Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

It needn't, though. It only costs that much to maintain our current lifestyles in a more green way. It's that magic bullet thinking again, that we can tech our way out of this, have our cake and eat it, still do what we have been doing for generations.

I agree with what @KatiePricesKnickers says.
I realise we need numbers to maintain the economy as it is but who wants that? It relies on continual growth. That is unsustainable. May people are miserable going to work every day to earn a living. Money, as they say, is at the root of all evil. No one ever has enough money. Money doesn't buy you happiness. And so on...
Worth noting: no other species on the planet has an economy. It's not working that well for us either. Perhaps we might think about changing it.

That's nice

The Paris Agreement is still the goal. But there have been political and public issues (not everyone agrees) and you cannot discount the current worldwide economic crisis. Developing a greener infrastructure costs $4-7 TRILLION annually across the world to meet net zero targets. But political leaderships and priorities are not static. The economy is not stable. While countries are spending more than ever to implement changes, the perception is that things have stagnated.

Truthfully I couldn't care less

Exactly. We (and other developed nations) already have a falling population. But in other parts of the world birth rates are sky rocketing. The UN estimates world population will be 10.3 billion by mid 2080s.
We’ll reach 9 billion by 2037. The highest increases will be in Sub- Saharan Africa, where many of the world’s poorest countries are.

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/population

I agree, most of the climate activists were simply anarchist rent-a-mob types (Greta included) who are now occupied elsewhere. So its not surprising.

What really surprises me is that there are still loons who insist climate change is not real.

I think the point of not having children is that they won't have to suffer when things get bad. That’s my fear - we’ve had such lucky privileged lives - even the poorest in the UK in general are some of the luckiest people ever to have lived. Most people don’t know suffering, we see it on TV and become blasé to it and turn a blind eye. With climate change it will come to lots of us.

There will be 10 billion people on the planet, we can just keep importing them, like we do now, if and when needed.

It’s a shame people won’t accept the issue is over population. 10 billion people, even if they live like saints, are going to have a massive impact on climate change.

We should be praying for some sort of reset or global catastrophe, like a sun blotting volcano eruption or a much, much more severe pandemic. Because governments are not going to do anything about population growth, the NEED growth to feed the economic pyramid.

In any case, I think it’s too late for this global warming event, the damage has already been done.

Studied this decades ago for my degree. Simply, there are tonnes of people who don't believe it. Tonnes who think it's reversible and can be fixed / dealt with later. I am firmly in it's real and the timing point has long gone camp. So I don't get upset or worry. My take away point from my degree is we are fucked so made my peace a long time ago.

Plus sooooo many people blame the youngsters for this like filthiness it's everyone under 30s fault. I think the industrial revolution might have played a part.

Let's see if people belive once we hit 40 degrees with flooding being the norm. And what then? Turn back time? Eat what?

I’m not enjoying it at all thanks and I know lots of other people who are not either.

This is part of the problem, the minimisers. Not you @Flazzled but those who keep saying “it’s just a bit of hot weather” and are spectacularly missing the bigger picture.

That only leads to economic disaster in the uk. The impact on climate change would be minimal

The single best thing you can do is not have children. If you already have children, encourage them now to have any.

This. China is having its Industrial Revolution- we had ours, and it changed our society forever. We had the luxury of not knowing what it did to the environment.

Disappointed and angry, but not at all surprised. People generally look after their perceived short term personal interests and are generally unwilling to make even the slightest sacrifice for the greater good, or even the future welfare of their own children and grandchildren. See also pension triple lock.

Because people fundamentally don’t want to change their lifestyle or sacrifice anything to reduce their impact. Everyone is relying on the government to do something but ultimately it’s everyone’s responsibility. I get it, it’s not easy to stop things like flying. But there are other things you can do to have an impact. I only learnt recently just what a huge impact beef, prawns and dairy have in terms of carbon footprint so reducing or removing those from your diet is a fairly easy change. I think we are all guilty of feeling like it’s pointless to make small changes but it does all help.

Unfortunately we live in the era of individualism, consumerism and buying fast fashion and cheap temu tat so I think we are fucked. Well I say we, its future generations really.

@Darker ”The endless wars and the race to promote AI has me in despair.”

It’s the latest innovation. There was a race to coal fired power stations, a race to build cars, planes, boats, washing machines etc etc.

As long as the impact of data centers is minimized ( and UK planning laws will ensure this ) I don’t see the issue.
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Yep agree completely.

The articles he mentions are all peddling the lie that there's nothing to be alarmed about.

Monbiot is by far the best source in UK journalism of accurate information on the climate crisis. And the Guardian one of the few papers not pandering to business interests that are invested in climate denialism.

The endless wars and the race to promote AI has me in despair.

Also the inference that it’s individuals who bear the responsibility.

We need globally coordinated action.

But it seems to be billionaires who have the most influence. People who make their money from consumption and conflict, and who can buy their way out of climate-related inconveniences.

It's not about complying though is it? It's about personal choice.

There will always be arseholes who start wars, want to go to Mars or are Elon Musk. My mum used to say 'if someone else jumps off a bridge you don't have to'.

Thoughtful adaptation based on personal circumstances - thanks for laying out what's possible. This approach is exactly what's suggested in the deliberately provocatively titled essay 'Collapse now and beat the rush'. It advocates embracing a simpler lifestyle focussed on building future resilience. Well worth a read.

There are too many people on the planet.
In about the last 25 years, the population went from 6 billion to 8 billion.
In another 30 odd years we’ll be at 10 billion.
I think people are pissing in the wind thinking anything they do is going to have any impact.

Just Stop Fucking!

If I say no-one is denying that the climate is changing then the onus is on you to provide evidence that someone, ie in the press this year, is saying this!

I'm still waiting..