Is this racism?

I notice you don’t refute my point.

I don’t watch GB News or read the Telegraph.

Given the increasing open racism towards people of Asian descent in the UK (especially Pakistani / Bangladeshi etc.) I completely get the “paranoia”. Is it really paranoia if everybody is out to get you? And if he spends anytime on social media / UK media pages I completely get his “paranoia”. The tone of comments is breathtakingly vicious in their hatred and these people live in and among us.

I am black and i wouldnt assume racism. I would have just thought the guy was a twat 🤷🏽‍♀️

There is really no way of you or anyone else knowing. They could just be selfish and rude people or it might have been racially motivated. Regardless, I’m sorry you had a bad experience and I’m sorry you felt scared. Hope the rest of the week is nicer.

It is not for a white person to tell a non white person what is and isn't racist.

So the police were right to believe Vickrum Digwa when he accused Henry Nowak of racism?

42% of people in Yardley are Muslim. With 80% vote turn out that means 33% of the vote share will be Muslim. That leaves the other 67% up for grabs by non Muslim people. Its hardly the fault of 'our system' or Muslim people if non Muslim people choose not to vote, is it?
There are only 3 constituencies in the UK where the Muslim population exceed 50%, so even if your worst fears are grounded, that's three seats of 650. Hardly a coup.
There are a further 11 seats where Islam is the majority stated religion. However Muslims are not a majority, so non Muslim people, if they bothered to vote, would have the largest influence.
Not that it should matter. British Muslims have as much right to excercise their right to vote as you do.
If Reform are not attractive to them, and they will go Green and encourage their local communities to do likewise to keep them out, they are in good company. I would too.

If it is, my inlaws are racist against every single race on the planet, including their own.

Perhaps try a different form of journalism, other than GB News or The Telegraph.

Where do you live? The old man said “I didn’t see her”, he really may not have seen you.

There are many possible reason for
this particular interchange. Racism could be one of them. His age could have been the reason, his manners could have been the reason or he could genuinely not have seen you.

i have seen this kind of post before MN, a
mixed race person or a person with mixed race children experiencing a level of racism that makes them feel fearful, intimidated and of the belief that England is overrun by Racists on every corner.

I am black, my DNephew and DGS or mixed, we all have our own experiences but this is not the perception that we, my black, white and mixed family have, all being born in England.

Racism exists everywhere but….come on, keep it real!

The most interesting thing about your post is that you popped into a Wetherspoon’s for a drink, whilst your DH had the kids. You may not have been left frightened and intimidated if you had gone into a Starbucks instead.

That doesn’t take into account the way our voting system works though.

For example in Jess Phillips’ constituency, approx 45% of the voters are Muslim. Given that they regularly achieve a turnout of up to 80% compared to approx 55% in the general population, that can have a significant impact on the result.

Replicate that in many constituencies around the country and you have some important voting power.

It would go some way to explaining Jesse Phillips watering down the rape gangs inquiry and Starmer attempting to use the police and ‘guidance’ to silence us.

Muslims are 6% of the electorate. They clearly have nowhere near the voting power of the non Muslim population.

It hardly needs 'admitting', it's entirely obvious.
If you are a working class white person with little money, you will be disadvantaged. However the reason you are disadvantaged is the working class and not wealthy parts of the description, not the white part.
Being white is not a disadvantage in our society. If it were it would be a pattern reflected throughout our society from top to bottom and white people would have less power than other ethnicities at every level.

Exactly.

A significant group of people in this country are legally allowed to carry knives when no one else can. This privilege has been abused and cost an innocent life. It has been demonstrated as an issue for public safety yet the government won’t even consider withdrawing that special privilege for fear of upsetting those people.

Another group of people are attempting to have blasphemy laws reintroduced in the UK. There is still a teacher from Batley in hiding for fear of his life after 5 years after showing a depiction of a religious figure. He has a price on his head and cannot return to his hometown with his family.

Now imagine if it had been a Sikh boy horribly murdered and bullied by the police or a Muslim teacher hounded out of his home and will be killed if he returns. No stone would be left unturned until everyone involved was locked up forever. I can guarantee that the reaction from the authorities would be amplified 1000 fold.

But we’re the racists. 🙄

You are arguing that certain white led organisations have shown bias towards non white demographics? If that is so, that means only that the non white demographic was advantaged, by gift of the white people with power, not that the non white demographic had usurped power.
Where white people head up institutions, they have the power and are using it as they see fit.
If you don't like the way they use it, and feel it disadvantages other white people, your argument is with them, the powerful white people in charge.
Just as with immigration, its white people who have decided the policies. 76% of the UK are white British, and the majority vote for political parties that have not taken a strong line on immigration.
I get that it's frustrating for people with strong anti immigration views, but its not the immigrants who have the power to set the policies and have rendered you powerless to stop it.
Its successive white British dominated governments, and the white British people who've voted for them.

Some people are self serving aholes.

Sometimes self serving aholes are white.
There’s probably a bit of overlap with racism and being a self serving ahole.

Sorry that happened to you

Because it is normalized it is inevitable more people are calling it out. What is sad about the post ,is not whether racism was involved,but that OP feared it might be. Says a lot about our society.

Why would it be about your ethnicity?
You went to a shitty Wetherspoons where the riff raff of society congregate for cheap booze and food so I assume they were just rude and thoughtless. Not sure colour has anything to do with it!

Absolutely. Other races and ethnic groups (black people, Jews, Muslims etc) can advocate for their own group and are listened to by those in power. Try doing that as a white person, even for white children, and you get called a racist or a Nazi. So much power 🙄

Nope. You still sound like you are making a negative generalisation about the occupants of an entire country.

I’m sure there’s a word for that.

Basically, it's not being white that makes you powerless, is not being rich.

Have you considered that, just possibly, it’s not being white that makes you powerful, it’s being rich?

But at least you are admitting that white people who are not rich do not have power. It’s a start.

So the thousands of girls racially abused while they were being raped were actually in luxury and not experiencing racism?

And the white kids who can’t get internships or jobs because of the colour of their skin are just a figment of the courts imagination? (Several cases have been won already, but it’s still happening).

The first racist comments I ever heard were from the Pakistani boys at university regaling us with the nasty racist terms they had for white girls.

But this just isn’t true. White children being abused by Pakistani grooming gangs experience racism. It’s all there in the reports. You can’t deny it (unless you cleverly redefine racism to exclude the possibility of racism against white people). This has happened on a massive scale. Why doesn’t it get considered in assessing who faces racism.

White people are less likely to go to grammar school or university and have a shorter life expectancy than non-white people. Where’s all this “privilege” we hear so much about?

So why are the Pakistani rape gangs not being stopped, why is it impossible to deport foreign criminals and why are the government having their power to bully and silence us from criticising Islam?

Those people aren’t rich. They have something far more important to Starmer and the Labour Party. They have very motivated voting groups. There is frequently an 80% turnout of Muslim voters at elections and in a number of areas, the local imams will decide where the votes go. Labour lost a lot of those votes to the Greens and they want to regain them. That’s the power.