerate it.

I had it quite a few times when mine was little. I didn't mind the odd thing, a lady gently squeezing his little feet in socks on the checkouts, someone I got into a conversation with playing with him by gently holding his hands or doing peekaboo. But some people were downright over the line. Trying to shove their finger into his mouth, during a pandemic. Trying to pick him up to cuddle him. All sorts.

As his parent you need to get used to standing up for yourself and him when you're uncomfortable, and to listening to your gut too. You can decide how you will respond next time ahead of time so you're ready. Maybe you say 'please don't stand so close, he hasn't had all of his jabs' or something. Or you say 'stop, I don't want you to touch him'. As he gets older you might feel the same, or you might feel more comfortable letting him handle it. Toddlers can often make their feelings about touch very clear! But for now it's your role to decide what you'll tolerate and be assertive if someone is making you uncomfortable.

Anyone that is trying to persuade you you're being unreasonable for this has a weird motive. Children aren't community property.

Sunseaandtea · 15/07/2026 13:33

Anyahyacinth · 15/07/2026 10:44

OP instead of whipping up community hate for an old lady...how about buying one of these books and talking to her about it..showing her or giving it to her and say ..you want to be friendly but also want to protect your child.

Community gossiping about someone being "weird" is just nasty

Another ageist post insinuating a relatively young 60 plus woman needs to be educated by those who know better. 😂

DaftOpalPoet · 15/07/2026 13:07

BettyJoanPerske · 14/07/2026 11:16

These comments are insane. You don't owe this woman politeness, I would blank her next time.

That's rather unkind. Everyone deserves politeness unless they're being unpleasant. This lady isn't! Maybe she has grandchildren she doesn't see often. Maybe she's lonely.
Although I agree setting boundaries with her if you feel uncomfortable about her touching your child.

Auntiebenita · 15/07/2026 13:01

housinghun · 15/07/2026 12:57

@SandyHappy Thank you. Agree 100%.

@HeyThereDelila - But that's you and your opinion. I don't want a stranger hugging my child. Simple. End of.

Of course that’s @HeyThereDelila 's opinion! That’s why you started the thread, to get people's opinions, isn’t it?

I don’t understand why you asked for opinions when you’re just discounting the ones (the large majority) you disagree with.

ButtercupYellow26 · 15/07/2026 12:59

You are paranoid.

housinghun · 15/07/2026 12:57

@SandyHappy Thank you. Agree 100%.

@HeyThereDelila - But that's you and your opinion. I don't want a stranger hugging my child. Simple. End of.

OP posts:
HeyThereDelila · 15/07/2026 12:51

She’s probably lonely. It didn’t happen as much with my DS in London, but with my baby DD in the shires we get this a lot more.

I don’t disagree with not wanting them touched, but a lot of old people love babies, and enjoy seeing them (reminding them no doubt of their own DC).

I actually ended up striking up a really nice conversation with one elderly couple recently. They were lovely and it was a really life affirming encounter. Don’t be so quick to push people away if they’re harmless.

SandyHappy · 15/07/2026 12:36

Thechaseison71 · 15/07/2026 12:05

I've had people in the street speak to me and shake my hand. No niggie

Cool story, but completely irrelevant, shaking hands implies mutual consent, respect even, and is a perfectly acceptable greeting for strangers, you both stick out your hand, you shake, you let go.

Someone you don't know coming up to you, and taking you hand to hold it.. or taking off your hat 'to see your face' very different, you may be okay with it, some may not, the point is if it is clear you don't like it and you have asked the person not to do it before then it is rude of them not to respect your wishes to try to do it again. You can still have a lovely, friendly interaction with someone without having to touch and try and hug their child.

Ignore these people OP, they'll twist everything you say just so they can say they are right and you are wrong.

Thechaseison71 · 15/07/2026 12:05

housinghun · 15/07/2026 10:44

@Anyahyacinth
Im cruel because I don't want a random person touching and hugging my child?

Nobody is actual to answering my question.

WOULD ANY OF YOU BE OK WITH A STRANGER COMING UP TO YOU IN THE STREET AND DOING THE FOLLOWING:?

Removing your sun hat to "see your face?"
Touching your hands
Hugging you?

I don't think any of you would, but a 2 year old has to be subjected to this?

Na fuck off.

I've had people in the street speak to me and shake my hand. No niggie

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:51

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:40

Oh dear. A scoffer who thinks she's a mindreader. You're the only one making things up dear.

No sweetie, mind-reading isn't real. I'm going by YOUR post where you accused a random woman of causing a headache by TOUCHING you and then went on to clarify that this is because she's an energy vampire. This is exactly the kind of rubbish which got women KILLED in previous centuries and yet here you are, still perpetrating it.

friedaklein · 15/07/2026 11:41

Well, this thread has distracted me from the heatwave.

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:40

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:36

You think you're harmless and spiritual. Actually, it's people like you that were responsible for the hundreds of women burned as witches because you think that the things you made up in your head are the truth.

Oh dear. A scoffer who thinks she's a mindreader. You're the only one making things up dear.

KaleidoscopeSmile · 15/07/2026 11:38

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:29

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

It's what it deserved in this context

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:36

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:29

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

You think you're harmless and spiritual. Actually, it's people like you that were responsible for the hundreds of women burned as witches because you think that the things you made up in your head are the truth.

MrsRonaldWeasley · 15/07/2026 11:29

Some of these replies are batshit crazy!

Nobody would want a stranger... elderly or otherwise... to walk up to them and randomly touch them/remove their hat "so i can see your face". So why is it ok for someone to do this to a child?? My kids are older teenagers now but I absolutely would not have allowed this when they were younger. Nobody had the right to touch my child! I protected their bodily autonomy until they were old enough to do this themselves. And yes, I also didn't force them to give hugs even when certainly family members demanded it of them!

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:29

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:24

This has to be the best response of all.

She's not a paedophile, a trafficking scout or a demented old bat, but an ENERGY VAMPIRE ready to cause terrible headaches with her touch of death.

😂

Cue the scoffing twats. Yea I never anticipated that one 🙄

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:24

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:16

We must learn, then teach our children too that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait. People seeking to control others almost always present the image of a nice person in the beginning.

Like rapport-building, charm and the deceptive smile, unsolicited niceness often has a discoverable motive.

~ Gavin de Becker, 'The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence'

@housinghun here's the thing no one has touched on because they're all focused on how preposterous you are for thinking a kind, lonely lady is a paedophile - which of course you never said.

I wonder has anyone on this entire site ever had reiki done? Probably not. I'm sure it's far too woowoo for the level headed ladies of Mumsnet!

I've had it done. The first time by my lovely sister who'd only just passed her certification, and sadly I couldn't ascertain any effect.

The second time was a fiver deal at a local community centre where I went along just for larks. The woman allocated to me had her hands above my head, she was not touching me yet my head got so hot and my neck felt like it was going to snap from the extreme downward pressure radiating from her hands. I was more than a little freaked out.

Years later one of my (very level headed) clients told me that he'd once randomly, socially ended up in the company of an energy healer who'd gone on to heal him from the opposite end of a long hallway. Kind of as a party trick for the scoffers just to demonstrate how effective and powerful his energy healing was. Thing is, my client had had a very bad back ongoing for years which had occured due to a motorbike injury. And that random bloke healed it. Completely! The problem never returned. My client said he felt extreme heat at the time, like someone had placed a fire on full blast right behind him.

There's also some old footage of a qi gong master in China raising fire by the sheer focus of qi energy via his hands. It's not AI - I first saw it many years ago. The master was secretly filmed by a travelling American who'd heard about his skills and gone to seek him out and the master was livid to discover he'd been filmed.

I never went to have reiki again but I do have another experience of energy transference to relate vis an old lady who lived on my friend's street and used to sit on the steps outside her house. I can't remember how I first got chatting to her but after that I'd always pause. If my friend was with me, he wouldn't stop, just walk on. He told me he didn't trust her. His choice so I didn't press it but I did continue stopping alone for a quick chat whenever I passed.

So I thought my friend was just being moody as she seemed lovely, tho the conversation was often about some problem she was having. One of her complaints was about a friend who'd been so helpful doing things for her, then 'suddenly' they fell out and the woman abandoned her. It was clear to me from what was said about the situation that the friend had decided she was being used, but steps sitting woman's POV was that she herself was the victim of some huge misunderstanding.

Despite getting the ick from that, operating from the pov that 'no one is perfect' I still felt sorry for her so continued to pause in passing for a chat.

Then one time she was struggling to get some shopping up her steps so I actually went into her front garden to help instead of just chatting with her from the pavement. After I carried her stuff up, she touched my arm and I immediately felt cold running right through me and got a sharp headache. I'm not kidding or exaggerating, it was immediate and I was greatly disturbed by it.

When I reached my friend's home and told him, his response was "and that's why I stay away from her. I always got a bad vibe and you just confirmed it: energy vampire." Just as reiki lady et al had put energy out which generates heat and healing, others can take energy which generates cold and harm. And I'd always thought energy vampirism was purely emotional. Silly me! Though of course it can be that too.

Sure, the vast majority of people who touch us to express caring are completely benign and genuine. Unfortunately some (perhaps especially likely those who hang around waiting to catch passers by) are predators, rather than 'the lonely' or 'the damsels in distress' they present as. Unfortunately my gut does often fail me in telling the difference, but not everyone's does. I should have listened to my friend the first time.

This has to be the best response of all.

She's not a paedophile, a trafficking scout or a demented old bat, but an ENERGY VAMPIRE ready to cause terrible headaches with her touch of death.

😂

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 15/07/2026 11:18

Sartre · 15/07/2026 09:37

Those children were killed many years ago and not all by strangers, Holly and Jessica knew their killer. I actually had this discussion with my DH a few days ago. Children (thankfully) don’t seem to get abducted and murdered much anymore. I remember all of those cases well because I was a child when they happened and my Gran in particular was terrified something like that would happen to me so drove anxiety into me. It doesn’t happen anymore, I guess because children are inside on iPads.

It's always been extremely rare.

The VAST majority of child murders are perpetrated by someone in the home, usually a parent or step-parent.

When a "stranger murder" does happen, it's national news, dominates the front pages for weeks and continue to be brought into the public consciousness for decades afterwards, making it seem like it's around us all the time.

Statistically, strangers are the lowest risk to your child and those you love and trust are the highest risk. With the caveat that it's nearly always men.

Glockenspock · 15/07/2026 11:16

housinghun · 14/07/2026 22:58

I am genuinely aghast at some of the nasty replies on here.

I am happy for my son to say hello to people we see throughout our travels, he is very friendly.

BUT this lady's behaviour is very strange, she ran out of her house to see my son, that's very odd behaviour.

I don't owe her access to my son or any other stranger for that matter and I don't have to explain/ justify that to anyone either.

The fact other parents have commented that she also makes them feel uncomfortable with her behaviour is very telling.

Even if she is lonely or has dementia how am I responsible for that sorry?

I will get old one day but I can assure you I won't go round randomly touching/ frightening other peoples young children.

@WembleyArenaParking I am so sorry to read about your brother. That is awful. Thank you for sharing your story and for your support x

We must learn, then teach our children too that niceness does not equal goodness. Niceness is a decision, a strategy of social interaction; it is not a character trait. People seeking to control others almost always present the image of a nice person in the beginning.

Like rapport-building, charm and the deceptive smile, unsolicited niceness often has a discoverable motive.

~ Gavin de Becker, 'The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence'

@housinghun here's the thing no one has touched on because they're all focused on how preposterous you are for thinking a kind, lonely lady is a paedophile - which of course you never said.

I wonder has anyone on this entire site ever had reiki done? Probably not. I'm sure it's far too woowoo for the level headed ladies of Mumsnet!

I've had it done. The first time by my lovely sister who'd only just passed her certification, and sadly I couldn't ascertain any effect.

The second time was a fiver deal at a local community centre where I went along just for larks. The woman allocated to me had her hands above my head, she was not touching me yet my head got so hot and my neck felt like it was going to snap from the extreme downward pressure radiating from her hands. I was more than a little freaked out.

Years later one of my (very level headed) clients told me that he'd once randomly, socially ended up in the company of an energy healer who'd gone on to heal him from the opposite end of a long hallway. Kind of as a party trick for the scoffers just to demonstrate how effective and powerful his energy healing was. Thing is, my client had had a very bad back ongoing for years which had occured due to a motorbike injury. And that random bloke healed it. Completely! The problem never returned. My client said he felt extreme heat at the time, like someone had placed a fire on full blast right behind him.

There's also some old footage of a qi gong master in China raising fire by the sheer focus of qi energy via his hands. It's not AI - I first saw it many years ago. The master was secretly filmed by a travelling American who'd heard about his skills and gone to seek him out and the master was livid to discover he'd been filmed.

I never went to have reiki again but I do have another experience of energy transference to relate vis an old lady who lived on my friend's street and used to sit on the steps outside her house. I can't remember how I first got chatting to her but after that I'd always pause. If my friend was with me, he wouldn't stop, just walk on. He told me he didn't trust her. His choice so I didn't press it but I did continue stopping alone for a quick chat whenever I passed.

So I thought my friend was just being moody as she seemed lovely, tho the conversation was often about some problem she was having. One of her complaints was about a friend who'd been so helpful doing things for her, then 'suddenly' they fell out and the woman abandoned her. It was clear to me from what was said about the situation that the friend had decided she was being used, but steps sitting woman's POV was that she herself was the victim of some huge misunderstanding.

Despite getting the ick from that, operating from the pov that 'no one is perfect' I still felt sorry for her so continued to pause in passing for a chat.

Then one time she was struggling to get some shopping up her steps so I actually went into her front garden to help instead of just chatting with her from the pavement. After I carried her stuff up, she touched my arm and I immediately felt cold running right through me and got a sharp headache. I'm not kidding or exaggerating, it was immediate and I was greatly disturbed by it.

When I reached my friend's home and told him, his response was "and that's why I stay away from her. I always got a bad vibe and you just confirmed it: energy vampire." Just as reiki lady et al had put energy out which generates heat and healing, others can take energy which generates cold and harm. And I'd always thought energy vampirism was purely emotional. Silly me! Though of course it can be that too.

Sure, the vast majority of people who touch us to express caring are completely benign and genuine. Unfortunately some (perhaps especially likely those who hang around waiting to catch passers by) are predators, rather than 'the lonely' or 'the damsels in distress' they present as. Unfortunately my gut does often fail me in telling the difference, but not everyone's does. I should have listened to my friend the first time.