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Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

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fluffythecat1 · 11/07/2026 14:25

In the grips of an unprecedentedly hot summer, schools closing, fridges breaking down in many supermarkets, impending drought. How come there is not more popular protest as we experience properly for the first time what the future will hold? It is a problem for global leaders and governments, however I’m surprised that Extinction Rebellion, Insulate Britain, or a similar grassroots radical protest organisation isn’t harnessing the momentum. It doesn’t seem such an abstract issue right now.

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BlackTogetherAgain67 · 12/07/2026 08:15

Elsvieta · 12/07/2026 08:08

Several links in here:

When the right denies the true danger of heatwaves, ask yourself this: whose children’s lives is it willing to risk? | George Monbiot | The Guardian

and one or two examples on this thread - summers are always hot, apparently. Some people are very determined not to learn.

Sorry - this is a total lie and I'm sure you know it is.

Even in his George Monbiot (hardly a good source) article in The Guardian (ditto), there isn't one single example of the right wing press saying the climate isn't changing. The articles he mention are all about the dangers of climate change alarmism - ie the very misinformation you're engaging in.

Summerhillsquare · 12/07/2026 08:12

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 11/07/2026 16:06

Also - literally noone denies climate change.

Everyone can see the climate is changing.

It's just some people are aware that someone in Tunbridge Wells bankrupting themselves by changing their boiler is not going to change the weather.

I'm interested in your sources given how comprehensively wrong you are. Also your motivation to wheel out a dozen anti climate action talking points on social media in such an articulate way. Do tell.

Guidanceplease20 · 12/07/2026 07:20

trapanisky · 11/07/2026 14:49

People are too busy getting ready to jet off on yet another foreign holiday. Flying
from over 30 degree heat to somewhere thousands of miles away with over 30 degree heat just because it’s their holiday.

I don’t see any hope really. Human beings are largely selfish creatures. People only seem to change their behaviour when they are forced to because it’s too late

Agreed

When COVID hit and the world stopped, I said if the international community didnt use it as a starter to plan to reverse climate change, they never would.

Dont think it was even mentioned.

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 12/07/2026 07:10

Elsvieta · 11/07/2026 23:48

Lots of people deny it, unfortunately. We've seen it in the right-wing press these last couple of weeks: "We had a very long hot summer in 1976, it just happens sometimes, climate change is a scam" etc. It's still presented as something you can "believe" in, or not. Which is a big part of the problem.

If you're going to say this you need to provide a link to the right wing press saying the climate isn't changing in the last two weeks

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · 12/07/2026 00:15

I quite like the warm weather! Much better than years where it’s just relentless rain.. so nice to be able to reliably eat outside etc.
reckon people just like to complain tbh

Namechangingregularly · 11/07/2026 23:51

backformoreofthesame · 11/07/2026 17:00

But no where near this hot , and not hot every year , more like once in a generation heatwave. Like saying the tide comes in every day when faced with a tsunami.

now thousands are dying across Europe because of the excess heat. The numbers for the UK are not yet available but they are happening

The cost to us to retrofit air con and shutters to homes and schools and hospitals will be immense , the cost of coping with climate variability , excess rain , crop failures - it’s the rich capitalists wet dream. They walked us into this mess and they are the only ones who will profit.

speak with your wallet because it’s the only effective language

slash your spending because there is barely anything you can buy that doesn’t harm the climate

cut meat and dairy to a minimum , cut your flights and your car usage , probably change your lifestyle completely. Minimise your gas and electricity usage ( solar excepted ). Learn to get enjoyment and value from anything but an Amazon habit. Stop steaming movies. Stop wasting energy generating cute ai images

The messages have been consistent for decades as to what consumers can do. Less outrage , more action. Action now will saves lives and your own money later

Alright chicken licken

whoremembers · 11/07/2026 23:51

Yanbu - everyone's just too hot to do anything about it

PollyBell · 11/07/2026 23:49

So what are individuals doing to help, leaving it to everyone else?

Elsvieta · 11/07/2026 23:48

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 11/07/2026 16:06

Also - literally noone denies climate change.

Everyone can see the climate is changing.

It's just some people are aware that someone in Tunbridge Wells bankrupting themselves by changing their boiler is not going to change the weather.

Lots of people deny it, unfortunately. We've seen it in the right-wing press these last couple of weeks: "We had a very long hot summer in 1976, it just happens sometimes, climate change is a scam" etc. It's still presented as something you can "believe" in, or not. Which is a big part of the problem.

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/07/2026 19:07

ObelixtheGaul · 11/07/2026 18:33

The UK has substantially decreased emissions by shunting industry elsewhere. It's changed nothing on a global scale, because not enough of us have changed our habits or expectations for a comfortable lifestyle.

Most of the 'solutions' are really about 'what can we invent/do to reduce the problem whilst keeping all the convenience of the modern lifestyle'.

A PP was correct - pissing about with electric cars and not using plastic straws isn't going to achieve much, but it's what you end up with when society has become so entrenched in a way of life that we don't want to give it up.

When the government makes some effort to regulate big business, the public moan about increased prices, point the finger at China's emissions whilst taking advantage of the cheap stuff from there.

We moan that public transport isn't good enough, but it isn't good because it isn't used enough. People don't want it. They want their cars. The bus is never going to go from your door to the door of your destination.

The fact is, we all say, 'it's not us, it's big this that or the other, but big this that or the other is driven by consumers. We want what they sell, and if any government attempts to restrict that, most of the population have a hissy fit over it, whilst in the next breath expecting the government to 'do something'.

The magic bullet that means we can carry on as we are doesn't exist. What it would take to really change the outcome is for every single one of us to revert to very simple, off-grid lifestyles. But very few of us (myself included) are truly willing to do that. We pat ourselves on the back if we don't drive (like me) or we have an electric car, or we use beeswax wrap instead of cling film. It's not anywhere near enough, but we are 'doing our bit' and it's big this, that or the other, greedy governments, etc, that is the real problem.
It isn't. Well, it is, but not in the way we want it to be. Not in the way that lets the rest of us off the hook. Because big business and greedy governments didn't drop from outer space and make us adopt this lifestyle. We ran to it, we bought it, we kept it growing and growing, we wanted, we needed, we demanded.

Environmental activists are trying to do something, yes. But they are still operating on that principle that the governments and businesses are somehow separate entities that have forced us against our will to live this way, rather than seeing the co-conspirators most of us truly are.

You make many good points.

Yes the UK has exported emissions to China, but has also reduced emissions. Over 50% of electricity production is now from renewables. It seems that ULEZ in London has reduced pollution too.

Regarding people not using public transport, I think that is often because the service is so poor or the price so high (or both) that it is unviable. You can’t go on a train around this neck of the woods on a Sunday without encountering a rail replacement service, which usually takes 3 times as long but (bizarrely) costs the same.

Morepositivemum · 11/07/2026 18:48

People choose what to be upset over- they want holidays, fast fashion, party decorations, temu and chatgpt

lazymaw · 11/07/2026 18:46

Is Il nino thing not in part to blame this summer?

sugarandcyanide · 11/07/2026 18:45

JohnnyLuLus · 11/07/2026 18:32

China are producing the majority of the crap the rest of the world is intent on consuming. We've outsourced it own industries to China, but we still consume those products. The Chinese aren't to blame, Western consumption is.

I know and I agree with you, I wasn't solely blaming China.

My point was people giving up their holidays is going to do almost nothing and I think we're at a point where this isn't reversible realistically.

People aren't going to stop consuming while stuff is so easily available. People aren't going to give up modern conveniences.

Electricity and heating are the biggest carbon producers. If the climate keeps getting warmer we'll rely more than ever on AC in summer, and in winter people still need to heat their homes.

It's too expensive to move away from gas and oil entirely, especially in a cost of living crisis. Even if it wasn't expensive it would take time do do this.

Brynhill · 11/07/2026 18:44

Sherararara · 11/07/2026 17:07

Define unprecedented.

NASA has defined it: The rate of change since the mid-20th century is unprecedented over millennia.
Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.1 It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

Evidence

Evidence - NASA Science

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/#footnote_1

Ithinkhesamerdog · 11/07/2026 18:34

JohnnyLuLus · 11/07/2026 18:32

China are producing the majority of the crap the rest of the world is intent on consuming. We've outsourced it own industries to China, but we still consume those products. The Chinese aren't to blame, Western consumption is.

Exactly! And it all gets shipped here on huge energy guzzling container ships that belch out disgusting plumes of pollution

ObelixtheGaul · 11/07/2026 18:33

dizzydizzydizzy · 11/07/2026 17:55

it’s not fair to blame climate policies for our economic issues. The Ukraine war, the pandemic, energy prices, inflation and Brexit are all way more significant factors.

The Uk has also substantially reduced emissions so saying nothing has been achieved is inaccurate.

Dismissing Extinction Rebellion activists as hypocrites who know nothing is also an unreasonable sweeping generalization.i’m not saying that this does not apply to any of them but I seriously doubt it applies to most or all.

i do agree with you about we need to focus on what we can do to adapt.

OP, I totally agree with you .

Edited

The UK has substantially decreased emissions by shunting industry elsewhere. It's changed nothing on a global scale, because not enough of us have changed our habits or expectations for a comfortable lifestyle.

Most of the 'solutions' are really about 'what can we invent/do to reduce the problem whilst keeping all the convenience of the modern lifestyle'.

A PP was correct - pissing about with electric cars and not using plastic straws isn't going to achieve much, but it's what you end up with when society has become so entrenched in a way of life that we don't want to give it up.

When the government makes some effort to regulate big business, the public moan about increased prices, point the finger at China's emissions whilst taking advantage of the cheap stuff from there.

We moan that public transport isn't good enough, but it isn't good because it isn't used enough. People don't want it. They want their cars. The bus is never going to go from your door to the door of your destination.

The fact is, we all say, 'it's not us, it's big this that or the other, but big this that or the other is driven by consumers. We want what they sell, and if any government attempts to restrict that, most of the population have a hissy fit over it, whilst in the next breath expecting the government to 'do something'.

The magic bullet that means we can carry on as we are doesn't exist. What it would take to really change the outcome is for every single one of us to revert to very simple, off-grid lifestyles. But very few of us (myself included) are truly willing to do that. We pat ourselves on the back if we don't drive (like me) or we have an electric car, or we use beeswax wrap instead of cling film. It's not anywhere near enough, but we are 'doing our bit' and it's big this, that or the other, greedy governments, etc, that is the real problem.
It isn't. Well, it is, but not in the way we want it to be. Not in the way that lets the rest of us off the hook. Because big business and greedy governments didn't drop from outer space and make us adopt this lifestyle. We ran to it, we bought it, we kept it growing and growing, we wanted, we needed, we demanded.

Environmental activists are trying to do something, yes. But they are still operating on that principle that the governments and businesses are somehow separate entities that have forced us against our will to live this way, rather than seeing the co-conspirators most of us truly are.

Ithinkhesamerdog · 11/07/2026 18:33

Meadowfinch · 11/07/2026 18:01

Governments have known about this for decades and choose to ignore it - at their peril.

I've adopted my own approach. I have a grey water system so my veggie beds and greenhouse are well watered legally.
I have retained a lot of trees so our garden is shady and moist (and stuffed full of wildlife hiding from the sun).
I cut and dry my own wood for heat and to minimise gas use. I cycle wherever possible to cut diesel use, and improve my health and that of my wallet.
I eat veggie several times a week, grow my own fruit & veg, keep bees to help with local pollination, and recycle everything possible. I've increased my house insulation to improve efficiency. At some point I will install solar panels to heat water

I can only fix what is in my control.

This is what I do, I sort the things in my control. They mainly all help the bank balance too which is helpful!

We don't buy much "stuff" and pretty much all our furniture and clothes and books are ancient /second hand . I re-sole shoes rather than buying new ones. We haven't replaced our totally serviceable but not at all fashionable kitchens and bathrooms. We both drive modest (small, very economic) cars, as sparingly as possible. (Some driving is unavoidable due to DH job and my disability) . We have solar panels. We keep the garden green with plenty of plants and no awful AstroTurf/hard surfacing. We give things away if we don't need them.

I am sure we aren't perfect but we do as much as we are able to. We do have one air-conditioned room now because excessive heat makes me incredibly/dangerously ill. But the energy consumption is covered by the solar panels. And we shut all blinds etc to keep the house as cool as possible

We could afford to do all the house upgrades and buy big cars etc but it's nice having financial security.

JohnnyLuLus · 11/07/2026 18:32

sugarandcyanide · 11/07/2026 18:24

Agree with this 100%. Activists cry about people flying once or twice a year and driving instead of getting the train. Aviation contributes 2 or 3% of emissions.

Meanwhile China are producing 30% of the world's carbon emissions and according to predictions it hasn't even peaked yet, despite the work they're doing to reduce them.

We need to adapt to this, it's not going to go away.

China are producing the majority of the crap the rest of the world is intent on consuming. We've outsourced it own industries to China, but we still consume those products. The Chinese aren't to blame, Western consumption is.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 11/07/2026 18:31

Adapt @sugarandcyanide ?

You do know the prediction is that we could be hitting 45C in only 30 years?

We can't currently even fix burst water pipes or potholes.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/blog/2026/uk-could-see-45c-by-2056-scientists-reflect-on-1976-heatwave-anniversary

JohnnyLuLus · 11/07/2026 18:31

People are too selfish. They'll complain about the heat, but not actually want to change their habits. I don't believe anyone should fly unless it's an absolute necessity, but so few people are willing to give up their foreign holidays. People don't want to use public transport or cut meat consumption, or shop sustainably.
Everyone wants cheap consumption, and more and more "stuff". With this prevailing attitude the planet is fucked.

sugarandcyanide · 11/07/2026 18:24

BlackTogetherAgain67 · 11/07/2026 14:31

Not surprised really - it was always a fashionable trend for the media and the Extinction Rebellion people were never interested in the environment - whenever they were interviewed about it they showed themselves to be hypocrites who knew nothing about the issue.

We need to focus on what we can do to adapt to a changing environment.

The framework up until recently was about changing our behaviour in a futile attempt to stop the changing climate - the result of that was we bankrupted our economy while changing absolutely nothing else.

Agree with this 100%. Activists cry about people flying once or twice a year and driving instead of getting the train. Aviation contributes 2 or 3% of emissions.

Meanwhile China are producing 30% of the world's carbon emissions and according to predictions it hasn't even peaked yet, despite the work they're doing to reduce them.

We need to adapt to this, it's not going to go away.

redboxer321 · 11/07/2026 18:22

UniquePinkSwan · 11/07/2026 17:06

Vegan is not environmentally friendly. Your veg travels thousands of miles. My meat comes from a farm 2 miles down the road.

You eat only meat?

Theolittle · 11/07/2026 18:13

susiedaisy1912 · 11/07/2026 17:57

I agree with you. Another thing that pisses me off is the hose pipe ban after a short heatwave. Wtf. Water companies should have been investing billions into new reservoirs for years now. Instead we have one bout of hotter than normal weather and there’s a hose pipe ban. What resilience do we have as far as fresh drinking water goes if the summers get hotter and longer.

Yes but we sold water to private companies who do as little as they can get away with to pay profits to shareholders 🤷‍♀️