AIBU to ask whether the death penalty should apply for certain crimes in the UK?

Yes. Costs too much to provide full board and lodging for long prison terms. Would then free up space for shorter sentences.

The US has enormous wealth discrepancy and disparity.

Absolute poverty on a par with Third World nations coexisting with extreme wealth. Sheer scale of the economy is meaningless.

No. I live in the U.S. I don’t agree with it on any shape or form for a whole host of reasons but it doesn’t deter crime and is extremely cost ineffective and the endless appeal process ties up valuable court resources. I also think is an easy way out, truly terrible criminals should have to live out their life in prison

On a societal level no - a civilised country does not execute its citizens.

However on a personal level I'd make exceptions for the Southport murderer, Wayne Couzens and Robert Black (who's dead now anyway). The crossbow murderer too. But fortunately for our civilisation it's not down to me.

I'm perfectly calm.
I wasn't insinuating you where a rabid nut job.
Just reiterating it not going to change in the UK.
This is a topic thats been done to death so to speak.

Anyone calling for the murder of citizens by the state are every bit as bad as murderers themselves. They too are giving in to their murderous instincts and baying for blood. No doubt they would be exactly the kind of person to attend an execution for entertainment and then pretend to be holier than thou whilst indulging their blood lust.

I think your question is pretty pointless tbh and I’m sure you would accept it is too.

You are not going to get an analysis of the social political cultural and economic differences between the uk and Japan that influence our crime levels, particularly when you have specified it can’t be too simple.

Maybe it’s too simple to say that our societies are so very different we have very little in common and there little in their crime presentation toolkit that we can apply to our society

Never, because if it is wrong to kill someone it is always wrong. State sanctioned murder is still murder.
Also practically mistakes have been made and can never be ruled out.

My preference is not for the death penalty, so you can calm down.

Again, too simplified. Americas economy is better than ours.

More obedient societies.
I'll cut to the quick it's not going to be reinstated in the UK.
So put away the pitchforks and burning torches for this one.

Easy.

Economic success has removed the number one motive for crime - poverty.

No. It isn't a deterrent. People either kill because they lose control or because they are psychopaths that think they will get away with it anyway.

Explain Singapore and Japan then. It's not as simple as "But America...". There's no evidence it lowers crime rates, but there's no evidence it increases crime either.

Great research 🤣

OP: "You could get a computer to do executions". Statement made to counter a poster's point that capital punishment has too high a cost for the humans involved in carrying it out.

OP posts article link, presumably to back up statement.

Article abstract subheading: Execution by Lethal Autonomous Mechanism: How Anti-Capital Punishment Arguments Might Lead to Automated Executions—and Why Such Automation Must be Prevented.

Article abstract body: However, we argue that while LAMs resolve these specific challenges, they simultaneously generate new ethical concerns. First, LAMs will not eliminate the moral and psychological burden on corrections personnel entirely but rather redistribute it to networks of AI developers, software engineers, and technology professionals who become implicated in state-sanctioned killings through their work...Second, LAMs’ elimination of human presence undermines the exercise of benevolence through sustained interpersonal engagement, from sharing final conversations to offering comfort during an inmate’s last moments. This human connection, which preserves dignity even within a dehumanizing process, cannot be replicated by automated systems and is a further argument against their adoption.

Moral of the story: always read, and understand, the article you decide to link to.

Ain't going to happen.
America has it that isn't exactly working out is it for one of the most violent Societies in the planet.

We should have a referendum on it. Give the people the choice.

It's never going to be reinstated in the UK
For very good reasons.

I read once about a man who kept a woman imprisoned for years, gave her forced abortions, raped her and even removed her teeth so he could rape her throat more easily. I'd happily give him the death penalty. So yes, in some extreme circumstances, I'm ok with it.

@PenelopeJoanSterling Have you read any of the articles you linked, or do you just not understand them? The only one that has anything to do with execution is 100% theoretical. The other 2 are about unmanned drones in the military (which still have a human overseeing them) and implementing technology in prisons, such as a computerised visitors register rather than the paper version some prisons are using, and controlling the heating via a central command system, etc.

The technology to do what you propose with executions doesn't exist, and likely never will. Not because we don't have the expertise to build it, but because it would be prohibitively expensive. The cost of designing, building, and integrating a system like this would run into billions.

Unmanned drones built on tech we already have. We don't have any current tech capable of extracting a frightened prisoner from their cell and walking them to the death chamber. We are a long way from that kind of tech being feasible and cost-effective.

No one has argued that taking life is unnatural to humans. Quite the opposite in fact.

Maybe start a political philosophy A level. Analysis of wars - why they happen, what rules govern them, are they ever "just" - figures prominently.

In the meantime, this is your thread. Perhaps try to kerp it on track.

Why did you post a link to an article which (a) doesn't mention execution, (b) stresses the fact that direct human involvement is key and (c) has nothing to do with the thread - death penalty, merits of - that you started?