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AIBU to find a lawyer for my nephew whose pregnant girlfriend says she doesn't want him on the birth certificate?

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Hillfarmer · 11/07/2026 10:44

My lovely 35-year old nephew is in a very stormy relationship. He and his GF already have one DC of 18 months. She is pregnant again, due August - we could debate the rights and wrongs of that until the cows come home - but we are where we are. They have just had an almighty bust-up, she's kicked him out of the house and now telling him she won't have him on the birth certificate.

He is a devoted Dad and would be devastated not to have parental rights from the get-go, but what can he do? Are there any family lawyers on here who know whether he can force her hand in some wayl? Are there any legal means he can use before the baby is born - say, get an injunction?

He is named on the birth cerficate of his first DC and of course wants to be named on the second one's birth cert. If he's not on it, I understand that it will be much more of a fight to get access etc.

Any advice welcome!

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Hotzenplotz · 17/07/2026 15:46

Mind your own business, OP. Why bother asking if you didn't want answers?

Boomer55 · 17/07/2026 13:28

A friends son had a DNA-test, found a solicitor, and is now on his daughters birth certificate, and a new birth certificate was issued, over and above the birth mothers objections.

I guess a Family Law Solicitor is the way to go.

Toppityfaye · 17/07/2026 13:22

thepariscrimefiles · 17/07/2026 13:03

TBH I doubt that OP is a reliable narrator. She will see the very best in her nephew and the very worst in the mother of his children and she has only heard her nephew's side.

I presume that her nephew has his own parents who can support and advise him without the un-asked for meddling from his aunt who sounds overbearing and very hostile towards her nephew's pregnant ex-girlfriend.

I don't doubt there's 2 sides here. But fundamentally that doesn't change the fact that posters are championing excluding a father from a birth certificate as a power play, and that's pretty reprehensible.

I'm sure there will be lots of speculation about what the nephew has done to deserve this but really the narrative isn't that there's been something heinous, so unless we have reason to believe otherwise, the automatic stance that the mother should be encouraged to do this is awful.

thepariscrimefiles · 17/07/2026 13:03

Toppityfaye · 17/07/2026 12:31

I'm really surprised at the overwhelming support of weaponising a child like this because they've had a row. Pregnant or not, that's indefensible behaviour.

TBH I doubt that OP is a reliable narrator. She will see the very best in her nephew and the very worst in the mother of his children and she has only heard her nephew's side.

I presume that her nephew has his own parents who can support and advise him without the un-asked for meddling from his aunt who sounds overbearing and very hostile towards her nephew's pregnant ex-girlfriend.

Toppityfaye · 17/07/2026 12:57

SerenaCat93 · 17/07/2026 12:47

I don't know why you're surprised, the majority of MN is completely against men having any sort of rights to their children because all men are awful you know 🙄

After I posted I didn't ask myself whether I was really surprised. I think I'm just surprised that's it's SO many absolutely adamant posts that the pregnant woman is in the right here. It really gives a distorted view.

SerenaCat93 · 17/07/2026 12:47

Toppityfaye · 17/07/2026 12:31

I'm really surprised at the overwhelming support of weaponising a child like this because they've had a row. Pregnant or not, that's indefensible behaviour.

I don't know why you're surprised, the majority of MN is completely against men having any sort of rights to their children because all men are awful you know 🙄

Toppityfaye · 17/07/2026 12:31

I'm really surprised at the overwhelming support of weaponising a child like this because they've had a row. Pregnant or not, that's indefensible behaviour.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 16/07/2026 11:27

Backedoffhackedoff · 16/07/2026 10:59

I told you didn’t I that I spent £375 Friday afternoon? I reviewed every suitable firm in my large section of the county, and north London. They don’t give free time, no.

Maybe they didn't like the look of you 🙄 or your attitude.
I do that know why they didn't give you half hr free, but just because they didn't doesnt mean that other's have the same experience as you. Its not just a "mumsnet thing" however many times you say it. Although attitudes like yours, certainly appear more common on here than in real life.
I won't be responding again, I have better things to do with my time, than arguing with people trolling. Have a good day.

Backedoffhackedoff · 16/07/2026 10:59

Reallyneedsaholiday · 16/07/2026 10:05

Why? Do you need one? Just walk into your local solicitors and ask if it’s a service they offer.

I told you didn’t I that I spent £375 Friday afternoon? I reviewed every suitable firm in my large section of the county, and north London. They don’t give free time, no.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 16/07/2026 10:05

Backedoffhackedoff · 16/07/2026 07:11

I’ll await your recommendation for all the high quality solicitors who do a free half an hour. Suspect most of them will be a call centre full of students

Why? Do you need one? Just walk into your local solicitors and ask if it’s a service they offer.

raisinglittlepeople12 · 16/07/2026 07:17

He should speak to a solicitor to get everything in place for the access and support he needs

Backedoffhackedoff · 16/07/2026 07:11

Reallyneedsaholiday · 15/07/2026 23:22

You need to find better solicitors. 🤣🤣🤣

I’ll await your recommendation for all the high quality solicitors who do a free half an hour. Suspect most of them will be a call centre full of students

Reallyneedsaholiday · 15/07/2026 23:22

Backedoffhackedoff · 15/07/2026 17:02

course they do. They might do a case assessment to quote, an assessment isn’t legal advice. But even so, if my solicitors had given the first 30 mins free it still would cost £150 since the minimum appointment to gather the info they need is an hour.

You need to find better solicitors. 🤣🤣🤣

Backedoffhackedoff · 15/07/2026 17:02

Reallyneedsaholiday · 15/07/2026 15:55

No, not "on Mumsnet" 🤣🤣🤣
Every solicitor I've ever used offers 1/2 free initial consultation.

course they do. They might do a case assessment to quote, an assessment isn’t legal advice. But even so, if my solicitors had given the first 30 mins free it still would cost £150 since the minimum appointment to gather the info they need is an hour.

Reallyneedsaholiday · 15/07/2026 15:55

Backedoffhackedoff · 14/07/2026 07:22

only on mumsnet

No, not "on Mumsnet" 🤣🤣🤣
Every solicitor I've ever used offers 1/2 free initial consultation.

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 16:08

PhoenixReincarnated · 14/07/2026 15:58

Sorry should have specified it's parental responsibility not parental rights.

Child's rights.
Parent's responsibilities.

FWIW assuming there's no abuse I do think the child has the right to a relationship with both parents.

Of course they do. If you purposely obstruct your child from access to their parent by leaving them off of the BC, then you are abusing your child. People are so caught up trying to get vengeance on a disappointing partner that they assume you are talking about the parent having rights to the child.

PhoenixReincarnated · 14/07/2026 15:58

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 15:11

Your child has the right to a family of origin. They have no responsibility to ensure you do not misuse your power and alienate them from their birth parent. It's vile to suggest they are responsible for you cutting them off from their birth parent in revenge.

Sorry should have specified it's parental responsibility not parental rights.

Child's rights.
Parent's responsibilities.

FWIW assuming there's no abuse I do think the child has the right to a relationship with both parents.

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 15:11

PhoenixReincarnated · 14/07/2026 14:35

Responsibility ... not rights

Your child has the right to a family of origin. They have no responsibility to ensure you do not misuse your power and alienate them from their birth parent. It's vile to suggest they are responsible for you cutting them off from their birth parent in revenge.

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 15:09

Pinkflamingo10 · 14/07/2026 14:13

They’re not married. So legally in UK she does not have to put any man on the birth certificate.
Only after the birth and registration of baby the father can apply to be added.
pregnant women do not usually kick out safe, loving and kind fathers. There may be more to this than you know.

It's emotional abuse to alienate your child from their birth family. It could cost you any rights to see your children.

HeyThereDelila · 14/07/2026 14:40

It’s nothing to do with you.

This relationship is clearly awful and they should separate. He should concentrate on being a good Dad, calming down and hopefully they can get on well enough that she names him on the certificate.

PhoenixReincarnated · 14/07/2026 14:35

Lexibletheflexible · 13/07/2026 08:05

It isnt your right to deny your child the right to the family of origin.

In the 90s and 2000s, women used to often advise each other to do this (leave the father off of the BC) to ensure he couldn't realise his paternal rights. The problem is that nowadays, family lawyers and the like will use this as proof of parental alienation later down the custody line. It has backfired massively on some people who assumed the father would never really pursue parental rights legally.

I would absolutely financially support a niece going through legal battles with her kids, so I see no reason I wouldn't similarly support my nephew who wanted to be a father to his own children.

Responsibility ... not rights

Pinkflamingo10 · 14/07/2026 14:13

They’re not married. So legally in UK she does not have to put any man on the birth certificate.
Only after the birth and registration of baby the father can apply to be added.
pregnant women do not usually kick out safe, loving and kind fathers. There may be more to this than you know.

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 14:02

All these women who read books like "how to be a toxic ex wife" and "keeping your kids from their daddy" need to burn them

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 14:00

You dont get to isolate your child from its father, and then have a judge say that because you successfully managed to alienate the child from its father for that time and he's had to wait to take it through court, then dad gets little visitation.

You will lose your children that way.

Lexibletheflexible · 14/07/2026 13:59

Hoardasurass · 14/07/2026 12:15

What I posted is considered in the best interest of the child, however its well known that family crts dont always work in the best interest of the child.
Its unusual for a dad to get one single 6 hour visit per week with a 3 month old especially after only a couple of visits at mums house as there would be no bond and hes essentially a stranger to the child and at 12 weeks the baby is only beginning to realise that its a separate entity to its mother. So separating such a young child from the mother without someone the baby has a bond with is actively harmful. Honestly that judge needs his head examined

I dont know who told you this but it is completely individualised to the child and their specific needs. For example, a breastfed baby under 6 months is seen differently to a 10 month old formula fed baby.

Furthermore, the relationship itself could have meant that one parent was pressured to provide rather than be a primary caregiver. Just because it made sense when you were together that dad worked 80 hours a week and so he didnt get much time with the baby, if he now wants to arrange his life to accommodate more childcare and to become a primary caregiver, courts can and do see that and decide that the child can have significant time with them. Even 50/50.

Don't mistake primary carer status for "Mum". They arent synonymous.