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Theyreeatingthedogs · 11/07/2026 12:55

I find them a bit meh. I'm happy for them to do their own thing if they leave me alone. I think this is overstepping. Do vegans not have pets? After all, keeping pets is just forcing animals to live and be controlled by humans.

BBC News - Darlington birds of prey event cancelled after vegan groups' concern - BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6214l61604o?app-referrer=deep-link

A bird handler is holding a hawk on his gloved hand. A blurred crowd is stood behind him. The hawk has food clasped in its beak.

Darlington birds of prey event cancelled after vegan groups' concern

Hopetown Darlington stops the event, which had been planned for 31 July.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6214l61604o?app-referrer=deep-link

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Stillso · 13/07/2026 21:21

Yetanotherone12 · 13/07/2026 21:13

So if something doesn’t happen to you it never happens?

great if everyone you encounter is non judgemental and keeps their thoughts to themselves.

some of us don’t live in that world, and we do experience judgement. Even if you don’t.

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what a bizarre interpretation of

Not something I have encountered

Trivium4all · 13/07/2026 21:16

redboxer321 · 13/07/2026 14:24

@Trivium4all
My take is a decision had to be made. There would be no time or resources to conduct an investigation of any meaning. And while I agree that it is poor journalism - pure clickbait - I don't think the BBC needs to report if an investigation had take place.

As for the place you visited, to me it's still a prison. A nicer one so it would seem but a prison nonetheless. And to be fair, you only got a snapshot of the place.

Sure, but if one is going to report it, it would be good to know on what basis the decision was made, other than, "someone complained". Also tbf, you don't know how much time I spent at this centre, to categorise the course as a "snapshot". As a whole, I'm really not keen on birds in cages, in the sense of e.g. the classic canary or parrot, and I try to be very careful where I get my eggs from. All I can say is I was expecting to have more of a problem with the falconry centre than I did, once I observed in greater detail how it worked and how the falconers and the birds interacted.

Yetanotherone12 · 13/07/2026 21:13

Stillso · 13/07/2026 20:40

Not something I have encountered

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So if something doesn’t happen to you it never happens?

great if everyone you encounter is non judgemental and keeps their thoughts to themselves.

some of us don’t live in that world, and we do experience judgement. Even if you don’t.

backformoreofthesame · 13/07/2026 20:43

Stillso · 13/07/2026 20:40

Not something I have encountered

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I amnt even veggie and I have had this when I choose not to eat meat for whatever reason

Stillso · 13/07/2026 20:40

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 20:38

Some people are curious but some are rude. Last one was telling me I don't get enough protein and I should eat meat.

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Not something I have encountered

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 20:38

Stillso · 13/07/2026 20:34

i have been asked this before, and I just see it as they’re curious. Not judgey

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Some people are curious but some are rude. Last one was telling me I don't get enough protein and I should eat meat.

Stillso · 13/07/2026 20:34

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 20:27

I don't judge anyone. Life is too short to be negative. However when ever I mention I am vegetarian I am asked how I live on just vegetables and no protein if I say I don't eat fish or meat.

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i have been asked this before, and I just see it as they’re curious. Not judgey

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 20:30

BackToLurk · 13/07/2026 18:21

Isn’t it lovely though? How when you’re veggie or vegan you discover just how many people are qualified nutritionists/dieticians. Truly inspiring.

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Especially when they say that they don't eat hardly any vegetables only protein and carbs.

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 20:27

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:22

I am a vegetarian

I judge no one for their food choices
and I have never felt judged for my food choices

I don’t think that’s a coincidence

I don't judge anyone. Life is too short to be negative. However when ever I mention I am vegetarian I am asked how I live on just vegetables and no protein if I say I don't eat fish or meat.

SqueakyFromme · 13/07/2026 19:26

redboxer321 · 12/07/2026 20:10

How very embarrassing for you, my love. You do know that you actually posted that and this is not some strange dream? I hope one day you will look back and cringe at what you've posted on this thread but somehow I doubt that will ever happen.

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I thought exactly the same, I was hoping for just once someone didn't trot out that tired old 'joke' you know it NEVER fails to cracks ones ribs! But there it is lame AF I think I saw it quoted five times on one thread once 💤

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:43

Yetanotherone12 · 13/07/2026 18:35

Try being teetotal.

People will judge. You only have to look at all the threads started by newly pregnant women on how to hide that they’re not drinking. Because it’s not acceptable to just not, for no reason.

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Amongst my friends most of us are tee total or very moderate drinkers. Can’t remember the last time i saw anyone more than mildly pissed tbh.

Yetanotherone12 · 13/07/2026 18:35

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:22

I am a vegetarian

I judge no one for their food choices
and I have never felt judged for my food choices

I don’t think that’s a coincidence

Try being teetotal.

People will judge. You only have to look at all the threads started by newly pregnant women on how to hide that they’re not drinking. Because it’s not acceptable to just not, for no reason.

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:22

I am a vegetarian

I judge no one for their food choices
and I have never felt judged for my food choices

I don’t think that’s a coincidence

BackToLurk · 13/07/2026 18:21

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 18:08

Not any more but it happens with so many different people.

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Isn’t it lovely though? How when you’re veggie or vegan you discover just how many people are qualified nutritionists/dieticians. Truly inspiring.

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 18:09

Not any more but it happens with so many different people.

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 18:08

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:07

These are people that you repeatedly eat with?

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Not any more but it happens with so many different people.

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:07

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 17:08

I not a vegan but a vegetarian. Everytime it comes up during a meal or planning to go out for food it's like I'm trying to turn people veggie. I'm bored of people asking me why and do I still eat fish, what about chicken you must like chicken. It's boring engaging with people who eat meat and cannot understand why people are vegetarian or vegan. I try to understand why people eat what they do but I'm becoming less tolerant of people who don't want to understand and question choices.

These are people that you repeatedly eat with?

Stillso · 13/07/2026 18:06

Gloriia · 13/07/2026 13:21

People who don't care about the welfare and horrific suffering of animals do disgust me. So what?

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is every single one of your friends and family vegan @Gloriia ?

backformoreofthesame · 13/07/2026 17:17

Werhere · 13/07/2026 11:33

There isn’t a correlation between horrible people, judgy people , arrogant people and diet that I have noticed

@Gloriia has explicitly and repeatedly said she does judge meat eaters and has very much expressed her disgust at them

Yes but you would have to prove that a majority of meat eaters are like that and that the majority of vegans are not like that to make a generalisation

there is certainly a loud bunch of meat eaters who are not pleasant around other peoples food choices. Whether that’s the dominant vibe I am less sure

Fleeeee · 13/07/2026 17:08

I not a vegan but a vegetarian. Everytime it comes up during a meal or planning to go out for food it's like I'm trying to turn people veggie. I'm bored of people asking me why and do I still eat fish, what about chicken you must like chicken. It's boring engaging with people who eat meat and cannot understand why people are vegetarian or vegan. I try to understand why people eat what they do but I'm becoming less tolerant of people who don't want to understand and question choices.

redboxer321 · 13/07/2026 14:24

@Trivium4all
My take is a decision had to be made. There would be no time or resources to conduct an investigation of any meaning. And while I agree that it is poor journalism - pure clickbait - I don't think the BBC needs to report if an investigation had take place.

As for the place you visited, to me it's still a prison. A nicer one so it would seem but a prison nonetheless. And to be fair, you only got a snapshot of the place.

Trivium4all · 13/07/2026 14:05

redboxer321 · 13/07/2026 13:44

Just posting this.
I am sure people will be able to poke holes in the research but it's just for balance.
Why anybody would think it is ok for people to 'handle' these birds, never mind all the other things that go on, is beyond me.
But there again, I'm just another fussy, preachy vegan.

Tether and Torment | Freedom for Animals

If the centre at which I took the course were anything like the points described in this article, then I would agree. But I'm not in the UK, and here, these things are very strictly regulated. My point about the article in the OP was, however, that it sounds as though no investigation was done as to the particular circumstances, and the organisers just folded because someone complained loudly enough. If an investigation did happen, then it's just sloppy journalism not to report it.

YesIKnowThatThankyou · 13/07/2026 13:56

redboxer321 · 13/07/2026 13:44

Just posting this.
I am sure people will be able to poke holes in the research but it's just for balance.
Why anybody would think it is ok for people to 'handle' these birds, never mind all the other things that go on, is beyond me.
But there again, I'm just another fussy, preachy vegan.

Tether and Torment | Freedom for Animals

The unexamined life…
Agree with the defence/attack comment that many meat eaters have.

redboxer321 · 13/07/2026 13:44

Just posting this.
I am sure people will be able to poke holes in the research but it's just for balance.
Why anybody would think it is ok for people to 'handle' these birds, never mind all the other things that go on, is beyond me.
But there again, I'm just another fussy, preachy vegan.

Tether and Torment | Freedom for Animals

Tether and Torment

Investigation into Bird of Prey Zoos in the UK. Read our report, published June 2018.

https://www.freedomforanimals.org.uk/tether-and-torment

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