Dieting is horrendous

If you use it correctly you don’t decimate the muscle or your BMR - just keep exercising as normal to maintain muscle and make sure you don’t use it as a vehicle to starve yourself with but to remove the cravings that lead to the binges and misery

I'm NOT obese. ;-)

I have a 32 inch waist - well within healthy range of waist to height ratio. As another poster observed, I'm wearing size 10 to 12 fixed waistbands depending on the shop. I DO have weight on my tummy and thighs, but...

Tell you what else I have. Big boobs, wide hips, long legs, and muscles from my strength training.

BMI is not useful for me. It was never intended to be. It's a population level measure. Fine, whatever.

Voy and Med Express do it for 25+ now.

No it’s not me it’s you . I was merely commenting about the misconception that small people with a higher bmi always look fatter than taller people , which you have helpfully debunked here . When my bmi goes below 24 people start asking if I am ok and even my manager pulled me aside and told me I didn’t need to lose any more weight etc . when I did before . Honestly you can try and tell me I look fat all you want . I just don’t agree

@Wickedlittledancer , she is underweight on paper but might not be if she is of lean and slight build.

I'm a lean build and to not be fat at a BMI of 25, I'd need to be training hard for hours every day so I was solid muscle.

It's remarkable how many people have 'personal' connections to one of the 2 people in the UK who died of pancreatitis whilst taking Mounjaro specifically for weight loss.

A bit of data jiggery pokery means that if the deceased had 50 people in their life and each of those had 50 people, you're down to each of those 'I know my friend's neighbour's hairdresser's dog's dentist' coming up with a 1 in over 13,000 chance of not being a liar actually knowing somebody and not repeating stories read in the paper as though they had intimate knowledge. You're more likely to conceive and give birth to identical triplets than that.

Nobody with a BMI of 31 has bony shoulders and wears a size 10.

Is she’s a size ten in a fixed waist band then she’s not carrying it on her tummy.

How do you do it when you don't feel actually hungry, but you've got quite literally no energy and weak?

Seriously your sensitivity has you jumping at shadows. Generally people don’t like bmi when they don’t like what it says, and I stand by that, my hairdresser has a bmi of 17, her view is it’s shite and she’s not underweight. I know as she was royally pissed off gp said she was.

is she underweight, yes of course, so it’s not healthy, but she looks fine. Great in fact. BMI is not about appearance or dress size, it’s a corridor to indicate health impacts, no more no less. And the further you stream away from the healthy corridor the more unhealthy it is.

now clearly there are some outliers. Before anyone starts shouting about body builders and rugby players. But for most of us, it’s a good indication if we are in that healthy bmi corridor, which is a good couple of stone or so for most. Our weight isn’t having a negative impact on our health.

It was in reference to
"Yesterday I had 3 scrambled eggs with a bit of cheese and veg for lunch = 500 cals. Then for dinner 4 rice cakes with cheese, salad and crab sticks = 500 cals."

There's plenty of protein there but not a lot of fat. The cheese, if only a little bit, will perk up the food so that it is more enjoyable and satiating.

You ARE obese
The definition of obese is BMI over 30 so it's total nonsense to say you aren't. How big is your waist? You'll be at risk of health complications because of the excess fat on your mid section no matter how bony your shoulders look 🙄

Plus protein!

its certainly a common misconception thrown around on mumsnet constantly then

'Dieting' is crap. Makes you think about nothing but food.

I have no idea how many calories I eat in a day. I eat what I like when I like
I don't like large evening meals and I love veg and salad. Not keen on carbs. Can take or leave cakes and biscuits.
I exercise regularly.

What will make me put on weight is eating too much and of the wrong food, not moving much. Large evening meals like eating out, eating takeaways or mindless grazing while watching tv.

FWIW I look fat if I weigh more than about 18 lbs below the top of the BMI normal range.

Sod that. It adds satiety to the food and keeps you fuller longer. I'd ditch the rice cakes and have oatcakes instead.

You're doing that to yourself already at 1000kcal. You're just finding it harder and not benefiting from reduced inflammation and a more level blood sugar in the process.

BMI is a height and weight calculation, so a bmi of 25 on a 5ft woman will be a much lower weight than a bmi of 25 on a 6ft woman, so no one looks fatter or thinner due to height, as height is already taken into account.

its body composition, we all carry weight differently, we all have different muscle masses and we also all have different bodies and skeletons. For example take two women the same height and one can have much longer legs and shorter torso than the other. Some are pear shaped, some apple. BMI isn’t associated with appearance, it is purely what is healthy for that height of person. Someone with a. Lot of muscle will be towards the upper end of a healthy bmi, someone with little muscle will be healthier at the lower end.

I look back at photos of me and I honestly resembled a linebacker. It’s definitely not the case that shorter looks fatter.

I think it could be a lot! I'm 5'3" and weigh 8st 3lb. In order to have a BMI of 28 I would have to weigh 11st 2lbs. So, I would need to lose 3 stone. I think that's a lot.

Cheese is full of fat, both good and bad fats. Try substituting it.

I see constantly here that it’s short people that look fatter with a higher bmi but maybe this is incorrect because I’ve less than half a stone to lose to get my bmi in the normal category. I’ve big boobs and I’m technically overweight but i definitely do not look fat at a glance

You also need to take it gradually, going too fast too soon will make your body go into survival mode and it does all it can to KEEP the weight. Move more and eat at fewer intervals as you can.

It just shows you BMI is not a good ‘one size fits all’ tool. My BMI at my heaviest was 27.8 and, despite being a bit taller than average (5’9), I was really very fat indeed.

You're not doing it right if you feel hungry. No, really. This is what I got wrong all this time. If you fill yourself up with enough protein then you'll barely have space for all the veg you need!