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Is this racism?

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cooooola · 07/07/2026 13:13

Basically I was at the pub in the pub and nobody was behind the bar.

I was first in line.

An elderly couple come and and then another man who slams his glass down.

When the bar lady asks "who is first"? I replied me.

The elderly couple say "we have been waiting ages".

And the man next says "I didn't see her".

I felt this was due to me being mixed race.
I felt quite intimidated.

I only popped in for a drink whilst OH has the kids.

I feel any shaken up as the only ethnic person in the place.
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MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 13:23

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 13:14

Of course!

You deal in sound bites and find it difficult to deal with longer pieces, especially if they offer an opposing view. Lots of people struggle with this.

DEI course providers recognise this and that is why they usually deliver their material in sound bites. If you're used to this-and I think you may be-then it will be difficult to read joined up sentences.

I understand. Please don't worry. It's fine.

One little point: try not to insult those who disagree with you. You look faintly silly when you do this and I'm sure that's not the image that you want to project.

From what I see from your other posts, I would focus on your own life and the badly needed improvement.

Your reply was that of a teenager and wasn't delivered in the way you think it landed.

Go for it though... I can sense your red mist (which was guised as an attempt an insults) so have the last word if it soothes your anger.

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 13:14

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 13:08

I wouldn't put your witterings-on and 'thoughtful' together. It badly misaligns.

All I, and others saw was an eye sore of ramblings, so again, I bored out.

Of course!

You deal in sound bites and find it difficult to deal with longer pieces, especially if they offer an opposing view. Lots of people struggle with this.

DEI course providers recognise this and that is why they usually deliver their material in sound bites. If you're used to this-and I think you may be-then it will be difficult to read joined up sentences.

I understand. Please don't worry. It's fine.

One little point: try not to insult those who disagree with you. You look faintly silly when you do this and I'm sure that's not the image that you want to project.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 13:08

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 13:00

Yes. Don't feel bad about not being able to follow a thoughtful, fairly long post.

Not everybody has this skill and mistake not understanding for being bored. Thousands of children experience this every day up and down the land.

I am sure you are good at lots of other things...repeating soundbites, holding placards, knitting tea cosies and, whatever it is, you must take pride in that.

I wouldn't put your witterings-on and 'thoughtful' together. It badly misaligns.

All I, and others saw was an eye sore of ramblings, so again, I bored out.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 13:05

Dideon · 08/07/2026 12:42

You seem like you have been on to many courses.

To or too?

Nah, I am in a decent job, whereby training is given to all employees on DEI. Not that we needed it. However, certain demographics could badly do with it.

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 13:00

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:46

I bored out after your first sentence.

Yes. Don't feel bad about not being able to follow a thoughtful, fairly long post.

Not everybody has this skill and mistake not understanding for being bored. Thousands of children experience this every day up and down the land.

I am sure you are good at lots of other things...repeating soundbites, holding placards, knitting tea cosies and, whatever it is, you must take pride in that.

Dideon · 08/07/2026 12:42

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 10:39

I am very clear.

It is not for you or I to decide the OP's experience of racism.

You seem uneducated in diversity and inclusion?

You seem like you have been on to many courses.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 12:21

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Perhaps in The Daily Mail it has. Then again, I am educated so it tends not to pop up in algorithms for me that frequently.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 12:18

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 12:02

You can always tell someone has lost the argument when they resort to insults.
Move along now.
(ps.. I don't even know what that is.. seems more up your street)

You need to develop a thicker skin if you thought that was an insult.

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 12:02

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You can always tell someone has lost the argument when they resort to insults.
Move along now.
(ps.. I don't even know what that is.. seems more up your street)

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 12:01

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MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:59

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Ah so you are unbothered about being a racist?

I would say people love being around you, with the exception probably of your equally EQ challenged family perhaps.

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 11:56

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MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:55

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 11:54

Yeah. You're the problem if you cant even be bothered to consider there's another POV.

The OP's point of view is what is relevant.

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 11:54

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:46

I bored out after your first sentence.

Yeah. You're the problem if you cant even be bothered to consider there's another POV.

Purplecatshopaholic · 08/07/2026 11:53

I was believing you until you said you asked them to check cctv. Seriously? Bonkers. If this happened it was unlikely to be racism, it happens all the time in pubs up and down the country, although of course it could have been, we weren’t there. However, it was considerably more likely to be ignorance or stupidity, or perhaps they didn’t see you, etc.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:46

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 11:05

Don't be silly, @MissBeans83

I am sure that almost everyone on this board agrees that racism is a bad thing.

However, when the definition of racism expands to contain nonsense like the OP's post then that is a bad thing.

It is a bad thing because it dilutes the definition of racism. People find themselves accused of it for absolute nonsense or they read that a cry of false racism can lead to a young white man dying in the street.

When this happens they conclude that the definition of racism has become so wide that everyone will be accused of it at some point or other, so it becomes no big deal. They reasonably say, "So what!"

That will eventually lead to people saying "So what!" when the racism is real and serious.

That is why calling every woman and her dog racist is a bad thing.

You are part of that problem.

The more you over react with cries of Nazis and the ilk-to this non incident of the OP-the less seriously you will be taken.

So, it has started to eat its own tail.

That may lead to the definition being narrowed and made reasonable once again and that is why looking for racism everywhere may be a good thing ,as it will reign it in as people care less and less for being called racist for things like general rudeness or reading a copy of Enid Blyton's Noddy.

So, calm down, get with the programme.

You are part of the problem that will eventually lead to a growing number of people no longer caring about being racist whether they are or not.

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I bored out after your first sentence.

Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 11:46

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Paganpentacle · 08/07/2026 11:45

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 10:39

I am very clear.

It is not for you or I to decide the OP's experience of racism.

You seem uneducated in diversity and inclusion?

Correction... OP's PERCEIVED experience of racism.

If its not intended and merely misconstrued she can cry racist all she likes, but it would be incorrect.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:45

TryNotToLaugh · 08/07/2026 11:08

Is it racist if any other group of people want to remain the majority in their country? No. It’s completely normal human nature. It’s only racism if it’s white people. As I said above, any other group can advocate for their groups interest, but if white people do so, we get called racist.

Because it is racist.

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:45

ColdAsAWitches · 08/07/2026 10:53

It's racist because you're making out that a white minority is a bad thing.

Can you see that no matter what language we try to enlighten her in, she still doesn't get it?

I fear we have lost TryNotToLaugh

MissBeans83 · 08/07/2026 11:41

TryNotToLaugh · 08/07/2026 10:44

You seem to be unable to discuss without personal insults and incorrect assumptions.

It is not for you or I to decide the OP's experience of racism.

Therefore

It was not for the police to decide Vickrum Digwa’s experience of racism. They were correct to believe him unquestioningly.

Except they did decide. Racism and hatred is a crime, therefore they acted accordingly at the time.

What part of that do you struggle with?

Your attempts at defending racism get progressively worse.

TryNotToLaugh · 08/07/2026 11:08

ColdAsAWitches · 08/07/2026 10:53

It's racist because you're making out that a white minority is a bad thing.

Is it racist if any other group of people want to remain the majority in their country? No. It’s completely normal human nature. It’s only racism if it’s white people. As I said above, any other group can advocate for their groups interest, but if white people do so, we get called racist.

HowManyHints · 08/07/2026 11:05

Don't be silly, @MissBeans83

I am sure that almost everyone on this board agrees that racism is a bad thing.

However, when the definition of racism expands to contain nonsense like the OP's post then that is a bad thing.

It is a bad thing because it dilutes the definition of racism. People find themselves accused of it for absolute nonsense or they read that a cry of false racism can lead to a young white man dying in the street.

When this happens they conclude that the definition of racism has become so wide that everyone will be accused of it at some point or other, so it becomes no big deal. They reasonably say, "So what!"

That will eventually lead to people saying "So what!" when the racism is real and serious.

That is why calling every woman and her dog racist is a bad thing.

You are part of that problem.

The more you over react with cries of Nazis and the ilk-to this non incident of the OP-the less seriously you will be taken.

So, it has started to eat its own tail.

That may lead to the definition being narrowed and made reasonable once again and that is why looking for racism everywhere may be a good thing ,as it will reign it in as people care less and less for being called racist for things like general rudeness or reading a copy of Enid Blyton's Noddy.

So, calm down, get with the programme.

You are part of the problem that will eventually lead to a growing number of people no longer caring about being racist whether they are or not.

Shoopshawady · 08/07/2026 11:05

cooooola · 07/07/2026 23:03

@Shoopshawady The Wetherspoons where I live (25 minutes away) is really nicely decorated, the food is nice and the staff are really friendly. It is always full.

However it did only open last year.

The one I visited today was awful and half empty, and just looked like it needed a good deep clean.

The one by me is the biggest in Europe and it’s lovely if you sit outside just not inside!