Anyone else surprised that there isn’t more uproar about global warming right now?

Yeah, this.

I recycle, I’ve only owned a car for 7 months of my adult life, I don’t have air con, I turn my thermostat down.

I’m not going to stop recycling and taking public transport where possible, but honestly, what’s the point of me rinsing out yoghurt pots and milk bottles when China is contributing to 35% of emissions and 100 million plastic utensils are used every DAY in America*, most of which can’t be recycled?

*source: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/carrying-your-own-fork-spoon-help-plastic-crisis

Human fertility rates are dropping, a trend which is likely to accelerate.

When a species stops reproducing of its own accord, something is generally very wrong.

We are a little busy dealing with the rise of fascism in the United States.

She knows when she’s beat.

Greta and her gang have moved onto new causes now such as Palestine, climate change is so last year.

Greenpeace have been doing the ‘heat wave brought to you by Shell’ campaign.

I don’t think it’s about protesting as such, but about voting for politicians who have the environment high up on the agenda. That would force all politicians to put it in the agenda.

I don't think protesting will do anything really unless the protest has a tangible goal or demand and I can't really work out what that should be. I'm skeptical that half the stuff they tell us is better than carbon will end up being worse in some other way (mining minerals for EV batteries for example) and it could all just be a scam to sell us different/new stuff and make people pay more for it, not to mention that all the existing stuff gets trashed which seems wasteful. I've heard a few ppl say the only viable option is nuclear but I don't really understand enough about it to know if that's true or not.

Well those in power, including Ed Milliband, are making numerous trips of private jets and have a bigger carbon footprint than I will ever have in my lifetime
A rainforest was chopped into to make a 4 lane motorway to hold a climate change conference
Dale Vince donated to the Labour Party and has had £££ in return to cover the countryside in solar panels which could be on roof tops
And they are excited about bringing data centres and AI to the UK, using vast amounts of water and power
It those than can change things are not leading by example the rest of us cant do much

For me, personally, I think its because so many of us have gone to considerable effort & expensive to live a greener life and nothing has changed. Which isn't to say we should stop making green-choices, but it does highlight that we need national and international progressive policies far and beyond what's being done now.

The billionaires, oil companies and massive data companies still bring considerable political pressure to bear.

And come winter, half the UK will complain about the rain (also a symptom of climate change) and forget all about the heat and wildfires...

What uproar would you like to see?

The vast majority of contribution to climate change are corporations, including state corporations. Throwing dyed powder at Stonehenge or blocking traffic on motorways is not going to impact them.

I also think there is a lot of conflicting information and people do get burnt out that nothing we can do is enough, nothing has a clear impact. I mean, I have solar panels and a heat pump, great, but then we can get into the ethics of mining the minerals particularly for the solar battery and is the push for home generation more about the economic boost to those industries compared to environmental impact. I've read more than once that for a house like mine which had electric heaters from the 70s with no gas, it's a sensible swap, but for many, it's more debateable whether the waste of replacement overrides any environmental benefit.

It's hard to know what to prioritise, and it's hard to know what kind of uproar would actually have meaningful impact when those corporations doing most of the polluting have had the resources to make themselves well protected. I'm not surprised there isn't more with these issues and the issues around the right to protest.

I am happy to recycle

i have an EV

i am happy to cut air travel

i am happy to boycott SHEIN/ Temu/ other manufacturers from half way round the world.

do I want the pension that I’ve paid £1k a month of my hard earned money into to be worth zero when I retire in 20 years? Fuck off

do I want my house that I’ve paid average 5% interest on the loan for 35 years to be worthless? Fuck off.

ask people who are desperate to do something whether it includes losing everything they saved for and having no ability to earn anything more and see whether you get honest answers.

I think people have been put off protesting because the right to protest has been compromised.

This. It seems a lot of people are more interested in the protesting than the cause. I was on a station platform with a group of protesters headed for London and all they could talk about was how many followers they had on Facebook.

Well, they tried all the doom-mongering a few years ago and it got no traction and fizzled out. The general population just doesn’t care, for better or worse.

I mean, I can speak for myself, I could not care less. Not because I don’t think it’s real or I don’t believe Bad Things could happen, but because I’m busy thinking about other things. I suspect I’m in the majority.

Well it’s hard to know for sure, but we might get one following the closure of the Strait of Hormuz. By “we” I mean humanity, but it’ll be the poorest people in the world who can’t afford food so they don’t really count in Western eyes 🤷‍♀️

And North America don’t even want to. So it’s just little ole Europe trying to lead the way by bullying and taxing anything and anyone not doing what they consider to be green.

I agree with you OP. It’s shocking really. Sleep walking into disaster for future generations.

We don’t need to blame anyone in particular, we are all guilty just by virtue of existing.
It’s also futile to try and curtail people.

The Paris agreement will achieve nothing in the grand scale of things.
We need a proper humanitarian disaster!

Its time we stopped blaming Asia. Canada, USA and Australia all have higher emissions per capital than China. UK has double the emissions per capital than India.

People are looking at emissions as a country so of course bigger countries have more total. Global warming ain't respecting borders.

People can’t even adhere to a hosepipe ban because “I pay for water so I’ll use it” mentality. We are in the main absolutely irredeemable animals.

We need to seriously consider banning pets. A medium dog has more environmental impact than running 2 SUVs

Exactly. You’ve only got to look at the state of the rivers in Asia and Africa. That’s how they dispose of their waste, flush it out to the ocean.
India is a vast country and with 1.5 billion people, it can counteract any green policies implemented in Europe and North America on its own, let alone adding on China (1.4 billion) and Africa (1.6 billion).

It’s farcical to think Europe and North America going green will achieve anything regards to climate change.

Exactly my experience when talking with colleagues from all over Asia. As I said earlier in the thread they just laugh when we talk about global warming and not have ac. Their countries would literally grind to a halt and become largely uninhabitable without ac everywhere.

Outside of Europe no-one cares. None of the countries I've been in in Asia in the last 3 years have any concept of carbon-neutral. Its not a thing in 90% of the world.