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Neighbours angry at DS for snapping back and daughter’s homophobia - hypocrisy??

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TheNoisyDeer · 07/07/2026 20:33

DS, 13, came out in Year 6 at the age of 10 and he has struggled with making friends ever since. His boy friends always used to make him the butt of the joke so he stopped being friends with them. He has a couple of female friends now but he still feels like he can’t be himself around them because they give him the side eye when they talk about boys and he talks about boys too. Due to this he feels on the defence when his sexuality is spoken about.

I invited our neighbours over earlier this evening for chat and drinks in the sunshine and the younger girl, 8, overheard her sister (the older daughter), 11, talking to DS about their crushes. She laughed at him, made a few comments about it being weird and called him a “gay boy”. I don’t know whether she’d picked it up from school or somewhere, but DS was clearly upset. He snapped and called her “a stupid bitch” and to “f off”.

There was immediate anger from her parents because she’s only 8 and they said there was no excuse for speaking to a young girl like that and demanded I tell him off. The older daughter also took her side and shouted at him to not talk to her sister like that. He looked startled, humiliated and ran inside.

I went inside and spoke to him about the language he used and said it wasn’t acceptable, especially to a girl that young, but I also told him I understood why he was hurt and that nobody should mock someone’s sexuality. DS said he didn’t care how old she was because she’d been horrible to him first and then refused to go back outside and apologise. I explained this to my neighbours and the mum said she wanted to leave and won’t put up with her daughters being spoken to in that manner and they left.

Ideally I would have expected the children to apologise to each other, preferably her first as she started it and then moved on but I was shocked by their reaction to just leave. We’ve been good friends for years and now I feel hurt by their lack of accountability for the homophobia and hypocrisy. I wouldn’t like the friendship to end but I won’t be bowing down to them.

AIBU for thinking both children were in the wrong but both the daughter and parents are more so?

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kittensinthekitchen · 07/07/2026 21:33

Weird

Mistymaglets · 07/07/2026 21:33

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:23

She was being a bitch by being homophobic. He had a point.

She's EIGHT years old and you're calling her a bitch????

Wow.

YoshiIsCute · 07/07/2026 21:32

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:29

So he needs to mind his manners but it’s okay for her to be homophobic? Oh okay then…

No, it’s not “ok” for her, but you can’t hold a 13 year old and an 8 year old up to the same standard. As a PP said, an 8 year old needs educating , a 13 old should know better and needs disciplining

DaysIllRememberAllMyLife · 07/07/2026 21:32

She's 8 and being called a bitch and to fuck off from a boy old enough to know better.

MatchaTea1 · 07/07/2026 21:31

Ponoka7 · 07/07/2026 21:26

"He has a couple of female friends now but he still feels like he can’t be himself around them because they give him the side eye when they talk about boys and he talks about boys too. Due to this he feels on the defence when his sexuality is spoken about."
I'd say there's something going very wrong with how far he is talking about sex and how he views girls.

Yes I thought this too, your son needs to dial it down. I'm sure the child's mother had a word with her daughter when they got home, but I don't think an 8 year old would really understand or intend homophobia. A 13 year old male however should not be calling any female a bitch, especially not a child.

Your attitude towards your son, taking his side when what he did was unacceptable is probably why he has a terrible attitude himself and no friends..

DaysIllRememberAllMyLife · 07/07/2026 21:30

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:23

She was being a bitch by being homophobic. He had a point.

She's 8. 8!

TheNoisyDeer · 07/07/2026 21:30

Ponoka7 · 07/07/2026 21:26

"He has a couple of female friends now but he still feels like he can’t be himself around them because they give him the side eye when they talk about boys and he talks about boys too. Due to this he feels on the defence when his sexuality is spoken about."
I'd say there's something going very wrong with how far he is talking about sex and how he views girls.

So straight people can talk about crushes but LGBT people can’t? C’mon now you know that’s a double standard.

I don’t know why people think I’m all on his side when I’ve blatantly said he was inappropriate and should have apologised. If it were up to me they’d have apologised to each other and moved on.

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Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:29

ThejoyofNC · 07/07/2026 21:26

Don't be so ridiculous.

So he needs to mind his manners but it’s okay for her to be homophobic? Oh okay then…

GregoryFluff · 07/07/2026 21:29

Userjal · 07/07/2026 21:27

She was homophobic

She's 8
Be for real

Userjal · 07/07/2026 21:27

GregoryFluff · 07/07/2026 20:51

He called a little child a bitch. Jesus Christ, his misogyny is showing. So she either didn't use the right language because she is small, or at worst, very mildly teased him, so he got aggressive with her. She dented his pride and ego, so he booted off.
I wouldn't want him anywhere near my daughters either

She was homophobic

JemimaTiggywinkles · 07/07/2026 21:27

8yo using homophobic (or sexist, racist etc) language needs educating. 13yo telling an 8yo to fuck off and calling her a bitch needs discipline.

ThejoyofNC · 07/07/2026 21:26

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:23

She was being a bitch by being homophobic. He had a point.

Don't be so ridiculous.

Ponoka7 · 07/07/2026 21:26

"He has a couple of female friends now but he still feels like he can’t be himself around them because they give him the side eye when they talk about boys and he talks about boys too. Due to this he feels on the defence when his sexuality is spoken about."
I'd say there's something going very wrong with how far he is talking about sex and how he views girls.

TheBossOfMe · 07/07/2026 21:25

A 13 year old shouldn’t be talking to an 11 year old about crushes, and certainly not where an 8 year old can hear the conversation

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 07/07/2026 21:25

Whiski · 07/07/2026 21:24

How can a 8 year old be a bitch? These comments from pp are bizarre

insane.

Motnigh · 07/07/2026 21:25

FinalFrog · 07/07/2026 21:08

I would find an 11 year old and a 13 year old discussing “crushes” an inappropriate conversation.

Calling someone a gay boy. Also vile.

Telling a child to eff off. Disgusting.

No one is coming out of this well.

This.

ThejoyofNC · 07/07/2026 21:25

All I'm getting from you is that your son can do no wrong.

I've never heard of a 10 year old "coming out" (I hate that term and think it's very outdated) before.

Whiski · 07/07/2026 21:24

How can a 8 year old be a bitch? These comments from pp are bizarre

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 07/07/2026 21:23

For me the difference is she is 8 and needs to be educated about what is unacceptable to say.

A 13yr old knows what is unacceptable but still chose to be vile.

The fact that you had to ask him to apologise and yet he refused highlights we all have different parenting methods. Good luck!

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:23

She was being a bitch by being homophobic. He had a point.

Larrythecatforpm · 07/07/2026 21:22

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · 07/07/2026 21:21

Why is your 13 year old talking to an 8 year old about crushes?! That is pretty weird!

regardless your son called a much younger child an incredibly offensive misogynist term because he lost his temper. Yabu. He should apologise and so should you.
no she shouldn’t have said that but she’s 8 - she’s probably completely unaware.

The 8 year old overheard if you actually read it correctly.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · 07/07/2026 21:22

MyLimeGuide · 07/07/2026 21:21

Your son's reaction was a bit OTT but he was just being honest - she was being a bitch!

You are calling a child a bitch? @MyLimeGuide ?

MyLimeGuide · 07/07/2026 21:21

Your son's reaction was a bit OTT but he was just being honest - she was being a bitch!

yoursweetpotatoesarebland · 07/07/2026 21:21

Why is your 13 year old talking to an 8 year old about crushes?! That is pretty weird!

regardless your son called a much younger child an incredibly offensive misogynist term because he lost his temper. Yabu. He should apologise and so should you.
no she shouldn’t have said that but she’s 8 - she’s probably completely unaware.

SomeOtherUser · 07/07/2026 21:20

I'm surprised at some of these comments. His response was not great but an eight-year-old is plenty old enough to know not to mock people. Both kids behaved badly and both should have apologised.