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To have kicked an old man’s dog?

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itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:37

This morning I was walking my 2 very small elderly dogs on lead in the woods near me where it’s nice and cool for them.

they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face, valid I wouldn’t like that either. If a dog on or off lead just walks past or gives them a quick sniff they don’t mind. I always tell people not to let their dogs come right up to them.
Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything.

there was an old man walking a large greyhound type dog off lead and he’s miles away from it it runs at us very fast so I stick my leg in front of my dogs and the dog doesn’t stop runs straight into my leg. He then excitedly throws his foot on top of my smallest dog he squeals in pain and my other dog starts growling and showing teeth.

so I picked them up and then the big dogs starts jumping up at me to get to my dogs so I kick it away.

Old man then starts screaming at me for “abusing” his friendly dog and a lady walking passed then said to him “I saw her kick the dog”

and now I don’t know if I did too much but I was so overwhelmed and worried it would become a fight and there’s no way my old boys would do well in that situation. To make it worse the lady made a post about it in our local Facebook group (luckily no pictures) and everyone’s saying awful things but they only know one side!

For the record the dog was not hurt didn’t even squeal!

OP posts:
SummerDive · 08/07/2026 18:11

BoredZelda · 08/07/2026 17:46

The greyhound sounded like it wasn’t being aggressive either, otherwise OP would likely have been bitten on the foot. The greyhound must have legs of steel if it putting its foot on OP’s dog made it yelp. Sounds like the smaller dog had it handled, and was showing aggression to the Greyhound. If OP hadn’t have picket it up, the greyhound might well have scarpered.

It’s impossible for me to pick up my Labrador, so if a dog comes at her I have no choice but to let them sort it out. As I understand it, picking your dog up only exacerbates the situation and of course the greyhound jumped at her, he wanted to play with her dogs. Nothing the OP has said suggests her dogs are particularly nervous about other dogs coming to play with them just that they don’t “love it”.

If people can’t discern aggression and playfulness in dogs, they should avoid having them as pets. People also need to stop picking up small dogs just because they can.

No but the OP specified her dogs are old. So probably much more sensitive to have ‘a foot over them’ and more ‘fragile’ (fir want of better words)

And whether the dog was aggressive or not, it shouldn’t have jumped Eother on the smaller dogs or on the OP.
What makes you think it’s ok, apart from ‘just let them sort it themselves’? Even though the OP’s dogs were older so likely to have arthritis etc….

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 18:10

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:34

You asked for views and have argued against everyone who disagreed with your actions. if you were capable of kicking a dog you were capable of walking away from it.

If you really were unable to walk away and had your hands full of your own dogs, how would you manage a lead or treats?

Walking away when a dog has its paws on your shoulders (she did mention it was a greyhound, and that she is five feet tall) is difficult unless you kick back at it to dislodge it from its assault on you.

She wouldn't. She didn't. Nor had she been advised on this thread to carry either a spare lead or treats, at the time she was at risk from this nuisance-hound.

Mumof2wifeof1crazytimes · 08/07/2026 18:07

backformoreofthesame · 08/07/2026 14:23

It depends if the lady is a dog lover many of whom think that out of control dogs are just fine, just having fun, just being friendly

And she might not be a dog lover and she just saw a random person kicking a dog. Only those 3 people know what happened and as I said, the unbiased person gave her opinions on what happened. I am sure the OP is biased to what happened.

SummerDive · 08/07/2026 18:05

@Allisnotlost1 It was still jumping on the OP.
Is that ok, something we should accept?

Emilesgran · 08/07/2026 18:05

BoredZelda · 08/07/2026 17:46

The greyhound sounded like it wasn’t being aggressive either, otherwise OP would likely have been bitten on the foot. The greyhound must have legs of steel if it putting its foot on OP’s dog made it yelp. Sounds like the smaller dog had it handled, and was showing aggression to the Greyhound. If OP hadn’t have picket it up, the greyhound might well have scarpered.

It’s impossible for me to pick up my Labrador, so if a dog comes at her I have no choice but to let them sort it out. As I understand it, picking your dog up only exacerbates the situation and of course the greyhound jumped at her, he wanted to play with her dogs. Nothing the OP has said suggests her dogs are particularly nervous about other dogs coming to play with them just that they don’t “love it”.

If people can’t discern aggression and playfulness in dogs, they should avoid having them as pets. People also need to stop picking up small dogs just because they can.

I mentioned above an incident in which an elderly medium-sized dog was quite badly injured by a "playful" young male that was a lot bigger than him. If he'd been able to be picked up he could have avoided injury, but you think the problem is owners of small dogs picking them up and not the out of control dogs "playing"??

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:53

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 17:41

But you had picked up your dogs, they couldn't have been stood on again?

You found a solution that didn't involve hurting a dog, but then kicked the dog. It's hard to understand.

Exactly this. By the time OP kicked the dog it wasn’t actually hurting anyone.

Ive had to deal with over friendly dogs approaching and crowding my dog, who does not like it. Very often small dogs actually, despite some owners thinking small dogs are timid or made of glass 😜! It’s annoying and some owners are dicks. Some are just doing their best, and no harm is meant or has happened. But I’ve always managed the situation without kicking anyone. And if I did kick any dog, I expect the owner to be far less helpful after that!

tinaabbot · 08/07/2026 17:48

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 17:41

But you had picked up your dogs, they couldn't have been stood on again?

You found a solution that didn't involve hurting a dog, but then kicked the dog. It's hard to understand.

But the dog was still jumping on her and her dogs, so they were still in danger and being hurt.

I really don’t understand a lot of these posts. If an animal I don’t know is jumping on me, I am being attacked, same if a person I don’t know was doing it, and if I am being attacked I am going to defend myself. I really hope I never encounter a lot of you when out for a walk or a run (although I may have in the past 🙄)

OP, you did nothing wrong and I hope you and your dogs are okay.

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:47

nomas · 08/07/2026 17:36

Yes, OP asked for views and she has plenty of people telling her she did nothing wrong. The majority of people have vote OP is not being unreasonable, and she is entitled to post and get support, sympathy and reassurance.

Of course she is, and others are entitled to post in disagreement.

BoredZelda · 08/07/2026 17:46

Mistymaglets · 08/07/2026 13:14

Her dogs were not the aggressors.
Her dogs reacted to the greyhound.

" Abuse" is an ridiculously emotional term for a knee jerk ( literally) reaction that saved all dogs from a possible escalation.

The greyhound sounded like it wasn’t being aggressive either, otherwise OP would likely have been bitten on the foot. The greyhound must have legs of steel if it putting its foot on OP’s dog made it yelp. Sounds like the smaller dog had it handled, and was showing aggression to the Greyhound. If OP hadn’t have picket it up, the greyhound might well have scarpered.

It’s impossible for me to pick up my Labrador, so if a dog comes at her I have no choice but to let them sort it out. As I understand it, picking your dog up only exacerbates the situation and of course the greyhound jumped at her, he wanted to play with her dogs. Nothing the OP has said suggests her dogs are particularly nervous about other dogs coming to play with them just that they don’t “love it”.

If people can’t discern aggression and playfulness in dogs, they should avoid having them as pets. People also need to stop picking up small dogs just because they can.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · 08/07/2026 17:43

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:40

if you can’t control your dog they shouldn’t be off lead man could not get his dog to come back to him? What was I supposed to do?

You’re right, of course. But we all know that there are lots of stupid dog walkers about who don’t understand the concept of recall, who think that because their dog is friendly, all other dogs will be perfectly happy to be sniffed and jumped on.

Do you want to be the person arguing in small claims court over vets bills because your dogs don’t react well to others, but you felt that there was a principle at stake?

Ilikewinter · 08/07/2026 17:42

Hawksie · 08/07/2026 12:39

Yes you were wrong to kick a dog.

If your dogs aren't socialized then hire a field for them to be walked in but don't expect socialised dogs to be kept on leads in areas where they can be off lead and expect them to change 363936529936 thousands of years of genetically inbred social behaviour

And if a dog doesn't have 100% recall then it shouldn't be off the lead. The OP did nothing wrong. In that situation I would have also stopped the loose lead dog jumping at mine.

RoseOliviaAu · 08/07/2026 17:42

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:40

if you can’t control your dog they shouldn’t be off lead man could not get his dog to come back to him? What was I supposed to do?

But you’re saying YOU can’t control the behaviour of YOUR dogs who don’t like other dogs. It’s your dogs that are the aggressive ones.

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 17:41

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 17:07

So I should have let it continue to hurt my dog just because it’s bigger?

But you had picked up your dogs, they couldn't have been stood on again?

You found a solution that didn't involve hurting a dog, but then kicked the dog. It's hard to understand.

nomas · 08/07/2026 17:36

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:34

You asked for views and have argued against everyone who disagreed with your actions. if you were capable of kicking a dog you were capable of walking away from it.

If you really were unable to walk away and had your hands full of your own dogs, how would you manage a lead or treats?

Yes, OP asked for views and she has plenty of people telling her she did nothing wrong. The majority of people have vote OP is not being unreasonable, and she is entitled to post and get support, sympathy and reassurance.

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:34

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 17:21

It would not stop jumping at me I held my dogs, turned my back. Hard to walk away with a dogs paws on your shoulders tbh. It had already hurt one dog should I let it hurt them more and me?? Some people have made some helpful suggestion like the second lead and treats for distraction

You asked for views and have argued against everyone who disagreed with your actions. if you were capable of kicking a dog you were capable of walking away from it.

If you really were unable to walk away and had your hands full of your own dogs, how would you manage a lead or treats?

ERthree · 08/07/2026 17:26

If a dog can't behave off lead it should be on a lead at all times. My Husband shot a dog the other day, he hated doing it but the dog was chasing our livestock. The woman that owned it had no control of it. She had parked on the verge and let her dog out into a field with livestock, what a bloody idiot. She didn't even have a lead for the dog. That dog was chasing livestock for 10 mins. The damage done was awful. She now has a dead dog and our vet bills to pay. this is the second time in a year this has happened.

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 17:21

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 16:25

Not kicked it? What’s difficult to understand? Turn your back, walk away. You became the aggressor by kicking the dog, you could have made it worse.

It would not stop jumping at me I held my dogs, turned my back. Hard to walk away with a dogs paws on your shoulders tbh. It had already hurt one dog should I let it hurt them more and me?? Some people have made some helpful suggestion like the second lead and treats for distraction

OP posts:
OnDaysLikeThese · 08/07/2026 17:10

I'm sorry that you had this awful experience. What happened was unacceptable, and the man should absolutely keep his dog on a lead as he obviously can't control it off lead. I dont blame you for kicking it, protecting your dogs is your right. I've had my onlead greyhounds attacked and injured, needing vet treatment (one needed 3 operations) so have absolutely no patience with useless, irresponsible owners like this one who shouldn't even own a dog.

I'm also annoyed as a greyhound owner that this idiot is giving the breed a bad name. Most of them are OK with other dogs, but some aren't, and aadly sometimes awful things do happen when they're not under control - as happens with other breeds too. One of mine was reactive and might have bitten a dog that ran up to him, so was always kept on lead and muzzled. This should obviously be the case with any breed, whatever the size. Any dog runs the risk of being injured or even killed by running up to a reactive/aggressive on lead dog, that dogs owner is potentially risking its life. Dogs are often kept on lead for this very reason. Dogs that run up to others that are on lead, and have totally ineffectual owners who can't or won't even try to get them back when asked, is my biggest bugbear as an owner.

I carry K9 First Strike spray that's legal and harmless, and I've read accounts where it's been effective at preventing an attack. It contains essential oils that overwhelm a dogs senses, and this takes its attention off the dog or person in its sights. This might be an option for you.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 17:10

I am astounded by the amount of victim-blaming and second-guessing on this thread, along with inability to read and understand your posts. OP, you were fine to do what you did.

I hope your two dogs are OK after the trauma?

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 17:10

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:32

Or maybe the aggressive dog should have been on a lead?
🐶🤯

Mindblowing that such a device has been invented, eh?

It should, but that wasn’t the OP’s question was it? She asked was she unreasonable to kick the dog. And my answer is yes.

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 17:07

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:32

I think there were other ways to handle it. I don't think harming an animal should be anyone's go to action if they aren't in danger.

I get that the other owner was to blame, and that the dog should have been better trained. Of course the dog shouldn't have run up to her.

But we don't live in a world where you have free license to use violence just because you don't like someone's actions, if you aren't in danger.

So I should have let it continue to hurt my dog just because it’s bigger?

OP posts:
JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:47

TL:DR

All dogs should be muzzled when out in public - I'd prefer them to be on a lead, but 🤷🏻‍♀️

At least then it's just the weight of a big uncontrolled dog v a small frightened one, eh?!

I'm out.

To all the responsible doggers <cough> on the thread -
Thank you for keeping your dogs on a lead.
Thank you for not letting them jump up.
Thank you for the many hours of training and the love and effort you have made to make them the wonderful pets they are.

I'm still scared of dogs so will be sticking with my velcro cats.😽

TheSereneRaven · 08/07/2026 16:39

BillieWiper · 08/07/2026 12:53

But how would you feel if it happened? You'd be pissed off right?

I’d be pissed off at myself for allowing my dog to run up to someone and be a threat. If my dog is considered a threat to someone and they take action it’s my own fault for allowing it to happen. If another dog is running at mine with no recall I would absolutely protect mine by kicking the dog away if I had to.

Ellsternell · 08/07/2026 16:38

It’s obviously not great but I don’t necessarily disagree either. I can’t stand dogs being off the lead when they clearly aren’t trained or controlled by an owner. We live near a field and the amount of dogs that end up running around our front garden because they aren’t trained and won’t get in the car is astounding. It makes me very nervous for my elderly cat in case she ever runs out and gets caught in it all.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:37

EmailsaysOOO · 08/07/2026 16:35

I don't think every greyhound needs to be muzzled if it's on a lead.

( also wondering how the greyhounds spend their money)

Retired greyhounds are apparently really lazy and don't need much walking - I guess they left it all at the track🤷🏻‍♀️

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