Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

India – loved it, but I came back feeling so violated.

929 replies

LondonLass40 · 12/07/2026 19:18

Just back from the Golden Triangle with my husband (43) and 12yr daughter. Stunning forts, incredible food ( lucky no Delhi belly 😀) amazing history is genuinely breathtaking.

But I’m struggling to process the darker side.

One afternoon in Delhi, my husband stayed at the hotel. I took my daughter to a busy market near cannaught place in broad daylight, crowded. A man walked past and grabbed my breast. Right in front of my daughter. He just kept walking. I froze. My poor girl kept asking why he touched Mummy.

Then there was the constant selfie nonsense when my husband was there and men lining up, putting their arms around me, getting too close while my husband stood there awkwardly not knowing what to do.

And the worst part was at the Red Fort queue. This guy kept pushing into me from behind – clearly not an accident. I turned around and shouted at him. He didn't run, didn't even look embarrassed , he just walked away ignoring me like I was invisible. I spoke to a security guard who just pretend to do something and did absolutely nothing.

I know these issues aren't isolated to India and this could happen in London too. But this was so blatant, so frequent, so relentless that I simply cannot ignore it. I've been to so many tourist destinations around the world and have never experienced harassment on this scale. It felt inescapable.

I don't know – does this only happen to Western women? I'm sure men like this do the same to Indian women too. How on earth do they deal with this every single day? I honestly don't think I'd go back.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
17
BlueFahrenheit · 13/07/2026 08:32

Sinescure · 13/07/2026 08:28

Think about it. If people just crowd around you doing this to you, how do you actually stop them? It's not "posing," she never said that, but you are very brave and competent in the abstract, aren't you? If you say no and they won't stop, and there's way more of them than of you, what do you do? OP's husband doesn't sound like he was much use but he may have been nervous or is not that assertive, not every man is.

I'm sorry, but a man needs to be masculine and assert his authority to protect his family, especially in places like India.

Sinescure · 13/07/2026 08:31

VideoVox · 13/07/2026 07:21

I live in London, and travelled in India in the 90s. Completely incomparable in terms of how men behave. The shift was noticeable even crossing the border from Nepal to India, I had no issues in Nepal despite being a blonde woman travelling alone. I won’t bother listing all the issues I had in India from men but they were multiple, and serious. It’s not somewhere I want to go back to again, though in many ways found it an incredible country.

Yeah, I live in Nepal and never had any issues here. I know some people do, and I am reasonably cautious, but I don't think it's on anything like the same scale as some places. I never get hassle to buy things either - a younger friend who visited said she did, but I never have, maybe because I usually have kids with me.

BagthorpeSaga · 13/07/2026 08:31

I know that visiting the Golden Triangle is probably a ‘cool’ thing to do.
To chat about it at dinner parties - if you’ve got more money than sense ..
if you do a quick google - 1 million people in India go missing each year. 65% of those are women and children.

chirrupybird · 13/07/2026 08:30

A western woman alone is considered fair game particularly if not modestly dressed. I was there for work (a few years ago now) so was pretty much protected by being with Indian male colleagues or other brits working out there most of the time, the worst problem I had was more persistent beggars and getting conned in the streets. These things do take the shine off though.

Sinescure · 13/07/2026 08:28

BagthorpeSaga · 13/07/2026 07:56

Just re -read your post & saw the bit about you posing for photos with strangers / men lining up & putting their arms around you - while your husband just looked awkward.
Was your 12 year old daughter there with you at this time?
Good grief. Please sit down with your daughter & talk about safety & women.
What an example to set to her. 😱
You were basically allowing yourself to be an object.
And your husband was allowing it too.
Your poor daughter .

Think about it. If people just crowd around you doing this to you, how do you actually stop them? It's not "posing," she never said that, but you are very brave and competent in the abstract, aren't you? If you say no and they won't stop, and there's way more of them than of you, what do you do? OP's husband doesn't sound like he was much use but he may have been nervous or is not that assertive, not every man is.

Sinescure · 13/07/2026 08:26

Deadleaves77 · 12/07/2026 19:21

Your 12yo daughter was asking why a man touched mummy?

You think it is normal for a child to see her mother groped? She might not have questions about it? Weird world you live in.

Wheresrebeccabunch · 13/07/2026 08:25

Wow. Sorry this happened to you OP. I’ve always wanted to visit but this thread and all the other accounts, has def made me think twice, even to go with my husband. I’ve experienced some of this is N.Africa but not to this extent. Thanks for sharing your experience.

BlueFahrenheit · 13/07/2026 08:23

I fail to understand why India is romanticised, especially with the overwhelmingly high number of accounts of women being abused on their 'holiday'.

Diosmonet · 13/07/2026 08:14

NoisyHiker · 13/07/2026 07:58

Oh god... don't let her go, please.

She can have many wonderful experiences elsewhere. Not going to a country where her rape would be seen as acceptable will not hinder her in the slightest.

Completely agree. My own dd would not be going, no matter how many of her friends were. A trip to India has far far more risks than 'positive experiences'.

I would also use to opportunity to explain why countries like India are so unsafe for women and girls.

This need to explore parts of the world that pose such threats, needs to be frowned upon now. I have not encouraged the wanderlust I had, with my own dds. Whether things have changed for the worse or not, we are much more aware now than we were 20 plus years ago.

DrRylandGrace · 13/07/2026 08:14

AlphaApple · 12/07/2026 19:37

Did someone seriously ask “what were you wearing?”

Fucking hell.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51-hepLP8J4

BlueFahrenheit · 13/07/2026 08:06

krne · 13/07/2026 07:50

My daughter's school are in the process of organising a World Challenge trip to India and I'm really not keen on her going. We are avid travellers but India is somewhere I've never wanted to go for these reasons. I'm really torn because I want her to have this experience but just wish they'd picked somewhere different.

I wouldn't entertain the idea of my daughter asking to visit India.

Experiences can be had in safer countries.

Diosmonet · 13/07/2026 08:03

chedderland · 13/07/2026 07:23

Op is lucky nothing similar happened to her daughter. What a risk. And she sounds shockingly naive for a 12 year old. Unless she has additional needs she needs to wise up a little

Why on earth does she sound 'shockingly naive for a 12 year old'?

BlueFahrenheit · 13/07/2026 08:02

LondonLass40 · 12/07/2026 19:18

Just back from the Golden Triangle with my husband (43) and 12yr daughter. Stunning forts, incredible food ( lucky no Delhi belly 😀) amazing history is genuinely breathtaking.

But I’m struggling to process the darker side.

One afternoon in Delhi, my husband stayed at the hotel. I took my daughter to a busy market near cannaught place in broad daylight, crowded. A man walked past and grabbed my breast. Right in front of my daughter. He just kept walking. I froze. My poor girl kept asking why he touched Mummy.

Then there was the constant selfie nonsense when my husband was there and men lining up, putting their arms around me, getting too close while my husband stood there awkwardly not knowing what to do.

And the worst part was at the Red Fort queue. This guy kept pushing into me from behind – clearly not an accident. I turned around and shouted at him. He didn't run, didn't even look embarrassed , he just walked away ignoring me like I was invisible. I spoke to a security guard who just pretend to do something and did absolutely nothing.

I know these issues aren't isolated to India and this could happen in London too. But this was so blatant, so frequent, so relentless that I simply cannot ignore it. I've been to so many tourist destinations around the world and have never experienced harassment on this scale. It felt inescapable.

I don't know – does this only happen to Western women? I'm sure men like this do the same to Indian women too. How on earth do they deal with this every single day? I honestly don't think I'd go back.

Why didn't your husband tell the men to leave you alone?

These savage men now have pictures of you on their phones.

Ludicrous.

Bumbers · 13/07/2026 08:01

I have been to India 5 times between rhe ages of 20-41 (and would love to go back). I had an amazing time each trip - travelling all over the country.

BagthorpeSaga · 13/07/2026 08:01

And please check in on your daughter that she wasn’t groped / assulted too.
she may not know what is acceptable or not - because of you & your husband’s reactions / behaviour.

PetulaGordeno · 13/07/2026 07:59

Cnfndndndnfb · 13/07/2026 07:52

I saw a woman had to pepepr spray a migrant man when he refused to stop following her.

I got seriously sexually assaulted in Spain as a grown adult, sober, early evening by someone from another part of Britain who was definitely white British. Rather not say where from, just another part of the UK.

NoisyHiker · 13/07/2026 07:58

krne · 13/07/2026 07:50

My daughter's school are in the process of organising a World Challenge trip to India and I'm really not keen on her going. We are avid travellers but India is somewhere I've never wanted to go for these reasons. I'm really torn because I want her to have this experience but just wish they'd picked somewhere different.

Oh god... don't let her go, please.

She can have many wonderful experiences elsewhere. Not going to a country where her rape would be seen as acceptable will not hinder her in the slightest.

BagthorpeSaga · 13/07/2026 07:56

Just re -read your post & saw the bit about you posing for photos with strangers / men lining up & putting their arms around you - while your husband just looked awkward.
Was your 12 year old daughter there with you at this time?
Good grief. Please sit down with your daughter & talk about safety & women.
What an example to set to her. 😱
You were basically allowing yourself to be an object.
And your husband was allowing it too.
Your poor daughter .

Weeellokthen · 13/07/2026 07:54

MarmaladeorJam · 12/07/2026 20:05

Morocco was the worst travel experience of my life - groped, harassed, hissed at, stared at, followed and so on.

I ended up staying in the hotel for most of it. It was simply not worth the ordeal.

I had no faith in any of the men, or institutions which were run by men (eg- police).

Dreadful men.

I'm sorry you experienced that. I have only been to Agadir twice. My god, the people are more amazing than us Scots. We went from the biggest souk to rural parts. People (mainly men) cannot do enough to help you. Locals on the beaches, smiling and being friendly.
My dd loves Agadir and her people, so wants to learn Arabic (not French 😂) so she can move there, eventually 😂

Cnfndndndnfb · 13/07/2026 07:52

Redpaisley · 13/07/2026 07:51

You can’t put Spain in the same basket. I don’t think local men harass women in streets. There are a lot of immigrants from Pakistan, Morocco in Barcelona, selling beer in streets.

I saw a woman had to pepepr spray a migrant man when he refused to stop following her.

Redpaisley · 13/07/2026 07:51

ThePoetsWife · 13/07/2026 07:07

Barcelona is in Spain ie is a Christian country

You can’t put Spain in the same basket. I don’t think local men harass women in streets. There are a lot of immigrants from Pakistan, Morocco in Barcelona, selling beer in streets.

krne · 13/07/2026 07:50

My daughter's school are in the process of organising a World Challenge trip to India and I'm really not keen on her going. We are avid travellers but India is somewhere I've never wanted to go for these reasons. I'm really torn because I want her to have this experience but just wish they'd picked somewhere different.

handsdownthebest · 13/07/2026 07:47

Went to India 30 years ago...same thing happened to me and never wanted to go back and I have since lived and worked in different cultures all over the world.
Only time it happened again...very tight NY crowd trying to get to train at Waterloo in London a couple of years ago. Lots of young Indian men, I could tell that they were not British born (somebody will probably flame me for this comment). They were doing it to the girls in the crowd and pushing themselves against them taking advantage of it being so tight. The girls looked mortified. I called them out on it and they just pleaded ignorance and grinned.
Nothing has changed in their mentality in 30 years.

FurierTransform · 13/07/2026 07:40

No your not being unreasonable OP, and India is on a list of countries I would never ever visit

PinkHairbrushClub · 13/07/2026 07:40

I travelled to India with a friend and paid extra for a trip which had a male tour guide with us the entire time. It seemed to do the trick in keeping most of the men at the tourist places at bay. I wouldn’t be comfortable travelling in India alone at all, and the few times
we went out of our hotels for walks without a guide the male entitlement we met was off the charts, it was a constant barrage of haranguing.

It is a shame as the OP is right that the history and beauty of the country itself are amazing.

Swipe left for the next trending thread