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To have kicked an old man’s dog?

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itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:37

This morning I was walking my 2 very small elderly dogs on lead in the woods near me where it’s nice and cool for them.

they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face, valid I wouldn’t like that either. If a dog on or off lead just walks past or gives them a quick sniff they don’t mind. I always tell people not to let their dogs come right up to them.
Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything.

there was an old man walking a large greyhound type dog off lead and he’s miles away from it it runs at us very fast so I stick my leg in front of my dogs and the dog doesn’t stop runs straight into my leg. He then excitedly throws his foot on top of my smallest dog he squeals in pain and my other dog starts growling and showing teeth.

so I picked them up and then the big dogs starts jumping up at me to get to my dogs so I kick it away.

Old man then starts screaming at me for “abusing” his friendly dog and a lady walking passed then said to him “I saw her kick the dog”

and now I don’t know if I did too much but I was so overwhelmed and worried it would become a fight and there’s no way my old boys would do well in that situation. To make it worse the lady made a post about it in our local Facebook group (luckily no pictures) and everyone’s saying awful things but they only know one side!

For the record the dog was not hurt didn’t even squeal!

OP posts:
itsme189 · 08/07/2026 13:24

BatsInHibernation · 08/07/2026 13:17

You turn your back on the dog when it's jumping up at you.
Harder to do when you are trying to hold two smaller dogs admittedly.
Of course you should not have kicked the dog. The only excuse for kicking the dog would have been if it was biting you or your dogs.
Dog owners put me off having a dog. The greyhound type should not be off lead if he can't resist running up to on-lead dogs. The on-lead dogs could be extremely reactive and it could be the greyhound who gets badly hurt next time.
Equally, kicking a dog for being a dog is obviously pretty bad form. It's not clear whether your kick was a proper booting or more of a shove off with a leg... The former is horrible and could cause real damage, the latter, not really so bad in the circumstances.
I used to have dogs and I've been had a go at for my off lead dog having fun with another off lead dog, and also for snapping a lead on mine as we approach a dog being walked on lead ❓

I didn’t kick it hard I just kicked it to get it off me like I said he was not hurt and did not squeal or whimper unlike my dog who was hurt when he had his head smacked into the ground. Dogs should be trained not to jump all over someone and run up and hurt other dogs, that’s not just a dog being a dog imo. Like others said maybe a stick or corrective spray would be good in future!

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chirrupybird · 08/07/2026 13:24

CharlotteSometimes1 · 08/07/2026 12:52

The dog jumped at you because you picked up your dogs, you could have dealt with it better.

One of her dogs had already been hurt she picked them up to protect them. What do you do if a big dog jumps on your elderly small dog causing it to cry in pain? I would have kicked it then if the owner couldn't call it off, do you have to wait till it really injures your dog?

KrazyKatty · 08/07/2026 13:23

Unfortunately, there are too many dog owning absolute morons around who have zero control of their dogs so YANBU in the slightest. The man shouldn’t have allowed it to stray so far away from him.

I walk my large dog off lead in the woods and he’s generally calm and well behaved but if he got too close to someone and was jumping up at them and they kicked out at him, I wouldn’t get annoyed with them. It would be my fault for not having him under control.

For the record, I doubt he’d ever do that as he’s 9 and pretty chilled, but you can never say never!

Starlight7080 · 08/07/2026 13:23

Of course kicking a dog to the point that a random person clicked to it very clearly and saw it seemed off is bad.
And yes he should have better control of his dog.
But it does sound like you overreacting made it all worse.
Did your dog actually get hurt? Or did it shout as a natural response to having another dog playfully push its face down? As that happens all the time with my dog and my sisters much bigger dog. It doesnt actually hurt her.
Also in future just turn your back to the dog jumping up. Even with your dogs in your hands. Dont kick it. It wasn't attacking you.

RudolphTheReindeer · 08/07/2026 13:23

He had an out of control dog so tough shit really. Don't want your dog kicked keep it under control!

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/07/2026 13:23

Hawksie · 08/07/2026 12:39

Yes you were wrong to kick a dog.

If your dogs aren't socialized then hire a field for them to be walked in but don't expect socialised dogs to be kept on leads in areas where they can be off lead and expect them to change 363936529936 thousands of years of genetically inbred social behaviour

Not being happy with a much larger, strange dog jumping on them absolutely does not mean 'not socialised'.

Once the OP had picked up both dogs - necessary for safety given the incoming dog was larger and was splatting them and not heeding their clear 'go away' communications, she had no hands free, what was she supposed to do, stand there like a lemon whilst this large dog jumps and snaps at her/her dogs?

The other dogs owner should have had their dog on a long line and harness and muzzled if he's likely to grab/snap, or should train a solid recall.

Letting an off lead dog hurtle up into other dogs spaces is NOT acceptable and is a very quick route to creating fearful, reactive, aggressive dogs, particularly if those dogs are on lead and unable to run away/get more space for themselves.

Passaggressfedup · 08/07/2026 13:23

I'm godsmacked every day you were wrong! I'm normally defending any animal hurt but in that case it sounds like it was justified. Unless you kicked it hard and I hired it.

What is their side of the sort that fit everyone on FB on their side?

Justveryveryangry · 08/07/2026 13:21

Mistymaglets · 08/07/2026 13:14

Her dogs were not the aggressors.
Her dogs reacted to the greyhound.

" Abuse" is an ridiculously emotional term for a knee jerk ( literally) reaction that saved all dogs from a possible escalation.

Indeed, some people can’t help themselves and cry “abuse” at everything that’s in any way not passive… it debases the word.

PilotingAWail · 08/07/2026 13:21

From the position of having both of your dogs in your arms, your only defense then became your feet/legs.
I would recommend seeking out some online advice from a reputable trainer about how to handle that scenario if it happens again, to make it safe for you and your dogs.
The safety of the off leash dog is the responsibility of the owner/walker.
If you choose to walk your dog off lead and without solid recall (unusual in sighthounds) then you risk situations like this or worse, where your dog ends up in a fight.
Not your dogs fault. Yours.

Freda69 · 08/07/2026 13:21

I have a dog and you are totally in the right. His dog was not under his control and should not have been pestering you and your dogs.

If it was a greyhound it should always be on a lead as they can just bolt after anything.
I have 2 hip replacements and get quite concerned if a dog starts running around me and my dog in case I get pulled over.

Auroraloves · 08/07/2026 13:20

Hawksie · 08/07/2026 12:39

Yes you were wrong to kick a dog.

If your dogs aren't socialized then hire a field for them to be walked in but don't expect socialised dogs to be kept on leads in areas where they can be off lead and expect them to change 363936529936 thousands of years of genetically inbred social behaviour

This dog wasn’t socialised it was a fucking nuisance

Swimbea · 08/07/2026 13:20

Hawksie · 08/07/2026 12:39

Yes you were wrong to kick a dog.

If your dogs aren't socialized then hire a field for them to be walked in but don't expect socialised dogs to be kept on leads in areas where they can be off lead and expect them to change 363936529936 thousands of years of genetically inbred social behaviour

What a load of absolute shite. People like you are the problem.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/07/2026 13:18

Mistymaglets · 08/07/2026 13:16

She literally says the dog was jumping up at her to get to her dogs.

That's pretty outrageous behaviour in canine and human terms !

But she acknowledges the dog was not being aggressive. If you think it’s absolutely fine to kick a ‘frail old mans’ dog then you do you. But I don’t think it was ok, and neither does the woman who wasn’t involved but witnessed it.

RecyclingSal · 08/07/2026 13:18

I would kick a dog to protect my dog! My dog has been attacked my dogs which should NEVER be off a lead and then the owners accept zero responsibility as their dogs are "usually so friendly" eyeroll.

My boy is a big Labrador and I've had to physically pick him up after a dog went for him and the owner said to me "Oh, it's just a lot of noise".

Kick the dog if it means your dogs are protected. The owner will soon learn!

ImPamDoove · 08/07/2026 13:18

You were wrong. Don’t kick dogs and don’t pick up yours to separate them. If there’s one thing guaranteed to make another dog go garretty - it’s this.

Justveryveryangry · 08/07/2026 13:18

BillieWiper · 08/07/2026 12:50

But how would you feel if a stranger kicked one of your dogs? You can say what you like about their behavior and how nobody would ever have to do that. But if you think it's ok then surely you accept it if your own dog gets kicked?

Really it depends on the kick.

A toe poke that barely made contact to ward him off, and that barely caused any discomfort let alone pain = no problem.

A full-bodied boot in the stomach if he was simply having a little sniff = big problem!

BatsInHibernation · 08/07/2026 13:17

You turn your back on the dog when it's jumping up at you.
Harder to do when you are trying to hold two smaller dogs admittedly.
Of course you should not have kicked the dog. The only excuse for kicking the dog would have been if it was biting you or your dogs.
Dog owners put me off having a dog. The greyhound type should not be off lead if he can't resist running up to on-lead dogs. The on-lead dogs could be extremely reactive and it could be the greyhound who gets badly hurt next time.
Equally, kicking a dog for being a dog is obviously pretty bad form. It's not clear whether your kick was a proper booting or more of a shove off with a leg... The former is horrible and could cause real damage, the latter, not really so bad in the circumstances.
I used to have dogs and I've been had a go at for my off lead dog having fun with another off lead dog, and also for snapping a lead on mine as we approach a dog being walked on lead ❓

Idontjetwashthefucker · 08/07/2026 13:17

Blades2 · 08/07/2026 13:15

Aye, are you a parrot?
socialised dogs even on leads aren’t nervous of other dogs coming over to them,

Yes but there could have been a number of reasons why her dogs were on lead, off lead dogs shouldn't have been able to approach.

You sure can tell who the shit dog owners are

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 13:17

Blades2 · 08/07/2026 13:13

Why ask when you’re defending yourself when everyone says you were unreasonable? Socialise your dogs better. And keep your feet to yourself.

Like I’ve said many times if someone has an alternative way I could have dealt with it I’m all ears. So far nobody has! They are socialised but shocking as it may be they don’t like being trodden on. Like I’ve also said many dogs come up to them for a quick sniff and owners call them back when I ask them to. They have never bothered another dog on or off leash unless they get all up in their face!

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Pearlstillsinging · 08/07/2026 13:16

The greyhound should not have been in a position to be able to rush up to your dogs OP.
However picking up your small dog is asking the other dog to jump up you. It's always best to leave your dogs on the ground if at all possible.
If you carry a stick on your walks that is always useful as a deterrent or a barrier. It drives me mad when people allow their dogs to approach ours, when they are under close control.
Some of these replies have me shaking my head in despair.

Mistymaglets · 08/07/2026 13:16

ToKittyornottoKitty · 08/07/2026 13:13

I agree, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to kick the dog. It had not turned aggressive.

She literally says the dog was jumping up at her to get to her dogs.

That's pretty outrageous behaviour in canine and human terms !

Glitchymn1 · 08/07/2026 13:16

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:40

if you can’t control your dog they shouldn’t be off lead man could not get his dog to come back to him? What was I supposed to do?

Incredibly stupid to kick it, I hope you only did this because you knew it was friendly. Had it been nasty it could have taken your leg and dragged you down and then attacked your dogs. You never use your leg to kick a dog-carry a stick if you are scared.

If I kept my dog on a lead I’m not sure I’d venture somewhere that boisterous dogs might be off lead. Picking both dogs up escalates a situation too as your own dogs are now protecting you. I’ve never understood why people do this. (I get why you want to protect your dogs and it’s annoying etc as old dog energy will never match young pup energy.)
I used to stand in front of my elderly Lab and say a firm, loud NO/AWAY. Or just grabbed the collar and escorted it to the owner, explaining why.

I don’t think anyone heads out thinking I hope my dog jumps up at people and scares them, I think they reframe it as they’re only friendly etc. The person shouldn’t have posted on socials either, they should’ve accepted their dog was being a yob, grabbed it, apologised and moved on. No harm was done.

Victorius19 · 08/07/2026 13:16

I've got an older cocker spaniel with a heart condition, and he's totally deaf so has to be kept on a lead. We used to bump regularly into a lady walking a greyhound, who thought other peoples dogs were there purely to play with hers and tire it out Hmm one day it knocked my boy flying and I really did kick off at her for not having any control over it. That ended up being posted all over FB as she was so offended..... I took the higher ground and ignored it. I just don't walk that way anymore so not to bump into her.

PermanentlyExhaustedPigeonZZZ · 08/07/2026 13:15

I'd have probably turned my back on the dog rather than kick, but I wasn't there and hindsight is 20:20

PermanentlyExhaustedPigeonZZZ · 08/07/2026 13:15

I'd have probably turned my back on the dog rather than kick, but I wasn't there and hindsight is 20:20