Neighbours angry at DS for snapping back and daughter’s homophobia - hypocrisy??

And that you're in the "she's a little girl and didn't understand what she was saying whilst the nasty boy was being so abusive"

Exactly

We all know using the N word is one of the absolutely worst things you can say. And that it's a racist term

Bitch is a fairly tame word, you can say it without censorship and most people don't take it as a misogynistic term

It’s very clear you’re in the “she’s an evil bitch, she got what’s coming” camp!

He's experienced years of homophobic abuse and what happened was another case of homophobic abuse. He's a 13 year old boy who has all the hormones and emotional instability that goes with it

It's completely understandable, if extreme

There is zero comparison.

How is his sexuality a choice?

And those who are excusing the 8 year old's homophobic comments because she's "just a little girl"

I'm pointing out that a term can have different connotations depending on who is speaking. A misogynistic term said by a man is worse than from a woman.

But no one on here no one is saying 8 year old can't be homophobic apparently 😒

Just people excusing them entirely

I don't think the 13 year olds behaviour is understandable at all. It's way over the top, you don't go round calling 8 year olds bitches and telling them to fuck off at all. Ever. He really should know that. She offended him but she's very young and of course she should be told off and educated and told not to say anything like that again but you cannot say his reaction was proportionate.

The point is that the parents of the 8 year old need to take responsibility for educating her out of her homophobia. The 13 year olds reaction was understandable given his situation. So long as the 8 year olds parents collaborate in the harassment of the 13 year old they deserve condemnation.

If in a normal social context like this an 8 year old white child had called a 13 year old black child a n**r and the black child had reacted in the same way as the 13 year old did in this case what would your view of the 13 year olds behaviour be?

This is about the third wind 'em up and watch 'em go thread I've seen on here today.

I do think context is important. An 8yo is unlikely to have experienced a boy talking about his male crushes with girls before. I could see my dd (9) experiencing that as 'weird' and lacking the social awareness or vocabulary to describe it differently. She's also very literal and would see no problem describing him as a 'gay boy' because, well, he is. But she wouldn't have said it in a mocking way, which I'm assuming the girl did, it would have been a statement of fact. Either way, there's a huge maturity and understanding gap between an 8 and a 13yo, and on balance I think I'd have taken real issue with my ds responding in that way. I do actually have a 15yo ds, and there's absolutely no way he'd speak to an 8yo like that even a couple of years ago. Neither child comes out of this well, but given the age difference I'd err on the side of words with both children, no forced apologies, just an explanation of each other's perspectives and where/ why it went wrong.

Why so?

Don’t be so utterly ridiculous.

And your thoughts if the 13 yo called someone at school a stupid bitch and to fuck off?
are you in the “yay! Fantastic! Bet the bitch deserved it!!”

She laughed at him, told him he was weird and called him a gay boy, no 8 year olds are not allowed to be ignorant, homophobic or offensive hence how it would be dealt with severely if she spoke like that at school.

But you have to take account of who said it. 8 year olds are allowed to be ignorant. She will learn in due course. The reaction was out of order and refusal to apologise ridiculous.

He wasn't talking to her...

This thread is clearly divided into those who see that both 8 and 13 were wrong and should learn from this and their inappropriate behaviour.
and those who would delightedly revel in calling the 8 yo a bitch, tell her whatever happened she deserved it and had it coming, and the 13 yo was righteous in his actions

The type of language she used absolutely does.

You’re equating bitch with the n word!!Seriously.

What about other slurs, for example the 'n word'? If it's ok for black singers to use it in their music does that mean every white person can say it too? Obviously not.

Bit of a stretch to accuse an 8 year old girl of contributing to gay men's suicide. You (and he) need to chill out.