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To have kicked an old man’s dog?

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itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:37

This morning I was walking my 2 very small elderly dogs on lead in the woods near me where it’s nice and cool for them.

they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face, valid I wouldn’t like that either. If a dog on or off lead just walks past or gives them a quick sniff they don’t mind. I always tell people not to let their dogs come right up to them.
Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything.

there was an old man walking a large greyhound type dog off lead and he’s miles away from it it runs at us very fast so I stick my leg in front of my dogs and the dog doesn’t stop runs straight into my leg. He then excitedly throws his foot on top of my smallest dog he squeals in pain and my other dog starts growling and showing teeth.

so I picked them up and then the big dogs starts jumping up at me to get to my dogs so I kick it away.

Old man then starts screaming at me for “abusing” his friendly dog and a lady walking passed then said to him “I saw her kick the dog”

and now I don’t know if I did too much but I was so overwhelmed and worried it would become a fight and there’s no way my old boys would do well in that situation. To make it worse the lady made a post about it in our local Facebook group (luckily no pictures) and everyone’s saying awful things but they only know one side!

For the record the dog was not hurt didn’t even squeal!

OP posts:
2BarbieOrNot2Barbie · 08/07/2026 16:37

I also agree with you OP. A dog should not be allowed to jump up on you and if it does, consequences are what they are. I jog and I have regularly been jumped on by off leash dogs. I’m not afraid of dogs and usually I manage OK but it is also clear in my mind that if a dog starts to bite, it is getting a kick and I have no compunction. Off leash dogs should be under the control of their owner st all times. If they have no recall, they should not be off a leash in a public place.

my old dog was reactive to other dogs due to a traumatic start to her life (rescue). As a result she was never off her leash. 🙁 But it was the only responsible thing to do as I couldn’t guarantee her recall if she was approached by another dog.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 16:36

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:30

If the concern was balance I don't think kicking would have helped really.

I think the concern might have been that a dog might knock her over no matter how good her balance would be if she was not being pushed over by 35-40kg or so of excited and uncontrolled dog.

OneNewLeader · 08/07/2026 16:35

Ignore FB post.
Be glad you’re all OK, had a little dog that was once bitten by a rescue greyhound. Greyhound had escaped. The owner was mortified. We handled it like adults.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:35

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:32

I think there were other ways to handle it. I don't think harming an animal should be anyone's go to action if they aren't in danger.

I get that the other owner was to blame, and that the dog should have been better trained. Of course the dog shouldn't have run up to her.

But we don't live in a world where you have free license to use violence just because you don't like someone's actions, if you aren't in danger.

She felt her dogs were in danger = she took appropriate measures.

EmailsaysOOO · 08/07/2026 16:35

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:08

Greyhounds are trained to chase after a "fake" rabbit for money.

If it's an ex-racer (and who knows, there isn't a big flashing halo over them) it's prey driven and should be muzzled.

I don't think every greyhound needs to be muzzled if it's on a lead.

( also wondering how the greyhounds spend their money)

Boomer55 · 08/07/2026 16:33

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:37

This morning I was walking my 2 very small elderly dogs on lead in the woods near me where it’s nice and cool for them.

they love people but they don’t love when dogs run up to them and get all in their face, valid I wouldn’t like that either. If a dog on or off lead just walks past or gives them a quick sniff they don’t mind. I always tell people not to let their dogs come right up to them.
Theyve never bitten just growled and I just don’t want to risk anything.

there was an old man walking a large greyhound type dog off lead and he’s miles away from it it runs at us very fast so I stick my leg in front of my dogs and the dog doesn’t stop runs straight into my leg. He then excitedly throws his foot on top of my smallest dog he squeals in pain and my other dog starts growling and showing teeth.

so I picked them up and then the big dogs starts jumping up at me to get to my dogs so I kick it away.

Old man then starts screaming at me for “abusing” his friendly dog and a lady walking passed then said to him “I saw her kick the dog”

and now I don’t know if I did too much but I was so overwhelmed and worried it would become a fight and there’s no way my old boys would do well in that situation. To make it worse the lady made a post about it in our local Facebook group (luckily no pictures) and everyone’s saying awful things but they only know one side!

For the record the dog was not hurt didn’t even squeal!

I’d have done the same.

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:32

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:25

In the few seconds OP had to consider her response when the BIG DOG was running - UNCONTROLLED- at her, do you really, honestly think a BIG dog V two SMALL older dogs would be safe for the smaller dogs even if the big dog just "Wanted to be friends"?

I think there were other ways to handle it. I don't think harming an animal should be anyone's go to action if they aren't in danger.

I get that the other owner was to blame, and that the dog should have been better trained. Of course the dog shouldn't have run up to her.

But we don't live in a world where you have free license to use violence just because you don't like someone's actions, if you aren't in danger.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:32

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 16:25

Not kicked it? What’s difficult to understand? Turn your back, walk away. You became the aggressor by kicking the dog, you could have made it worse.

Or maybe the aggressive dog should have been on a lead?
🐶🤯

Mindblowing that such a device has been invented, eh?

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:30

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 16:26

Stompythedinosaur
Jumping at doesn't mean attacking, does it? I'm imagining an excited jumpy dog. Obviously that shouldn't happen, but not fair to kick a dog to correct bad behaviour.

OP is five feet tall and her arms were full, she would have been unable to catch herself if she fell. Or else she'd have had to drop her dogs, which for all she knew the greyhound regarded as prey.

If the greyhound was jumping at her, it could easily have knocked her over.

Oh dear.

Oh well, hip replacement is easy these days.... And a broken wrist is really no particular problem, after all.

If the concern was balance I don't think kicking would have helped really.

Chipsahoy · 08/07/2026 16:28

I’d have kicked it too. I have a big friendly dog. I’ve also trained her and keep her on the lead. Dog owner needs a kick.

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:27

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:20

Jumping does mean attacking to me.

But then, been there...still got the scars from the "he's just excited/being friendly" fuckwit of a dog with a cunty owner 50 yrs later...

If the op was being attacked by the dog she had the right to defend herself, absolutely. I don't imagine anyone disagreeing with that.

I just think it would have been mentioned if the dog was snapping or biting.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 16:26

Stompythedinosaur
Jumping at doesn't mean attacking, does it? I'm imagining an excited jumpy dog. Obviously that shouldn't happen, but not fair to kick a dog to correct bad behaviour.

OP is five feet tall and her arms were full, she would have been unable to catch herself if she fell. Or else she'd have had to drop her dogs, which for all she knew the greyhound regarded as prey.

If the greyhound was jumping at her, it could easily have knocked her over.

Oh dear.

Oh well, hip replacement is easy these days.... And a broken wrist is really no particular problem, after all.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:25

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:14

Jumping at doesn't mean attacking, does it? I'm imagining an excited jumpy dog. Obviously that shouldn't happen, but not fair to kick a dog to correct bad behaviour.

If it was a "teeth out and jumping to bite at the op and her dogs" that's a different situation. But I feel like the op would have said that, if that's what happened?

In the few seconds OP had to consider her response when the BIG DOG was running - UNCONTROLLED- at her, do you really, honestly think a BIG dog V two SMALL older dogs would be safe for the smaller dogs even if the big dog just "Wanted to be friends"?

Allisnotlost1 · 08/07/2026 16:25

itsme189 · 08/07/2026 12:49

What should I have done then? I’m honestly happy to hear an alternative but it’s a big dog jumping all over me and I had a dog in each arm!

Not kicked it? What’s difficult to understand? Turn your back, walk away. You became the aggressor by kicking the dog, you could have made it worse.

SilverTotoro · 08/07/2026 16:21

I also have a small elderly dog and in the moment you did what you needed to to protect your dogs. I’ve had to intervene a number of times when out of control big dogs with no recall have come charging over to mine fortunately yelling or shooing them away has worked but if it didn’t I’d do what you did if there was no alternative.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:20

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:14

Jumping at doesn't mean attacking, does it? I'm imagining an excited jumpy dog. Obviously that shouldn't happen, but not fair to kick a dog to correct bad behaviour.

If it was a "teeth out and jumping to bite at the op and her dogs" that's a different situation. But I feel like the op would have said that, if that's what happened?

Jumping does mean attacking to me.

But then, been there...still got the scars from the "he's just excited/being friendly" fuckwit of a dog with a cunty owner 50 yrs later...

Whenthepartiesover · 08/07/2026 16:18

Reply to the post anonymously asking why the dog was so close to someone that obviously didn't want it there and where was the owner whilst the happened. The dog was out of control and therefore the owner was breaking the law, thankfully the dog only recieved a kick rather than coming to harm from an aggresive dog or car which seems inevitable if the dog is allowed to behave like this regularly.

Yellowpapersun · 08/07/2026 16:18

No, you were not in the wrong. You were fully in control of your dogs, he was not in control of his. You were only protecting your dogs. The woman who stuck her nose in should mind her own business, nosey cow.

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:17

SummerDive · 08/07/2026 16:08

And you think it’s a good answer?!?

Yes.

Can you explain in small words why it isn't?

It's my answer (whilst fending off my very gentle cat who can't catch a fly).

Did you see my earlier post? Maybe scroll back a bit.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/07/2026 16:17

WanderingStar26
I’d turn partially away from the dog with my arms folded.

Um... but what do you do with the two elderly, frightened dogs in your arms, at this point? Because that's what the OP was coping with: both arms fully occupied and a large out of control dog leaping up at her trying to get at them.

Was he doing that to make friends with them even though they were snarling at him and clearly not inclined to be his fwends, or to attack them? Who can say. Greyhounds do kill smaller dogs quite often, though, so alarm about them from smaller dogs' owners is justified in general.

If she hadn't picked them up the situation would have been no easier: two small, frightened dogs on the ground, the greyhound interested primarily in them. He isn't going to give a damn about her turning her back or crossing her arms, because she is not what he has his attention on.

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 08/07/2026 16:17

YADNBU

His dog was not under control so he was breaking the law.

Kicking/kneeing a dog for fun obviously wouldn't be ok, but as your only defence in that situation, it was proportionate and reasonable.

BeBreezyPlum · 08/07/2026 16:14

BeSunnyLemonSheep · 08/07/2026 12:47

YANBU. Nothing wrong with kicking a dog in this situation.

I don’t have dogs but I would absolutely be kicking any that came too close to me or my kids. Not appropriate. Don’t like it? Don’t let your mutt come up to strangers 🤷‍♀️

This.

Stompythedinosaur · 08/07/2026 16:14

nomas · 08/07/2026 14:57

The greyhound was jumping at the dogs that OP was carrying, so yes, the kick was in defence.

OP was in protective mode, not punishment mode.

Jumping at doesn't mean attacking, does it? I'm imagining an excited jumpy dog. Obviously that shouldn't happen, but not fair to kick a dog to correct bad behaviour.

If it was a "teeth out and jumping to bite at the op and her dogs" that's a different situation. But I feel like the op would have said that, if that's what happened?

JoshLymanSwagger · 08/07/2026 16:13

Yup.

All dogs should be muzzled in public.

SummerDive · 08/07/2026 16:13

SandyHappy · 08/07/2026 16:07

As a dog owner he was 100% in the bloody wrong, and all the idiots on here who think the dog was 'playing' and 'socialising' are just as stupid .. the dog's intentions are irrelevant, having your dogs on lead is a clear signal that you don't want off lead dogs to run over to you. Anyone letting their dog do that is a fucking half wit and shouldn't have a dog.

But I don't agree with how you handled it, you should have stood your ground in front of your dogs by holding them behind you and circling round, the second you picked them up you lose all control and you create chaos.. this should be a complete last resort for if your dog is being attacked.

Whenever this has happened to us, and it has happened many many times over the years, I lead my dog/s away, sometimes back towards their stupid owners, if my dog is being pestered/hurt I would physically block them, either grab the other dog and let go of mine, or if my dog was being attacked I would physically grab hold of their dog and hurt it as hard as I could, zero fucks given.

The problem here is it doesn't sound like the dog was aggressive, and you panicked which escalated the situation.

And if the dog isn’t just playing but is aggressive, you … put yourself in front of the dog and put yourself in arm’s way at the same time?

That’s a serious question from someone who’d be terrified in that situation (so I’d just hold still, praying for the owner to do something. You know the famous Freeze reaction).

That dog should never have been let to run towards the OP full stop.
Telling the OP she didn’t react well is not here nor there. The first step is getting your dig under control. Otherwise you fall into victim blaming.