Neighbours angry at DS for snapping back and daughter’s homophobia - hypocrisy??

What are you on about? An 8-year-old child does not know what 'homophobia' is.
Jeez. Enough. This thread is just daft.

The 8 -year-old should definitely be told that her language was very bad and she should apologise or write a note but the decision is up to her parents. Your son needs to develop his interests whether it’s sport or music theatre computers books and needs to learn what to do when he feels upset because what is doing right now is no good at all

OP did tell her DS he was out of order and needed to apologise ....

Yes, the 8 year old used homophobic language and attitude. It's not ridiculous

I completely agree with your description of the n word. I would just add that it has been reclaimed by Black people.

So the fact that bitch has been reclaimed by women is irrelevant. A man saying 'stupid bitch' is being misogynistic. Andrew Tate and his followers often use the word and they do not mean it in a "strong-willed and independent" way.

Homophobia from an 8 is not ridiculous it’s devastating for the children on the end of it.

Oh don't be silly.
The little girl should have been told not to say what she did by her parents as it's not nice.

and the boy told by his parents his behaviour was out of order. His father ideally.
Look son I know you're having a tough time but it's not on to speak like that...

Homophobia from an 8-year-old? Ridiculous.

Both sets of parents need to grow the fuck up and parent their kids.

Because I read what they said

Vitriolic? 🤣🤣

Yes, if an 8 year old boy had used homophobic insults and laughed at someone who was gay who then told him to "Fuck off you cock/arsehole/twat/bastard..." then I'd be sympathetic to the victim whilst also thinking they reacted a little strongly (but understandably) the same as I do here

I do,however, suspect if the 13 year old was a girl who had been laughed at by an 8 year old boy and called a "lezza/lesbo/weird lesbian" and she had reacted you'd fully be on her side

Honestly HOW do you make that reach?!

Ah yes, you are completely excusing her then

No, but can see you’re not planning to desist with the frankly disturbing behaviours towards a child!
wonder if you’d be so vitriolic if it had been an 8 yo boy?

No the op has done nothing wrong. Not crap parenting all round. Just crap parenting from the parents raising a homophobic child who then sat back and did nothing when their child subjected another child to homophobia. Crap parenting on so many levels.

This is the problem with massively overreacting to a situation, you stop the original person taking any responsibility because what you've done totally overshadows it.

Why is it young?

The N-Word is tied directly to hundreds of years of institutionalized oppression, violence, and dehumanization against Black people. It is widely considered the most taboo and severely offensive word in the English language.

The Word "Bitch"has been heavily reclaimed by many women to mean someone who is strong-willed, assertive, or independent. It is also frequently used casually among friends or in pop culture without malicious intent.

They are not compatible in any way shape or form.

It's clear it's from the parents since they didn't apologise or acknowledge she was offensive I'm anyway

Your original post that I responded to was saying that bitch isn't misogynistic because girls say it. I'm pointing out the faulty reasoning.

But sure, ignore all the women on here saying we would find it misogynistic to be called a stupid bitch by a man.

I feel sorry for both kids.

Crap parenting all around.

Both sets of parents.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

That's what I thought.
You're not alone.

This! What were the parents doing? If it was my daughter I’d have jumped in so the poor boy didn’t need to reply and felt the homophobia he’d just experienced was dealt with. I’d have been so ashamed. Think we can see where she gets it from.

The two words are in no way comparable. Just stop.

This needs to calm down before a sensible conversation happens. No one really comes out smelling of roses so apologies and things to learn from both sides

Your DS would never had needed to get to that point where he lost self controlling heard my 8yo talking to him like that.

I would have clearly and publicly told her that we don’t use that term and being homosexual was perfectly ok. I would have then apologised to your ds and asked her too.

Little kids can be brats and they can also say things they don’t mean.

A 13yo is still a child with raging hormones and won’t react in an adult manner either.

i think it’s great your ds feels comfortable being so open about his sexuality. Why should he hide who he is?

I disagree. Of course, the n word is much more serious and offensive than 'bitch', but it's an example of how slurs can be acceptable when said by the disadvantaged group but unacceptable from someone from outside.

"Stupid bitch' is much more offensive when said by a man than when said by a woman.