If you support Farage, would you be able to explain why please.

This. ^

Exactly!

It's none of your business.

No-one has to explain themselves to you - or anyone else.

Just so they can be mocked and derided and berated - and called thick, racist, stupid, uneducated, gammon, flag shagger etc etc etc...

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They're not refugees.

Not "seeing colour" doesn't make someone less likely to be racist. Often the opposite in fact. You know your husband, I'm not casting any aspersions on him. Just pointing out that being apparently "colourblind" is no indicator of whether someone hold racist views or not.

Explain that housing. What it's like, what refugees are given to go along with their housing, what happens to them while waiting for their cases to be heard, what happens afterwards. It would be interesting to hear your perspective.

You mean the many thousands of mostly men from incompatible cultures showing up on our shores and being housed and accommodated at the taxpayer's expense? Those boat people?

@Theolittle What are you talking about?
You hate the English flag?
Have you ever visited Switzerland or France or Italy or America where the national flags are everywhere, and people are not considered racist for flying them?

Immigrants cross the channel primarily because when they get here they are given benefits, are not expected to pay into the system and are rarely deported.

Yes the indigenous population commit more crime, but why import women hating immigrants who rape even more women? What good is that?

High level immigration is good, the low level people we have been letting in is not.
It should not be that indefinite leave to remain is granted after only 5 years, that needs to be 10.

If Burnham eases up on immigration and bleats on about Palestine, then Reform will get in next time if they can field enough people.

Yes, my DH also voted Reform and he is the most un-racist white person I have ever met. He often does not see colour at all (sometimes I point out that someone is non-white and he has not even noticed).

He gets so angry when other white people speak to him about negatively about non-white people expecting him to agree with them.

But he votes Reform because he is fed up of the way that people of all colours are able to come here when there are British people (of all colours) who are homeless.

Not sure whether Farage will still be around for the next GE, but even if he wasn’t, Reform will get in. A lot of BAME support Reform, not just white people. People want change, proper change. That change may be a good or a bad thing, but change is what is craved. Reform are going to lead this country whether we like it or not, lead us into a golden future, or lead us into the dung heap, they are going to be heading up the country, for at least one term. If they only make one term they will be consigned to the history books, like Labour will be because people have no faith in them either. It will take a miracle for Labour to get in again.

Yes the UK is tolerant. But I can’t stand the flags as they are at worst a sign of racism and at best make people living in communities feel unwanted and disliked. One welcome thing about the football is that the flags seem great again!

Immigrants cross the channel because they have contacts here and speak English. Many many more immigrants stay in EU countries rather than risking their lives crossing the channel, the UK has relatively few

You talk about immigrants committing horrible crimes as if they’re the only ones that commit horrible crimes. White British men commit crimes against women and children EVERY SINGLE DAY and no one goes rioting about it

When I was young there were biker gangs on the park plying teenage girls with alcohol. It wasn’t called rape then it was just part of life. I’m not condoning this but it’s not just Asians that treat women badly.

i am not someone that is racist and I do take everyone as I find them no matter the colour of their skin. Society absolutely benefits from immigration imo. But I do have a concern that parts of Britain are unrecognisable as “British” and can see how people that live there start to feel alienated. The irony is, after Brexit there are millions more coming legally from the cultures that people are sceptical about,where women have lesser rights, to fill the jobs that jmany young white people don’t want to do, rather than the EU migrants of that previously came.

The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world. Name one that's more tolerant. Why do people risk their lives crossing the Channel to get here when they're already in a safe country?
Your post is naive at best.
I observe how minorities treat us (the rape gangs) when they're minorities.
I observe how minorities are treated now (Henry Nowak's killer, DEI nonsense that excludes white people from opportunities. I could go on but you get the gist).
You should read some Thomas Sowell (consevative American professor). In one article he asks if the Japanese have ever been disadvantaged by being homogeneous. He asks if the Balkans benefited by being heterogenous.
I am not arguing for no immigration and neither is Reform. Farage has repeatedly said that it is the pace and scale of immigration that is the issue because it affects integration.

I agree. I’m not a reform voter but my DH is and it’s all based on not feeling like they have a voice elsewhere, being bored of being over looked with very little meaningful change. Protest votes are definitely a real thing. I know some people who protest voted to leave the EU because of past experience with joining! It’s a messy system.

I found your misinformed diatribe amusing. You've gotta laugh, right? The alternative is worse.

But glad you cleared up that you hadn't yet gone so far as to quote an actual neo Nazi!

How do you know that? She might genuinely just want to understand (I know I do)

My own view is that it doesn't matter what colour skin the people I share my environment with have. I don't care what their ethnicity is, what they wear, eat, or how they worship. I don't care if more people have a different skin colour to me than not.
I care only for a society that let's me live my life as I please within reasonable laws that don't disadvantage me and don't harm others.
Fear of becoming a white minority betrays a deep awareness of the racism you would try to deny.
You fear becoming a minority because you have observed how minorities are treated. You know that in the UK having a different skin colour, religion or ethnicity to the majority means you are disadvantaged, and you don't want the tables turned on you. Which is of course understandable.
My view in that is there's no point bleating about a shift in population demographic. If it happens, it happens. Energy is far better spent on breaking down inequalities due to race, working towards a society where it really makes no difference.

Yes, I do mean Thomas Sowell.

Re "Your post is genuinely funny", sneering is not a substitute for argument but I get that it's
easier.

Careful- you are going to throw your back out if you virtue signal any harder! You have no genuine interest in answers to this You are just trying to start a bunfight!

OMG, he's in it for himself can't you see that?! He's corrupt! He doesn't give a shite about you or I or the country or the planet (climate change) for that matter......he's in it for the £££, not for any principled reason.

I almost hope he does get in just so that you'll finally see he's as useless and dangerous as Trump!...and then we can move on from all these self-serving egomaniacs.

Sorry, but this is definitely a pot:kettle situation.
Unfortunately, MN contains a lot of people in echo chambers.

I voted reform in the last election. My reasons are pretty much as you have said.

The country is too full with too little resources now. With our youngsters unemployed we should not be bringing in more people. We have plenty. Train our youngsters please and stop all this immigration (legal or illegal). No other party seems to be prepared to say it's a problem except reform and now restore.

NHS needs reformed. Perhaps can we keep it in some form and make it co-pay but nobody except NF seems to be prepared to say the NHS is a mess and needs changed. So I can't get a GP appointment and I've been waiting now for 15 months on a waiting list for treatment they say I need. Neither of these situations screams the NHS is doing a great job. I think we should keep it for basics but make the rest of it private or co-pay. Unfortunately all the politicians seem scared to broach the NHS so NF is getting votes on this subject too purely for saying yes it is needing changed.

The whole welfare thing is just a joke now. Working people being taxed and welfare claimants being rewarded. So yes we do need someone who is prepared to make hard choices. Only reform or restore seem to be prepared to make these tough choices. So again they get my vote. The triple lock needs to be changed but my main bug bear is all these unemployment/disabled benefits and I use the word 'disabled' loosely because we know what a joke that has turned into (apologies to the real disabled people out there)

I don't agree with all their policies but we just cannot continue with this labour nightmare of raise taxes (killing growth), keep shelling out tons of money (thus borrowing more which we can't afford). We need jobs, growth, change, hard decisions. AB is already showing signs of trying to keep everyone happy so I don't think he is going to turn it around unfortunately.

I don't care if NF is rich with a ton of houses. To me that says he understands business, economics. I care that he is willing to make tough choices to stop the decline of Britain. Pretty much every PM we ever had was a rich, privately educated person. Not sure why NF gets such a hard time about it. He is no different to the rest in that respect. I don't particularly like NF but I don't have to. If he makes change, brings growth, changes public services not working, stops immigration then I will vote for him. (Actually I'm probably going to vote restore when they have candidates to vote for but that's another subject and yes again I don't like some of their policies either).

I want to like Kemi because I was traditionally a tory voter but I honestly think she is all talk and does not inspire confidence. I might be wrong about her but that is how I feel just now and so no I wouldn't vote tory with her in charge.

To a degree reform (or restore) is a protest vote against the killing of the UK's financial viability by labour.

I guess it's polite to say not all Reform voters are racist... But you do have to wonder what the attraction is for the rest? It's hardly as though Reform has any actual policies other than to cause chaos and stop people attending Pride. And they're a pretty unprepossessing bunch. Is anyone really that taken with Jenrick, Braverman or, god help us, Lee Anderson?

Carry on pretending to yourseif that you possess amazing insight. I couldn't possibly comment.