India – loved it, but I came back feeling so violated.

Yes, it doesn’t make sense. But I think for the 'progressive' mindset there is an oppression tree and race / ethnicity sits at the top, probably along with trans. Other issues like gay rights, women's rights, are some way down.

Class politics are nowhere to be seen, unfortunately.

I think that you are correct.
In the instance of point 2, I guess it's easy to support something if it doesn't affect you personally.

I'll add a third possibility:

I think there might be something even more dark psychologically behind it.
It might be an expression of masochism.

It fits.
A person is a feminist, purportedly for the rights of women and girls, logically the last thing they'd want is a lot of men from cultures who treat women appallingly to move to the UK.

Yet they do.
And I'm wondering why.

You really can’t. But as I say you’re either racist or just bored neither of which I am interested in spending more of my time on.

Thankyou for linking this article. The Guardian should hang its head in shame.

It was the drip drip drip of incidents like this that caused me to lose faith in left-wing ideology.

If this is the article in question it is a pretty gross take…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve

“Young German women thankfully enjoy historically unprecedented economic and sexual freedom, with their expensive smartphones and their right to celebrate New Year’s Eve however they want. The same isn’t always true of young male migrants exchanging life under repressive regimes, where they may at least have enjoyed superiority over women, for scraping by at the bottom of Europe’s social and economic food chain. It is not madness to ask if this has anything to do with attacks that render confident, seemingly lucky young women humiliated and powerless. But even if it does, the answer wouldn’t be to halt immigration – even if that were possible, which it isn’t regardless of whether Britain leaves the EU – just in case a few immigrants are sexually aggressive, any more than the answer to Savile is to keep all men away from children.”

If this is the article in question it is a pretty gross take…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve

“Young German women thankfully enjoy historically unprecedented economic and sexual freedom, with their expensive smartphones and their right to celebrate New Year’s Eve however they want. The same isn’t always true of young male migrants exchanging life under repressive regimes, where they may at least have enjoyed superiority over women, for scraping by at the bottom of Europe’s social and economic food chain. It is not madness to ask if this has anything to do with attacks that render confident, seemingly lucky young women humiliated and powerless. But even if it does, the answer wouldn’t be to halt immigration – even if that were possible, which it isn’t regardless of whether Britain leaves the EU – just in case a few immigrants are sexually aggressive, any more than the answer to Savile is to keep all men away from children.”

I said it has no link to culture / nationality insofar as somebody who chooses to commit a crime does not become less French.

Also I think UK crime statistics have no relevance to France which is an entirely different country.

But that’s by the by as the poster has confirmed she was not deciding people are not French based on crime but based on skin tone.

I escaped gang rape by the skin of my teeth in India. I was literally gibbering in fear. Also had the boob grab but they was nothing compared with the first incident. Would never ever go back and told my young adult DDs not to go either it’s just not safe.

If this is the article in question it is a pretty gross take…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/08/cologne-attacks-hard-questions-new-years-eve

“Young German women thankfully enjoy historically unprecedented economic and sexual freedom, with their expensive smartphones and their right to celebrate New Year’s Eve however they want. The same isn’t always true of young male migrants exchanging life under repressive regimes, where they may at least have enjoyed superiority over women, for scraping by at the bottom of Europe’s social and economic food chain. It is not madness to ask if this has anything to do with attacks that render confident, seemingly lucky young women humiliated and powerless. But even if it does, the answer wouldn’t be to halt immigration – even if that were possible, which it isn’t regardless of whether Britain leaves the EU – just in case a few immigrants are sexually aggressive, any more than the answer to Savile is to keep all men away from children.”

Look, it's hard to know without details we don't have, but you are wrong that mugging doesn't have a racial component.

In the UK in any case, many types of crimes have ethnic and racial elements that are pretty prominent, including gangs that do muggings. Gangs are organised around ethnicity a lot of the time.

I would be surprised if it's not the same in France.

The guardian blamed the women?!?!

I think this is the biggest factor I've seen around this issue.

Poor and often rural vs well off, educated, and urban.

And yes - when there is little hope of a wife and family for most young men, and no way to work toward it, it seems to create a toxic attitude.

In my experience the women you're talking about are from 2 different tracks:

1. Women with ties to the cultures they defend
2. Women who live in white middle class enclaves who have zero actual interaction with misogynistic communities

Again, you can (mostly not always) tell ethnicity from skin colour/how people look.

These men were not "Francais de souche"

Spain is not a Christian country. It is Roman Catholic. Roman Catholicism is a works-based salvation (no salvation) as opposed to Biblical salvation which is through Christ alone.

You did not mention ethnicity. You mentioned skin colour and concluded that means they are not really French despite French people being a range of skin colours.

I don’t believe you are struggling with this as much as you are pretending to. I think you’re just bored.

But using their ethnicity as a reference?

@JHound I've read enough of your posts to know your only interest on this thread is in insisting that misogyny is exactly the same in all groups of men, irrespective of cultural background and upbringing.

You have minimal interest in the safety of women. Oh sure, you'll claim you do, but your interest in their safety comes way down your list of priorities, far under your concerns for the rights of men to do what they want.

But no doubt you consider yourself to be progressive. The new version of progressive that is actually incredibly regressive.

It’s fairly illogical to assume somebody in France is from a completely different continent solely due to skin colour.

Black French people came en masses from the colonies starting in the 1950s, so from then on at least some black French people were born there. Some might also be from the Carribean, eg. Guadeloupe was also a French colony.

Were they not from Africa logically? How am I getting this wrong?

My eyes were opened to this issue by the media response to the cologne attacks. First off it was just not reported on at all. Then the Guardian did a comment piece saying the mass sexual assault against German women was actually the women’s fault because they were white and had mobile phones.

Huh? Of course Roman Catholics are Christians!

www.christianity.org.uk/article/roman-catholic-christians

The predominant religion in Mexico, South America, Lesotho and DRC is roman Catholicism, which is not Christianity. If anything you further proved my point.