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Ex applied to deduct travel costs from child maintenance

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greentent86 · 11/07/2026 11:19

AIBU to be pissed, even though I know it’s technically allowed?

I live where I always have, with our child. I have never moved.

Ex lives a significant distance away now, his choice.

Has had sporadic involvement with our child since birth, now we have a court order that he has every other weekend.

Within days if the court order, he’s applied to CMS to vary the payment for “special expenses”… he’s claiming £70 a week in travel costs.

I do get a decent maintenance payment compared to many people, but a loss of over £300 a month is going to be very difficult. I work full time but my job isn’t well paid, and do all the day to day care of our child, pay for nursery etc.

Ex was financial controlling and harassed me over CMS for years, this all came out in court and was noted by the judge.

For what it’s worth, my ex is in a well paid job, has a house worth 7 figures, drives a large car worth 6 figures, has investment properties etc. he isn’t hard up.

I know there’s nothing I can do about it but AIBU to feel the system is really unfair on resident parents.

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racierach · 15/07/2026 08:00

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 22:05

It’s so difficult though mine is blatantly advertising a 30 grand a year. Business on top of his salary and social media posts aren’t sufficient proof apparently.

I think it works when they have rental properties but don’t actually take the rental income etc.

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 22:05

racierach · 14/07/2026 21:12

Please Google notional income CMS as a lot of people aren’t aware of this.

basically if he has an asset with a value of more than £31,250 they will calculate CMS at 8%

It’s so difficult though mine is blatantly advertising a 30 grand a year. Business on top of his salary and social media posts aren’t sufficient proof apparently.

racierach · 14/07/2026 21:12

Please Google notional income CMS as a lot of people aren’t aware of this.

basically if he has an asset with a value of more than £31,250 they will calculate CMS at 8%

OnlyHasEyesForLoki · 14/07/2026 19:05

I think you should ask nursery to bill him on his drop off and pick up days. It’ll only be 4 days a month? but you’d be making a point and not be having to have the whole bill assigned to you

greentent86 · 14/07/2026 18:55

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 18:47

You're right, forgive me for going off on a tangent. I wasn't really addressing what I wrote to the OP at all, more expressing my frustration at how Mumsnet always decides Dads are deadbeats rather than try to understand the issues they face that might drive their behaviour. I mean how many people on this thread alone assumed he was pulling a fast one by declaring his travel expenses per week? When that is exactly what the CMS require. How many couldn't work out he does indeed by the OP's own admission drive 400 miles per month? I'm sure there are many, many deadbeat Dads. But I also like to believe there are many, many who are not.

If you care to read, I have explained that the situation is quite the opposite here. It was his choice not to be present in our child’s life, his choice to move away, his choice not to contribute so that I had to go to CMS, I’ve explained he isn’t hard up or struggling to “buy pizza or ice cream” more than once.

You are clearly passionate about your view but you have derailed my thread, you are welcome to start your own and share your views there. Your view isn’t even based off anything I’ve said on here.

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Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 18:47

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:39

Except that none of this is based on anything OP has actually said. I agree there are two sides to every story but the variance in yours equates to the OP coming on MN and telling a pack of lies.

You're right, forgive me for going off on a tangent. I wasn't really addressing what I wrote to the OP at all, more expressing my frustration at how Mumsnet always decides Dads are deadbeats rather than try to understand the issues they face that might drive their behaviour. I mean how many people on this thread alone assumed he was pulling a fast one by declaring his travel expenses per week? When that is exactly what the CMS require. How many couldn't work out he does indeed by the OP's own admission drive 400 miles per month? I'm sure there are many, many deadbeat Dads. But I also like to believe there are many, many who are not.

greentent86 · 14/07/2026 18:40

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 18:22

Finally someone gets it!!!

Travel costs are not insignificant.

The reduction you get is peanuts. It really isn't worth fighting over.

Besides, you don't have to use CMS.

Use CMS, follow the CMS rules. Some rules work in your favour, some don't.

If I didn’t use CMS, he wouldn’t contribute towards our child’s life at all.

I think you need to start your own thread because none of your comments have had any relevance to anything I’ve posted.

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greentent86 · 14/07/2026 18:38

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:41

Spot on. If I had £1 for every thread I’ve read on MN where the OP has posted exactly this…………………

This is exactly what it is. He isn’t available weekdays because he works. I also work full time and have to use childcare. He isn’t available holidays because of work, I again use childcare or holidays clubs or take annual leave (if I have any left after days taken for dc illness etc etc).

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greentent86 · 14/07/2026 18:36

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 14:06

It is between him and the Nursery. She needs to withdraw the Monday from her schedule that she pays for and remove that availability for him.
If he wants to use Nursery, he has to pay for it but it’s no good sending the bill to the Solicitor, it’ll go straight in the bin

The problem with nursery is that it’s court ordered that they facilitate hand overs atm. He has EOW throughout the year and any other days where nursery isn’t open it’s facilitated by an agreed third party. So I can’t just pull DC out as it means he can’t collect them. Third party isn’t available to facilitate all handovers.

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greentent86 · 14/07/2026 18:32

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 13:37

Many, many, many men have no say in the matter. Until more mothers are prepared to switch roles and become the non-resident parent, EOW and half the school holidays is what Dads get.

He doesn’t want to be the resident parent. Not that I think that would have happened in court anyway as he’s had such little to do with DC life.

I asked if he would share half the school holidays when DC goes to school and he said no… (not that I really wanted this anyway given the history but was advised to to look reasonable).

He doesn’t need to deduct money off his child to pay for tyres, petrol, blah blah. He’s driving around in a car worth £150k… even if it’s leased it’s a significant amount! I also have it on good authority he’s recently been wearing a luxury watch worth over £40k. I was with him years he wouldn’t be caught dead in a fake.

And because I’ve said the above I’ll have people jumping on me saying I only care about his money and I don’t. I care about my child. I think it’s petty for a father who moved away and has significant financial means to deduct travel costs from money for his child. I could completely understand if the NRP was struggling!

Glad to know from posting here that the deduction won’t be significant, thank you to everyone who has been helpful.

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Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 18:22

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:35

You’re absolutely right, it’s actually four round trips per month because each time he has to travel there and back to collect the child, and again to drop them off.

CMS would ask him to work out his weekly mileage, so if OP is correct and it’s 100 mile round trip four times a month, this would work out at 100 miles a week. CMS would apply the current standard mileage rate (I’ve used standard rather than the lower rate since OP says he drives an SUV) which works out at £18 per week, or £936 per year, which CMS would deduct from his gross annual income.

Assuming the standard 12% liability for one child, the cost to him would be reduced by about £2.16 per week, or £9.36 per month.

Finally someone gets it!!!

Travel costs are not insignificant.

The reduction you get is peanuts. It really isn't worth fighting over.

Besides, you don't have to use CMS.

Use CMS, follow the CMS rules. Some rules work in your favour, some don't.

Maray1967 · 14/07/2026 15:31

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 14:06

It is between him and the Nursery. She needs to withdraw the Monday from her schedule that she pays for and remove that availability for him.
If he wants to use Nursery, he has to pay for it but it’s no good sending the bill to the Solicitor, it’ll go straight in the bin

Yes, that makes sense.

fashionqueen0123 · 14/07/2026 15:05

greentent86 · 12/07/2026 17:59

He doesn’t live 140 miles away. It’s about 100 miles return trip. Not sure why he’s put in for every week, I assume he’s averaging it.

I know my earnings aren’t his problem, never said they were. I used to earn about 20k more but unfortunately after having our child I began having health problems and I was diagnosed with a long term condition. I had to leave my job for something more manageable for my condition. I still work full time and do the best I can.

My point was, that I am much worse off than him, what he pays monthly doesn’t even come close to our child’s nursery costs let alone anything else they need. He’s taking away from our child, not me. I just felt it was a very petty action from him, especially when I know he can afford these costs.

For what it’s worth, one of the nursery days which I pay for, will technically be his day, but I just pay it because it’s not worth the hassle.

Start claiming for that day. Tell the nursery to charge him. That will save you a lot

Sartre · 14/07/2026 15:01

Well I mean any court would surely see this was fucking batshit. He chose to move miles away so he stumps up the travel costs. He also only sees the child EOW so why on earth would he request £70 per week? Also £70 in fuel is crazy, even for a diesel guzzler.

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 14:58

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:41

Spot on. If I had £1 for every thread I’ve read on MN where the OP has posted exactly this…………………

Tale as old as time

Heidi1976 · 14/07/2026 14:47

As someone who's husband has travel cost deductions (due to excessive distance requiring overnight stays and mother moved) the actual 'cost' is never what is deducted. It's barely a fraction of it actually.

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:43

JohnofWessex · 12/07/2026 21:06

From what I remember despite tghe fact that my ex moved away and point blank refused to have anything to do with DS's transport while I could claim minimal travel expenses that would mean that I could not claim a reduction for the nights he spent with me

Under CMS rules he could claim both - I think OP said upthread somewhere that he already gets a reduction for overnights twice a month.

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:41

OhamIreally · 14/07/2026 13:49

I think the way this works is that Dad says:” I can’t do weekdays because I work”. Mum says “If you have every weekend I am doing all the weekday drudge with no downtime with the kids” So then it’s every other weekend for the dad because he won’t countenance changing his working life to accommodate childcare, either paid or provided by himself.

Spot on. If I had £1 for every thread I’ve read on MN where the OP has posted exactly this…………………

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:39

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 14:01

Yes, that's true. But here's an example of what could be going on:

Her version of the story:

He's a deadbead. He doesn't care. He doesn't see his children enough. His contact is sporadic. His payments are unreliable. He's loaded so should be doing more. He abandoned them. I'll make sure they know what he's like.

His story:

Following the divorce, I've had to move back in with my parents. I'm in the process of renting a flat, but it's time consuming and costly. I'm working every spare hour and paying my ex what I can while also trying to set up the new place so my children can stay. I work shifts but due to the conflict between me and my ex, unfortunately she makes plans with the children during my weekends off and makes them available at the times I have to work. She seems to revel in telling everyone what a deadbeat I am. I'm worried what she's saying to the children. I'm struggling at the moment but I'm sure things will get better soon. I want to be a good dad.

Except that none of this is based on anything OP has actually said. I agree there are two sides to every story but the variance in yours equates to the OP coming on MN and telling a pack of lies.

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 14:35

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 13:35

It's not 2 journeys every other week though unless travel is being shared 50:50. It's 2 round trip journeys EOW which works out as 8 single journeys per month.

It's from his home to child's home, from child's home to his home on a Friday night. Then from his home to child's home on a Sunday, and from child's home back to his home. X2 per month.

That probably does amount to a fair amount of fuel if he lives 35 miles away.

You’re absolutely right, it’s actually four round trips per month because each time he has to travel there and back to collect the child, and again to drop them off.

CMS would ask him to work out his weekly mileage, so if OP is correct and it’s 100 mile round trip four times a month, this would work out at 100 miles a week. CMS would apply the current standard mileage rate (I’ve used standard rather than the lower rate since OP says he drives an SUV) which works out at £18 per week, or £936 per year, which CMS would deduct from his gross annual income.

Assuming the standard 12% liability for one child, the cost to him would be reduced by about £2.16 per week, or £9.36 per month.

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 14:06

Maray1967 · 14/07/2026 14:04

Yes, go for it. As soon as I learned about his travel costs claim I would have claimed the nursery day cost. Why shouldn’t he pay it?

It is between him and the Nursery. She needs to withdraw the Monday from her schedule that she pays for and remove that availability for him.
If he wants to use Nursery, he has to pay for it but it’s no good sending the bill to the Solicitor, it’ll go straight in the bin

Maray1967 · 14/07/2026 14:04

RandomMess · 12/07/2026 18:30

He’s too much of an arse to ever stop trying to control you. Perhaps send his nursery bill to him via his solicitor! He won’t ever pay but his solicitor receiving it will cost him money!

Yes, go for it. As soon as I learned about his travel costs claim I would have claimed the nursery day cost. Why shouldn’t he pay it?

Housebashing · 14/07/2026 14:04

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 13:19

Except he is not taking money from his child. He is paying for the fuel, tyres, oil, tolls etc. out of his own wage. He has asked CMS to allow him to pay these essential costs needed for his children to spend time with both parents BEFORE they run their calculation for maintenance. The outcome will be maintenance will reduce by about a fiver. It's a token of acknowledgement of the costs that non-resident parents have to pay.

The alternative is resident parents agree to meet half way. I can assure you that will cost more than a fiver at the distances stated though.

Maybe he had to move there because it's what he could afford. Maybe it's nearer to his work. Maybe it's nearer to family support.

Heaven forbid Dad wants a bit of extra money to buy his child a pizza or an ice cream during his time. What a deadbeat he must be!!!

So bloody what?
I would’ve tripled my salary if I’d have been able to get myself a one bedroom flat in London when I got divorced but unfortunately I could afford a three bedroom house somewhere else with a garden that was necessary for my children to live
So there was probably about 800 grand worth of lost opportunity down the Swanee there that could’ve bought a lot of pizza and a lot of ice cream because I’m a responsible parent and what was right for me wasn’t right for my children
We also couldn’t live in the catchment area for their school anymore so I used to spend 45 minutes in the car with stressed out children whacking each other with bags and guitars and double bases to ensure they could continue their education. That was an additional cost. I had to endure as the resident parent.
He bought himself a mini.
Not sure what that says about him but as a father of Four it wasn’t a suitable vehicle but at least if they crashed nobody was gonna move. They were wedged in like actual sardines EOW. And they’d put up with it from him if I’d have tried that there would’ve been World War III

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 14:01

ThreadGuardDog · 14/07/2026 13:44

Well if what OP says is true and he wanted nothing to do with his child for a long time and then had to be forced to pay maintenance, EOW is what I’d expect.

You only have to look on MN threads to realise there are a lot of non resident dads doing the bare minimum despite mum wanting and asking for more input.

Yes, that's true. But here's an example of what could be going on:

Her version of the story:

He's a deadbead. He doesn't care. He doesn't see his children enough. His contact is sporadic. His payments are unreliable. He's loaded so should be doing more. He abandoned them. I'll make sure they know what he's like.

His story:

Following the divorce, I've had to move back in with my parents. I'm in the process of renting a flat, but it's time consuming and costly. I'm working every spare hour and paying my ex what I can while also trying to set up the new place so my children can stay. I work shifts but due to the conflict between me and my ex, unfortunately she makes plans with the children during my weekends off and makes them available at the times I have to work. She seems to revel in telling everyone what a deadbeat I am. I'm worried what she's saying to the children. I'm struggling at the moment but I'm sure things will get better soon. I want to be a good dad.

OhamIreally · 14/07/2026 13:49

Ruth58d · 14/07/2026 13:37

Many, many, many men have no say in the matter. Until more mothers are prepared to switch roles and become the non-resident parent, EOW and half the school holidays is what Dads get.

I think the way this works is that Dad says:” I can’t do weekdays because I work”. Mum says “If you have every weekend I am doing all the weekday drudge with no downtime with the kids” So then it’s every other weekend for the dad because he won’t countenance changing his working life to accommodate childcare, either paid or provided by himself.