to think a male pill would be one of the best things that could happen to society?

The reality is...reckless men will always be reckless. A male pill won't change that.
Just in the same way that the female pill doesn't stop reckless women.

Yes I don't know what women aren't getting or why they're making this about themselves. It always happens when the idea of a male pill is discussed. This is about men having more choice not women. We can still take our own. Imagine if we had a new contraception method and men were constantly putting their 2 cents in about how we wouldn't take it etc-there would be outrage!

Honestly men can't win, they get criticised for not having to take on any of the responsibility but any whiff of a male pill and it's "I wouldn't trust them"-just an excuse to man bash. In reality women are terrified there will be no more babies if a male pill ever gets invented I think.

They made their own pill. A red one and it's working better than anything so far.

Also, a male pill would see a rise in STD rates.

@IAmWhoIAmm
A man with no job pays no maintenance. Many find other ways to get away with it.

Won't some men just claim they're on the pill when they're not so as to dodge a condom then claim it must have failed if anyone gets pregnant? Much like some women do? You're either responsible or not I'm not sure a male pill makes much difference to that.

I don’t believe men would be willing to tolerate the side effects of a hormonal pill. The payoff for women is huge, but pregnancy, childbirth and rearing can just be a minor inconvenience to a man.

I think many people take the risk in the heat of the moment. Women, however, can get the morning after pill. I know I have.

There is a difference though, between not using a condom in the heat of the moment, but being proactive about taking a contraceptive pill every day. I think a lot of men would be able to manage the latter.

I've been on MN for 15 years (14 as other people 😎)

They can still take the pill. It’s extra protection not instead of 🤦‍♀️

And how many men do you know like that?

Hmm I don’t know. I think it would have an interesting affect on ‘accidental’ pregnancies… and cause quite the population drop.

Really? Would you trust a man who says 'Its OK,I'm on the pill'. Men are so driven by their need for sex that they'd lie about it without a second thought.

All of which can be diluted to £1/week if the feckless father goes on to have 10 more children.

Or 20

Or 30.

Really? Would you trust a man who says 'Its OK,I'm on the pill'. Men are so driven by their need for sex that they'd happily lie about it.

'It can't be mine, I'm on the Pill'

'You have to get rid of it, I was on the Pill'

'You don't have to worry about me, I'm clean and I'm on the Pill'

'Why do you want to make sex so crap for me? I'm on the Pill. It's all about you, isn't it?'

'She'll never know about her, there's not going to be any accidental babies because I'm on the Pill. Funny how it burns a bit when I go for a pee, must have been a bit more active when I saw Bunnie last time, oh, well'

'Of course I want a baby, we just have to keep on trying. I know you're anxious because you're 37, but it'll be fine'

'You don't have to worry or have a Mirena/depot/whatever, I'm on the Pill and would never lie about this to trap you in this abusive relationship with a baby'

I wouldn’t trust any man to take, or even remember to take a pill. And in the heat of the moment a man would probably take the risk.

The waiting list for vasectomies where I live is 18 months! So it is definitely something lots of men are taking up!

Yes but not for everyone, and also some men don’t want children now, but they might want them one day. It’s really not rocket science.

@ToKittyornottoKitty Because ultimately it's a better opinion than any pill if men don't want children.

Nobody is disputing that vasectomy is a good idea for many, so I’m not sure why you keep repeating it.

@ToKittyornottoKitty But I don't want another child. Neither does my husband. We could not take the risk of an unplanned pregnancy that occurs with a contraceptive pill.
I fell pregnant twice in my late 30s/early 40s with perfect use of the pill (but "fortunately" - for want of a better word - miscarried both times, although one of those times resulted in emergency surgery when one of my fallopian tubes ruptured). Consultant diagnosed hyperfertility.
Hence the vaesectomy.
It makes perfect sense for couples who have completed their family.

It would help. But, so would women taking the already existing pill

There’s no point us both repeating the same points. Some men can be trusted as much as women can with contraception. And a vasectomy isn’t right for everyone, so the option is a good once to have, it’s an option, not a sentence. You not trusting your own husband is your own issue. Many women set reminders, or inform their partner if they miss one, many men can do the same even if yours is hopeless. So for you this wouldn’t work and that’s fine, you do not represent every couple.

Not from child maintenance. 18 years of having to pay for a kid they don’t want.