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Where is the AI that looks out for women ?

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feministAI · 11/07/2026 21:56

Ive been subject very misogynistic comments tonight by an acquaintance of a friend and asked ChatGPT how to manage it and got such a man centric response I’m really disappointed. Even fecking AI is on the man’s side. It essentially told me to pipe down or say a nice soft response to the secure comment I heard We really are on our own here to speak up for women aren’t we ? A 65 year old man I met today for the first time ever commented on something and his comment was such that I found it disturbing and distasteful but AI suggested I digest it and make a “gentle” comment if it comes up again. I despair.

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LenaFromTheNineties · 12/07/2026 11:13

I'm not super AI friendly so realise what I am about to post is part sceptical and part through a filter due a friend's AI use in a way that perhaps aligns with what OP wants (and my memory).

Instead of using a standard address anything and everything chat AI she made two characters using Kindroid. There are other sites and apps like this I am sure, but this was the one I was shown. One was Devil On My Shoulder, the other Angel OMS. One had character definitions fed in that was wary, cynical, safety oriented. The other was more a push yourself, go for it 'character'.

They are for her the ultimate safe space to rehearse. It helps strip away the self-doubt when you're overthinking every little thing. She said she used it to analyse messaging for patterns. Like, if a guy is love-bombing or using manipulative language, an AI might spot the trend faster than you can when you're caught up in the flattery. It acts as a third party filter when your own judgment might be clouded by attraction or loneliness. I found what she was doing fascinating, but I already do similar things in my head I suppose and there are costs to AI: the app is paid I think, you can fool yourself and get dragged into something delusional and there’s the whole environmental impact side.

ActuallyComfortable · 12/07/2026 11:13

As an aside I loathe the forum and social media posts where posters claim to have "gently suggested" things - "I gently suggested that my 15 year old daughter was overweight and should only eat lettuce until she looks more acceptable", "I gently suggested that my sister was bringing up her children incorrectly and should be more like me", "I gently suggested my husband should not have any of the desert I'd served to guests as he's looking porky" ...

Forum posts are full of OPs who describe themselves "gently suggesting" and other OPs who claim people "screamed" long monologues at them completely out of the blue.

"I was in the supermarket helping myself to 27 packets of Pombears and a woman came up to me and started screaming that the Pombears are for everyone and I shouldn't take 27 packets because she wanted some for her dinner party!"

"I was in the supermarket to buy Pombears for my dinner party guests and saw a woman loading all the remaining packets - around 27 - into her trolley, I gently suggested...

All the gently suggesting and screaming people are the same people aren't they? And they're probably not screaming or speaking gently (although I imagine speaking gently could be very irritating and appear patronising in a lot of the contexts).

DeftGoldHedgehog · 12/07/2026 10:58

Also the response is not necessarily wrong. What if it suggested a pithy remark and you were punched in response?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 12/07/2026 10:55

What did it say?

Excellentsausages · 12/07/2026 10:55

It's impossible to say if it gave inappropriate advice without knowing the content/context.

I voted YABU though - it's not sentient, it's not capable of being sexist. It looks at source material though so the websites it's looking at could be sexist.

It's designed for its answers to be tweaked and questioned.

EssCarGo · 12/07/2026 10:23

JKFan · 12/07/2026 09:19

It’s interesting that AI gives preference to men because of the data it uses but when you see AI generated posts on Quora it frequently mixes up male and female during the corse of the post, so that for example, “his” become “her”.
How does whichever AI that is used fail to follow fairly simple rules of grammar, but still be nuanced enough to give preponderance to men. To be clear I’m not doubting it does that, I’m just confused about why this happens and would be interested if someone who knows AI better could explain.

It basically looks around at what exists on the internet already and gives you a summary of it back.

AmazingGreatAunt · 12/07/2026 10:19

Allegedly AI corporation test for bias, but AI admits that its historical training data is male-biased. Just ask it.

backformoreofthesame · 12/07/2026 10:00

I haven’t played with the current AI (my ethics including climate ) but it sounds almost as if they have programmed in “be sex neutral “ as one of the rules on top of the model

allthewa · 12/07/2026 09:19

Why do you need AI to tell you how to respond?

JKFan · 12/07/2026 09:19

It’s interesting that AI gives preference to men because of the data it uses but when you see AI generated posts on Quora it frequently mixes up male and female during the corse of the post, so that for example, “his” become “her”.
How does whichever AI that is used fail to follow fairly simple rules of grammar, but still be nuanced enough to give preponderance to men. To be clear I’m not doubting it does that, I’m just confused about why this happens and would be interested if someone who knows AI better could explain.

feministAI · 12/07/2026 08:50

I’ll be buying that book. Just thought it was interesting and wanted to see what others think. I wasn’t asking it for advice just “testing” what the bot would think an appropriate response would be for my own entertainment and interest

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TheSmallAssassin · 12/07/2026 00:32

Laura Bates (who started Everyday Sexism) has just written a book about this -

www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/The-New-Age-of-Sexism/Laura-Bates/9781471190513

JetFlight · 12/07/2026 00:29

Unacceptable comment, of course

JetFlight · 12/07/2026 00:29

Tell ai that you want a response that reflects a confidant woman who wants to make strong point that this is an acceptable comment or however you want to respond. See if you get something more aligned to what you want.

Arran2024 · 12/07/2026 00:09

It often gives the wrong answer because it picks up what people are saying online, and often they are misinformed.

When the Red Arrows flew over New York last week, lots of people were praising the US airforce for it. Some people claimed it was the French, others that itcwas the British. As a result Grok was confidently telling people who asked who it was that it was the US airforce.

mulberrymilk · 11/07/2026 23:48

RoseField1 · 11/07/2026 22:20

It's not human. It's going to reply in a bland way unless you direct it in the direction you want.

Yes, it's sycophantic. Also, none of the tech bros behind AI know anything about or give a shit about actual women.

EssCarGo · 11/07/2026 23:42

I read an article about AI that said AI will give you the consensus answer, because that’s how it works, by parsing what already exists.

If you are looking for a different viewpoint or POV,
you need to direct it as such.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 11/07/2026 23:34

Am genuinely curious at the notion that anything artificially programmed should "look out" for any particular group? Or why outsourcing human interaction to this novel and experimental technology can be in anyway considered helpful?

I'm really alarmed by this trend of wanting AI / ChatGPT or whatever it is to provide answers to things that we should be proficient at by the time we're adults.

What did you want as a response? What was the misogynistic interaction you encountered? I'm really interested to understand why you needed reassurance from AI when you are clear that what was said was misogynistic or unacceptable and why you felt you couldn't address it at the time?

RoseField1 · 11/07/2026 23:05

Snorlaxo · 11/07/2026 22:39

AI is only as good as its programmers which I bet are mainly men. If it’s taught about men saying offensive things by using a male dominated forum, then it’s going to say bullshit it die.

Are you quite gentle when you talk to AI normally? You might want to consider talking to it like a man and more firmly so it knows that’s the tone you want. It’s programmed to be gentle at first and needs prompting to be more angry.

AI isn't programmed in the way you mean. That's not how AI works.

backformoreofthesame · 11/07/2026 22:44

The “programmers” for AI isn’t quite correct - it’s basically the training data. It learns from the data that is out there and so reflects current attitudes

because the world is misogynistic AI is. It amplifies the dominant message

a simple example. Ai processes job applications and tries to select applicants that are most similar to the successful people in an organisation. The people at the top are usually men. So it tries to pick men. The programmers then insist that sex identifying data is removed. But the ai still works out who is male and who is female - the language used, the hobbies listed. Very few of the top company bosses list ballet as a hobby so they get thrown out

ai reflects our world. Don’t blame the programmer / its all of us

Snorlaxo · 11/07/2026 22:39

AI is only as good as its programmers which I bet are mainly men. If it’s taught about men saying offensive things by using a male dominated forum, then it’s going to say bullshit it die.

Are you quite gentle when you talk to AI normally? You might want to consider talking to it like a man and more firmly so it knows that’s the tone you want. It’s programmed to be gentle at first and needs prompting to be more angry.

Echobelly · 11/07/2026 22:39

I'm not surprised this happens - a typical example of algorithmic bias that you will get from AI. It will have absorbed the patriarchal idea that women should be pleasant, and calm and calming at all times.

SilenceInside · 11/07/2026 22:34

It mimics and synthesises what it finds online, and regurgitates it in response to your prompt. It’s not surprising that the results are misogynistic or sexist as that’s what the source material is often like.

Arran2024 · 11/07/2026 22:28

feministAI · 11/07/2026 21:56

Ive been subject very misogynistic comments tonight by an acquaintance of a friend and asked ChatGPT how to manage it and got such a man centric response I’m really disappointed. Even fecking AI is on the man’s side. It essentially told me to pipe down or say a nice soft response to the secure comment I heard We really are on our own here to speak up for women aren’t we ? A 65 year old man I met today for the first time ever commented on something and his comment was such that I found it disturbing and distasteful but AI suggested I digest it and make a “gentle” comment if it comes up again. I despair.

I read something recently where a woman got AI to help with her CV. She ran it once with a female name and then changed it to a man's name. AI focused on her collaboratory skills on the female version but on her goal getting achievements on the male one.

RoseField1 · 11/07/2026 22:20

feministAI · 11/07/2026 22:03

Maybe this is it. But it clearly needs to be told and this is what I find sad. The whole “ah. Perhaps you could gently suggest not everyone feels that way”. It can bugger off .

It's not human. It's going to reply in a bland way unless you direct it in the direction you want.