to think a male pill would be one of the best things that could happen to society?

I actually don't think it would be. It would help couples who have a healthy relationship. But 1. I think there's be even more rape. 2. One night stands would lie about it, use it as an excuse not to wear a condom and pass on STIs, be unreliable taking it as the consequences isn't theirs. 3. Lots and lots and lots of women absolutely could not and should not trust their male partners to care enough about her health to consistently take it. Christ women can't trust their partners to give them water when they're ill, spend time with their kids, not smash doors in. It would probably be used more for abuse than actual contraception.

I don’t think it would make even a small difference. Biology isn’t fair and women just need to get over that and accept if they don’t want pregnancy then ultimately the buck stops with them. It’s common for men to get a vasectomy when their family are done having children, but I don’t think any young women should rush to believe a man is on the pill.

Well yes, obviously, and I'm sure it happens. I still imagine it happening a great deal more, the other way round though.

This! The male pill would be great to protect the man against a pregnancy he didn't want, but the woman also needs to use her own form of reliable contraception to protect herself if she doesn't want to get pregnant.

Why would they bother? Pregnancy isn't their problem. If they can't be bothered to wear condoms they sure as hell aren't going to take a pill daily. Definitely in a dating/casual sex scenario...

I don't trust my DH to remember to put the bins out once a week. I'm buggered if I'm making him responsible for whether I fall pregnant or not...

Again, OP is about absent fathers....

First post nails it.

I didn't say men. I said men who don't take responsibility for their children i.e. the ones OP is talking about in her first post.

What about in a committed marriage? Not everyone is sleeping around with people they don’t know/trust.

Why do you think literally no men take responsibility? Plenty of men do, and would be capable of taking a pill. Nobody is saying all men should be taking a pill. But there are men out there that aren’t incompetent morons.

But on balance, if there were a way for men to have condom-free sex without potentially having to pay for a child for eighteen years afterwards, a lot of them would be downright religious in their use of it.

I can honestly say if I was out there dating my first thought would not be how can I make sex more pleasurable for a man, how can I do that without a condom!! You do know there’s other risks apart from pregnancy that come from unprotected sex. Apart from all that would you really put your trust in someone to of taken the pill? I wouldn’t, it’s my responsibility to look after my sexual health and mine to not get pregnant

Men who don't take resonsibililty for a living breathing child aren't going to take responsibility for the possibility of a child. Why do you think they would?

And what if the man has stuck his dick in someone with HIV or syphllyis several weeks before. Or do you mean using condoms as well as the pill.

I could forsee wives and partners having sex and believing they are trying, as a couple, to conceive, whilst their male partner quietly ensures they don't. Lots to think about there.

The pill was developed for men to take. After all the side effects were discovered, it was decided no man would take it, so it became a women's problem instead.

It’s not selfish to not permanently alter your body, your body isn’t anyone else’s property. Plus some men might not want to make a permanent choice, so the pill is an option

Not only would I not trust a man to take the pill, the pill would not protect me from STDs.

Also, how many women would end up in the ridiculous position of reminding their bloke to take his pill every day?

Well there is an incredibly reliable and simple procedure men can opt for if they definitely don't want any more children - a vasectomy.
But many are too bloody selfish to make that choice.

Well yes of course there’s loads of reasons why men couldn’t take it also, but having it as an option wouldn’t be a bad thing. There are threads on here every week from women who’ve had kids and don’t want to deal with hormonal contraception anymore, but not all men want a vasectomy, so the pill would give another option.

And presumably this would be the same for any man?

I just don’t see that a male contraceptive changes the position from where we are now. I’d support it, but given I’d be the one literally left holding the baby I’d
probably prefer to be the one in control of that rather than trusting someone else has done it right.

Until men who don't want to be fathers are actually forced to be fathers with all the emotional, physical, mental and financial loads that comes with it, I will no tbe recommending to any woman I know that she relies on the male pill.

I think the idea is brilliant and should be deveoped, but in the real world, I wouldn't trust a man. even my own DH - because ultimately, if it fails, it's not HIM that suffers, it's me.