Urban DofE: does such a thing exist?

Maybe if you tell us what you want your daughter to get out of DofE, we can suggest an alternative. As a few posters have explained, DofE isn't a substitute for GCSEs, so you can stop stressing about finding an alternative expedition. There will be a better option out there to help your daughter.

Are you on meth? This is a terrible idea. A safety and safeguarding nightmare, plus there's no legal right to camp wherever you like.

Yet you said it’s a great idea to try and set an expedition up for next year…

The question mark one thing. And if OPs trying to organise a none compliant trip…. Then she’s trying to organise a non compliant trip. Which is still not the right thing to do for her daughter or the other random kids she drags into it.

End of day refers to the close of a standard business day. A Dofe trip is a business too. With rules. With an organisation. With responsibility.

The organisation behind dofe will not let OP in charge of a trip based of what she states here.

Why not?

End of day?
She wouldn't be allowed to lead a trip.

or

When all said and done, she wouldn't be allowed to lead a trip.

As the other post got deleted I am not sure you saw my comment, are you confusing the DofE with Princes Trust? As I recall this being a skills based thing for young people (possibly those who underachieved). I don't think DofE is what your daughter needs right now.
If she is unable to do a GCSE can she do functional skills instead? I would focus on making sure she has basic skills in maths and English rather than hiking her around the canals. I am not sure what you think this is going to achieve in terms of job opportunities - if a job requires basic maths skills rocking up and saying well I did DofE instead won't work.

Not heard that before. Still didn’t make sense.

It's a very common expression that means 'when all said and done'.

Forget this DoE obsession now and seek help for your daughter in relation to her mental health and her propensity to drink. What kind of drinking is this? Is it to excess? Is she getting into trouble when she drinks? Who is she drinking with?

You will get loads of helpful advice with the above on this site if you start asking the right questions.

I have 4 children none of them have ever done any of the DOE.

What do you mean ‘end of day’?

Are you doing a DofE in posting multiple threads OP? If so, award yourself a Gold.

Yes. I agree.

Well, no. But looking into it would answer all her questions. Not the answers she wants, but still.

I’ve just read your other post, so you’ve pulled her from in the centre and she won’t even get the DofE because she couldn’t have a go without her phone and with this group of girls? And now you’re looking for one that runs in the autumn/winter with very specific requirements that no one seems to meet? I don’t know what the long term plan is here, or the likelihood of you finding what you’re looking for, for something that isn’t going to replace a grade 4 gcse. Get her a tutor and resit the exams.

End of day?
She wouldn't be allowed to lead a trip.

if not go to nearest town and camp in a park there.

STOP it! 🤣🤣🤣

I think the biggest problem with the canal is that Gold DofE expeditions involve you having to navigate.

with the best will in the world, there’s minimal navigation if you’re just walking along a tow path.

Those things are illegal in England. You need to be camped at legal campsites.

If she isn’t quite ready for D of E maybe the Junior Duke award would be suitable? I don’t know loads about it but I think the focus is on developing independence. Could be worth a look.

I posted this on your other thread but still

is it challenging for gold? is it demanding for gold? that is the issue. is it used for bronze or silver? where are they camping/staying over as they also have to do that. - the fact you say she knows those canals suggests its not challenging or demanding for her

reality is you seem to think gold dofe is a substitute for the fact your daughter has no GCSEs and doesn't want to resit them

also the 20 conditions no longer exist and were only around because of covid. yes it has to be inclusive but it also has to be challenging and demanding for the level.

the fact she couldn't complete bronze suggests gold is not for her, did she do silver? or did she not complete that one as well?

she also has to do a residential section that you (as with the expedition) can not be involved in. hell the residential can be taken abroad.

yes they have to be inclusive and make adaptions but if she drinks without you around then I'm sorry no DofE leader is going to want to risk taking her with them.

also three threads? accept the reality that this isn't for her

It would still need to be actually compliant though, and it doesn’t sound like that’s OPs intention. Which is also not fair to the other girls she ropes into it.

Yabu your "form" of D Of E doesn't exist. That would change the entire point. It's ok to accept it's not for your child

This is actually a great input.