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To have kicked an old man’s dog?

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itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:37

This morning I was walking my 2 very small elderly dogs on lead in the woods near me where it’s nice and cool for them.

they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face, valid I wouldn’t like that either. If a dog on or off lead just walks past or gives them a quick sniff they don’t mind. I always tell people not to let their dogs come right up to them.
Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything.

there was an old man walking a large greyhound type dog off lead and he’s miles away from it it runs at us very fast so I stick my leg in front of my dogs and the dog doesn’t stop runs straight into my leg. He then excitedly throws his foot on top of my smallest dog he squeals in pain and my other dog starts growling and showing teeth.

so I picked them up and then the big dogs starts jumping up at me to get to my dogs so I kick it away.

Old man then starts screaming at me for “abusing” his friendly dog and a lady walking passed then said to him “I saw her kick the dog”

and now I don’t know if I did too much but I was so overwhelmed and worried it would become a fight and there’s no way my old boys would do well in that situation. To make it worse the lady made a post about it in our local Facebook group (luckily no pictures) and everyone’s saying awful things but they only know one side!

For the record the dog was not hurt didn’t even squeal!

OP posts:
MyEasterBonnet · 08/07/2026 20:09

If reply anonymously on the fb page explaining what had happened and that the poster hadn’t seen it.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 20:08

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 20:03

You can’t control the actions of others, so do what you can to protect yourself. That’s not victim blaming, it’s just sensible precautionary advice.

Clothing makes no difference to whether a person will be victimised by a sexual abuser. What a grotesque analogy.

The clothing of the victim used to be a standard thing brought up at rape trials, you know, along with whether the victim had been a virgin: she was wearing a mini-skirt, so she was asking for it and deserved what she got. Quite usual defence attitude. So the victim ought to have been wearing a maxi, or better yet, a twin-set and pearls, I suppose. In the same way it is being suggested the OP ought to train her dogs not to mind being attacked, or walk her dogs in private (because she and they have been victims of an assault): you see?

nomas · 08/07/2026 20:08

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 20:03

You can’t control the actions of others, so do what you can to protect yourself. That’s not victim blaming, it’s just sensible precautionary advice.

Clothing makes no difference to whether a person will be victimised by a sexual abuser. What a grotesque analogy.

so do what you can to protect yourself

Which is what OP did.

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 20:07

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 20:04

I find it quite plausible, in fact: I suspect that if the dog was stretched up to put its paws on her shoulder(s), its belly and genitals were in easy range of a raised foot and what we used to call a "cow-kick". She wouldn't have had far to reach if the dog was that close to her. Nor would it have been possible for it to be a particularly hard kick; not enough travel to it. Just something to shock the animal into leaving off.

It’s a greyhound not a mastiff, easy to push back without kicking I’d think. But we can all only speculate, we’ve only got one side of the story and all bring our own experiences.

It obviously didn’t seem reasonable to the woman who witnessed it and posted about it in a local Facebook group.

nomas · 08/07/2026 20:07

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:44

Get a grip 🤣

OP said herself the dog was not being aggressive and just wanted to play. Some of these narratives changing the story to better justify kicking a dog are absurd. The OP was there, the OP gave the facts and asked for advice. Give advice based on the facts given or don't respond.

OP said herself the dog was not being aggressive and just wanted to play.

Nice try but OP didn't say this. Someone else suggested this.

The OP was there, the OP gave the facts and asked for advice.

Bit rich given OP said her dog was hurt by the big dog and you don't believe her.

Butterflyarms · 08/07/2026 20:04

I mean a greyhound - it was probably harmless as they are generally really lovely, but also given 90% of greyhounds in private ownership are ex-racers*, he should certainly have it on a lead and probably muzzled because their recall is completely hapless once the chase drive kicks in

*Statistic from Chatgpt

nomas · 08/07/2026 20:04

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:35

'they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face' and 'Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything' - OPs original post.

You have a strange world view where a big dog getting in the face of a small dog is the fault of the small dog for being aggressive.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 20:04

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 19:53

It all sounds quite implausible to be honest - a huge dog pinning her in place, her arms full of her own dogs and she managed to kick the dog? I’m unconvinced.

I find it quite plausible, in fact: I suspect that if the dog was stretched up to put its paws on her shoulder(s), its belly and genitals were in easy range of a raised foot and what we used to call a "cow-kick". She wouldn't have had far to reach if the dog was that close to her. Nor would it have been possible for it to be a particularly hard kick; not enough travel to it. Just something to shock the animal into leaving off.

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 20:03

BuildbyNumbere · 08/07/2026 19:41

Victim blaming much … yes, OP socialise YOUR dogs better so that they don’t react to an out of control dog with an idiotic owner who can be bothered to train his own dog and recall it properly … oh, and while your at it make sure you wear appropriate clothing so you don’t get sexually abused by some man!!

You can’t control the actions of others, so do what you can to protect yourself. That’s not victim blaming, it’s just sensible precautionary advice.

Clothing makes no difference to whether a person will be victimised by a sexual abuser. What a grotesque analogy.

CatFishBait · 08/07/2026 20:02

Dog owners need to accept that they must keep their dogs under control. It is a mystery to me why this is so difficult for them to understand and why out of control dogs have become so commonplace. Unless another walker indicates that they/ their dog would like to interact, keep the dog out of their way. If this chap had done this it would have avoided the whole incident.

I'm sorry you were subjected to this OP.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 19:58

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:44

Get a grip 🤣

OP said herself the dog was not being aggressive and just wanted to play. Some of these narratives changing the story to better justify kicking a dog are absurd. The OP was there, the OP gave the facts and asked for advice. Give advice based on the facts given or don't respond.

Ah, yes: the preacher strikes.

To quote a Child ballad:I'll come and go how I do choose, and ask no leave of thee.

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 19:53

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 18:10

Walking away when a dog has its paws on your shoulders (she did mention it was a greyhound, and that she is five feet tall) is difficult unless you kick back at it to dislodge it from its assault on you.

She wouldn't. She didn't. Nor had she been advised on this thread to carry either a spare lead or treats, at the time she was at risk from this nuisance-hound.

It all sounds quite implausible to be honest - a huge dog pinning her in place, her arms full of her own dogs and she managed to kick the dog? I’m unconvinced.

Om83 · 08/07/2026 19:52

I probably would have done the same in that situation. I have read not to pick smaller dogs up as it can trigger the prey drive in larger dogs so makes them just want to get at them more- possibly causing the jumping up on you? but equally if there is no where else to go then my instinct would be to do the same, protect my dogs and probably try to shove the other dog away somehow, with a foot/leg so be it!!

I always put my dog on the lead when I see another dog approaching on lead, and he does have good recall, but you just never know if he takes to a smell or something and could still be off after them!

Surely that’s just good dog etiquette to have them on lead if other dogs are around on lead or your dog has bad recall.

Singlemumsurvivor · 08/07/2026 19:51

I agree with you. My small dog is scared of big dogs as he’s been attacked twice. I hit an xl bully type dog that was growling and jumping up at my dog whilst I was holding him I hit it with my dogs harness that he’s actually slipped out of because he was panicking so much. My dad used to carry a metal chain link lead with him to fend off dogs from our previous dog.

Dogs should not be off lead if they cannot be controlled. Under no circumstances. Anywhere.

Tableforjoan · 08/07/2026 19:49

How does one train their dog to not get hurt being jumped and stomped on by a bigger dog.

The art of teleportation maybe. 🤔

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:46

BuildbyNumbere · 08/07/2026 19:41

Victim blaming much … yes, OP socialise YOUR dogs better so that they don’t react to an out of control dog with an idiotic owner who can be bothered to train his own dog and recall it properly … oh, and while your at it make sure you wear appropriate clothing so you don’t get sexually abused by some man!!

Wow this is getting hilarious, talk about reaching. OP asked for opinions on whether she was right and what could've been done differently, based on my experience I have responded and given advice on the facts given. Dog aggressive dogs are dangerous regardless of size, yes the owner should've had control over their dog but we only have control over our own actions and choices. She can't ensure every dog is kept on lead or trained appropriately, she can only train hers.

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:44

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 19:40

Y'know, this reminds me of people blaming Ukraine for aggressively being invaded and bombed by a nation many times its size.

Get a grip 🤣

OP said herself the dog was not being aggressive and just wanted to play. Some of these narratives changing the story to better justify kicking a dog are absurd. The OP was there, the OP gave the facts and asked for advice. Give advice based on the facts given or don't respond.

BuildbyNumbere · 08/07/2026 19:41

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:26

No bias at all, I've had all different sizes of dogs. I've just taken the time to educate myself on how to train dogs. I've also seen many little dog owners scoop up their dogs every time they see a big dog. It tells the dogs to be scared. My advice was actually quite balanced and if the OP truly wants to stop this situation occuring again then she needs to train her dogs to not be dog aggressive and train herself on how to actually help herself and her dogs.

Victim blaming much … yes, OP socialise YOUR dogs better so that they don’t react to an out of control dog with an idiotic owner who can be bothered to train his own dog and recall it properly … oh, and while your at it make sure you wear appropriate clothing so you don’t get sexually abused by some man!!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 19:40

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:35

'they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face' and 'Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything' - OPs original post.

Y'know, this reminds me of people blaming Ukraine for aggressively being invaded and bombed by a nation many times its size.

Tableforjoan · 08/07/2026 19:38

And if my dog got kicked for being badly behaved and not under my Control that would be my fault.

Fortunately when we had dogs they were well trained, didn’t jump up at people, didn’t run off after other dogs and had great recall.

If you don’t train your dog its behaviour is your fault if the dog gets injured because of that behaviour that’s again your fault as the bad owner.

Tableforjoan · 08/07/2026 19:36

If his dog cannot act appropriately it shouldn’t be off lead. It stomped on another dog and jumped up at op.

Why would I turn my back to a dog don’t can then jump up and possibly knock me over. Nope.

Op picked up her dogs to protect them from the dog than had already stomped one. Then she kicked/shoved it away with her foot. Totally acceptable.

People who can’t control their dogs shouldn’t have them off lead. The man’s dog approached op and her dogs not the other way around.

Casperroonie · 08/07/2026 19:36

Hawksie · 08/07/2026 12:39

Yes you were wrong to kick a dog.

If your dogs aren't socialized then hire a field for them to be walked in but don't expect socialised dogs to be kept on leads in areas where they can be off lead and expect them to change 363936529936 thousands of years of genetically inbred social behaviour

No she wasn't. The other dog was going for her dogs. It was an out of control dog.

Mummy3Plus1 · 08/07/2026 19:35

SummerDive · 08/07/2026 19:27

When were the OP’s dogs aggressive??

'they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face' and 'Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything' - OPs original post.

BuildbyNumbere · 08/07/2026 19:33

BillieWiper · 08/07/2026 12:50

But how would you feel if a stranger kicked one of your dogs? You can say what you like about their behavior and how nobody would ever have to do that. But if you think it's ok then surely you accept it if your own dog gets kicked?

What about if your untrained dog ran up to
an on lead dog and got badly bitten?

nomas · 08/07/2026 19:32

PloddingAlong21 · 08/07/2026 19:30

OP I would have done the same in your situation. Some are saying “he was just excited!”…but you didn’t know that and if you’re dogs were scared you of course can’t guarantee they wouldn’t respond in defense.

His dog should not have been off a lead. Very irresponsible.

What do people expect? You to stand there and let it repeatedly jump at you and await your dogs to react scared? Then that would have been your fault 🙄

Exactly. And would the man have paid OP's vet bills should her dog have been injured and needed vet care? Would he heckers.

And MNers here would have blamed OP for not picking up her dog and traumatising the poor old man.

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