To boycott Turkey and Egypt after homophobic action against cruise ship?

Ofc they're entitled to ban, it doesn't make it right. They should be criticised.

Was apartheid, or Saudi Arabia banning women from voting, to name 2, also 'their country, their rules'?

It was Gaza that was brought into the conversation first wasn't it? Do you know why that was too? I thought it was odd considering there is hardly cruises to Gaza, gay or otherwise.

Being gay isn't a 'lifestyle' anymore than being straight is, but I agree with your overall point.

Tell that to the person bringing in Palestine. No one mentioned Palestine until they did, so why accuse people?

Maybe she thinks both ! I certainly do...

It’s not the same at all. You should read some of the more knowledgeable comments. But hey, don’t let the facts get in the way of your prejudice

I’m sure they’ll miss you!

The quesrion isn't about the rights of citizens like apartheid or Saudi. It's about holidaymakers. Totally different conversation.

Ofc they're entitled to ban, it doesn't make it right. They should be criticised.

Was apartheid, or Saudi Arabia banning women from voting, to name 2, also 'their country, their rules'?

No thread is complete without shoe horning in hate for Palestinians it seems.

Nothing justifies killing innocent people, ok?

Both countries with terrible attitudes to women, lgb etc.

Go for it. I wont go to either.

That’s for a religious reason but same sex couples have the same rights as heterosexual couples including all legal and civil rights and can adopt children. There’s a lot of respect for lgbt in Israel unlike other ME countries.

This too.

I often think people going on Nile cruises there are reckless due to the continuing instability, although they're heavily guarded. And arguably they help give Sisi legitimacy.

I'm sorry that Israel is the leader in the region on this point, with a much better stance on LGBT rights and therefore you can't exploit this issue to demonise it as the most evil state that ever evilled, and I know how much you want to, which is why you're now so pissed off.

Ofc they're entitled to ban, it doesn't make it right. They should be criticised.

Was apartheid, or Saudi Arabia banning women from voting, to name 2, also 'their country, their rules'?

I know. And there are a lot of legitimate criticisms to be made of it, which is why it's so weird how rarely they make those ones. And how they seem to single it out in a way they don't do with any other country. Like here, when of all the countries in that part of the world and their stance on LGBT etc, they go for Israel even though it actually is the leader in that regard and has a thriving gay scene. But it's the one they complain about.

I just can't think why.

It's nuanced. Hyperbole about grooming gangs is unhelpful.

And I disagreed that misogyny is the correct response to homophobia as well.

OP can boycott. People can be angry and upset. It won't change a single thing. Campaigning to give asylum to (for example) gay men from Uganda actually means something.

Exactly!

Re the girl, why was she calling him gay? In an insulting way? If an 8yo is homophobic it's not their fault but probably their environment, calling them a bitch is awful.

It's also a factor that marriage HAS to be religious in Israel due to carryover from Ottoman era laws. Thus the phenomenon of 'Cyprus weddings' by Israelis who want a secular wedding.

From Wikipedia
Marriage in Israel is regulated by the religious courts of recognized confessional communities, none of which perform interfaith or same-sex marriages. Domestic civil marriage is not recognized in Israel; however, civil marriages performed in foreign jurisdictions, including same-sex marriages, are recognized with full marital rights under Israeli law.[1][2]
Marriages performed in Israel are only legally recognized when registered with one of the 15 religious marital courts recognized by the state, none of which permit same-sex marriage. In November 2006, the High Court of Justice ruled that same-sex marriages performed abroad may be registered in Israel.[3]Consequently, Israeli same-sex couples who wished to have their marriages recognized by the government had to marry outside Israel, in a jurisdiction where such marriages were legal, and then register upon returning home. In July 2022, the Central District Court ruled that marriages performed via an online civil marriage service established by the U.S. state of Utah, including same-sex marriages, are legal in Israel, removing the necessity of leaving the country to get married.[4][5] The ruling was upheld by the Supreme Court in 2023.[6]

Why are you sorry, are you preventing gay people from marrying in Israel? Israel don't allow gay people to marry, the same way Egypt and Turkey don't. You don't need to be sorry for that unless you are responsible of course.

Ofc they're entitled to ban, it doesn't make it right. They should be criticised.

Was apartheid, or Saudi Arabia banning women from voting, to name 2, also 'their country, their rules'?

Some people on here hate Israel

They don't conduct gay marriages but if a couple marries elsewhere, the state recognises and respects it, and that really is better than any of its neighbours. Sorry.

I meant to say Middle East countries, not gay countries.