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cooooola · 2026-07-07T12:13:55+00:00

Basically I was at the pub in the pub and nobody was behind the bar. I was first in line. An elderly couple come and and then another man who slams his glass down. When the bar lady asks "who is first"? I replied me. The elderly couple say "we have been waiting ages". And the man next says "I didn't see her". I felt this was due to me being mixed race. I felt quite intimidated. I only popped in for a drink whilst OH has the kids. I feel any shaken up as the only ethnic person in the place. AIBU

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cooooola · 09/07/2026 11:02

MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 10:56

I wouldn't be waiting around on their "thoughts".

If that couple had called you an obvious racist name, you would still get responses on here defending it, by those whose EQs remains stunted.

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Yes you're probably right there! X

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cooooola · 09/07/2026 11:02

To the posters who have not bothered to read the thread properly.

The issue isn't with the bartender!

Its with the couple who arrived after me and a guy who slammed down his drink aggressively next to me.

The older couple claimed to of been waiting before me despite seeing me and talking to me.

The other guy lied and backed them up.

I felt quite intimidated .

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MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 10:56

cooooola · 09/07/2026 10:03

@CornishDaughteroftheDawn
So basically what your saying is it's one rule for white people and another for people of an ethnic background?

Zara Aleena was murdered by a white man (her killer was also charged with attempted rape).

Your thoughts on that?

In the last few years that has been quite a few cases of Asian women being raped by white man specifically because of their race.

I wouldn't be waiting around on their "thoughts".

If that couple had called you an obvious racist name, you would still get responses on here defending it, by those whose EQs remains stunted.

italianlondongirl · 09/07/2026 10:24

I’m in London so I might have a different experience, but surely most parts of the UK are relatively diverse and so it would be very odd for a barman not to serve someone who was black due to racism? This isn’t the USA circa 1950!!

I don’t have a “bar presence” and am always served ages after other people, but I assume that’s because they are known regulars/taller than me etc.

The OP is creating division by seeing racism in every annoying situation. People can be selfish/rude/unsympathetic and she like all of us will experience this on a regular basis. I really despair for the future if this is the default position.

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cooooola · 09/07/2026 10:03

@CornishDaughteroftheDawn
So basically what your saying is it's one rule for white people and another for people of an ethnic background?

Zara Aleena was murdered by a white man (her killer was also charged with attempted rape).

Your thoughts on that?

In the last few years that has been quite a few cases of Asian women being raped by white man specifically because of their race.

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TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 10:00

MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 09:16

There were corkers alright.

Did you read the corker of the thread, i.e. "white people are becoming a minority"

Amusing watching them all lose their shit with rage though when they are called out on it.

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Amusing watching them all lose their shit with rage though when they are called out on it.

Au contraire, pp are arguing cogently and calmly. I see no rage or losing of shit. More incorrect interpretation from you. Projection?

Did you read the corker of the thread, i.e. "white people are becoming a minority"

Are you back to denying this fact? I thought we were up to “It’s happening but so what?” (Still expecting “It’s happening and it’s a good thing” but luckily no-one on this thread has moved on to this stage yet).

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 09/07/2026 09:44

cooooola · 08/07/2026 23:21

I wasn't really expecting such a huge response.

But from my perspective the media has played a significant hand in causing such a divide and stirring up racial hatred.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head for example, or the idiot who drove into people at the Liverpool parade, how come they were not branded terrorists?
Funnily enough Tommy Morrison kept quiet about.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

I stand by the incident in the pub was racism and some random bloke pipped up when it was nothing to do with him. He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

Since the worst terrorist attack the world has seen where 19 Islamic terrorists murdered 2977 people, 94% of all terrorist murders in the UK have been by Islamists.

That is why the majority of headlines relating to terror attacks mention Islamists. Paul Doyle injuring people when driving his car into a crowd did not fit the criteria for a terrorist attack and nor did Timir Ahmed Mohamed who has recently been charged with attempted murder x5 after driving his car at a bus stop queue and then running off in Ealing. The girl prosecuted for attempted murder was also found by the judge not to be a terrorist.

There is a specific definition for a terrorist motivated attack and they didn’t fit. Just like the other attempted beheadings, some on military personnel and the rampage through train carriage by a man stabbing people.

There is now a police investigation into the reasons why police had refused to investigate the violent attack he committed prior to his train rampage where he slashed a man’s face outside a social club. 5 witnesses and cctv were ignored and the officers lied about it. It is possible that like Valdo Calocane, the authorities were worried about apprehending him because he was black.

As for ‘watered down response when white people do it’ you may have missed the horrified speeches and even attempt to prejudice a fair trial by the Prime Minister when the man in Scotland attacked 5 people some of whom were Muslim?

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?

The key difference here is that white grooming gangs are not being enabled and shielded by those in power for the sake of ‘community cohesion’. Police do not deliver rape victims back to the white grooming gangs or refuse witness protection when women like Fiona Goddard are being threatened and intimidated and hunted down because she is a victim of a Pakistani grooming gangs. There is a thread about her on the feminist board with more detail of the horrific way she is being treated. Not a peep from the government.

With respect, PPs on here making bold declarations like ‘the UK is racist country’ (quite a racist claim in itself ironically) and confirming that you definitely experienced racism in the pub with zero evidence of racism are not doing you any favours.

MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 09:16

MissHollyGolightly · 09/07/2026 09:00

I read the OP as having very likely experienced racism in that moment. It didn’t seem up for question who was there first, they were messing with her. The privilege permeating so many of the replies here is astonishing.

There were corkers alright.

Did you read the corker of the thread, i.e. "white people are becoming a minority"

Amusing watching them all lose their shit with rage though when they are called out on it.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/07/2026 09:04

MissHollyGolightly · 09/07/2026 09:00

I read the OP as having very likely experienced racism in that moment. It didn’t seem up for question who was there first, they were messing with her. The privilege permeating so many of the replies here is astonishing.

None of us were there. She also asked for opinions and we have been told white people cannot possibly comment on racism. The thread that keeps on giving.

MissHollyGolightly · 09/07/2026 09:00

I read the OP as having very likely experienced racism in that moment. It didn’t seem up for question who was there first, they were messing with her. The privilege permeating so many of the replies here is astonishing.

Papster · 09/07/2026 08:55

cooooola · 07/07/2026 13:45

Drink addiction?

Was a Pepsi lol I don't even drink.

I was intimidated by the man next to me who had slammed his glass down next to me and butted in.

The place was awful and hardly any staff.

Elderly is a wrong word, they were more early 60s.

The man was swearing before hand to me about the lack of staff and could see I was first.

So the rude racist spoke to you too?
He's ignorant, aggressive, and probably pissed.
Your Pantone reference is irrelevant.
Better luck next time

ButtercupYellow26 · 09/07/2026 08:40

You are the problem.
You are paranoid and looking for racism in even the most common situations .
You sound very immature.
GROW UP.

TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 08:38

Alina Burns - no mention of terrorism 🙄

LuckyHazelFox · 09/07/2026 08:33

TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 08:29

I think she’s referring to Alina Burns, according to the headlines - neo-nazi, far-right extremist, terrorism-motivated attack, nazi obsessed etc etc etc. But no mention of terrorism in the headlines of course because she is white #sarcasm

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That explains the thread about Alicia Burns, which asked why there was no outcry there. It's very familiar to what the OP is saying here 🤔 what a coincidence.

TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 08:29

Saeris · 09/07/2026 08:22

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head

Who?

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I think she’s referring to Alina Burns, according to the headlines - neo-nazi, far-right extremist, terrorism-motivated attack, nazi obsessed etc etc etc. But no mention of terrorism in the headlines of course because she is white #sarcasm

LuckyHazelFox · 09/07/2026 08:27

cooooola · 08/07/2026 23:21

I wasn't really expecting such a huge response.

But from my perspective the media has played a significant hand in causing such a divide and stirring up racial hatred.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head for example, or the idiot who drove into people at the Liverpool parade, how come they were not branded terrorists?
Funnily enough Tommy Morrison kept quiet about.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

I stand by the incident in the pub was racism and some random bloke pipped up when it was nothing to do with him. He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

the crazy girl with the shaved head who looks like a bloke

Seems it's the OP and her entourage who are keen to use discriminatory terms - on a thread about racism.

Saeris · 09/07/2026 08:22

cooooola · 08/07/2026 23:21

I wasn't really expecting such a huge response.

But from my perspective the media has played a significant hand in causing such a divide and stirring up racial hatred.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head for example, or the idiot who drove into people at the Liverpool parade, how come they were not branded terrorists?
Funnily enough Tommy Morrison kept quiet about.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

I stand by the incident in the pub was racism and some random bloke pipped up when it was nothing to do with him. He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head

Who?

MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 08:06

cooooola · 08/07/2026 23:21

I wasn't really expecting such a huge response.

But from my perspective the media has played a significant hand in causing such a divide and stirring up racial hatred.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head for example, or the idiot who drove into people at the Liverpool parade, how come they were not branded terrorists?
Funnily enough Tommy Morrison kept quiet about.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

I stand by the incident in the pub was racism and some random bloke pipped up when it was nothing to do with him. He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

I also meant to say, I have no doubt you accurately picked up on their racism.

A lot of these people do it in an insideous way, where they don't give you anything specific to quote you on.

Don't let it or them define who you are as a whole.

LuckyHazelFox · 09/07/2026 07:39

MissBeans83 · 09/07/2026 06:13

Why bother trying to justify and get answers from a collective group of racists on here? You won't.

You have seen the responses. From whataboutery, to rage, to passive aggressive responses.

Use your circle and your people who aren't racist and who will validate your experience in real life. Don't seek it here.

The vast majority of people have a brain and know what covert and overt racism is.

Unfortunately, you have attracted the ones on here who of of an undesireable demographic.

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Undesirable demographic - you wouldn't be stereotyping would you? I hope you didn't pay for those diversity courses because the material must have skipped the part on prejudice. You've concluded the OP was the subject of racism without even being present. I hope you're never called up for jury service because I'm not seeing much (overt or covert) objectivity.

TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 07:11

He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

I rest my case m’lud

TryNotToLaugh · 09/07/2026 07:06

cooooola · 08/07/2026 23:21

I wasn't really expecting such a huge response.

But from my perspective the media has played a significant hand in causing such a divide and stirring up racial hatred.

Since 9/11 whenever there is a terrorist attack the headline will always be "Muslim extremist" but when a white person commits the same it will always be watered and played down and never branded a terrorist.

That crazy girl who looks like a bloke with the shaven head for example, or the idiot who drove into people at the Liverpool parade, how come they were not branded terrorists?
Funnily enough Tommy Morrison kept quiet about.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

I stand by the incident in the pub was racism and some random bloke pipped up when it was nothing to do with him. He also slammed the glass down next to me quite aggressively.

And all this talk of Pakistani grooming gangs, but what about the white men who do the same?
Why no outcry there?

There are no gangs of white men targeting black or brown children. But you know this.

NoisyHiker · 09/07/2026 06:25

Saeris · 08/07/2026 18:12

woah there trigger - I've not read all the posts to this point.

Me and the majority of white people in the UK. Not wanting to become a minority in our country. So extreme!

You don't speak for me. I don't a shit what colour skin is in the majority / minority here in the UK - If we are here legally then we have as much right to be here as anyone else.

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If you don't care what skin colour is in the majority in the UK, does that not caring stretch to other countries?

So you wouldn't care if places like Nigeria, Japan or Pakistan became majority white countries? As long as the white people were there legally, even if the native populations did not want that?

You don't think it would have any negative effect on their culture or society?