Is this racism?

What about the audacity of accusing people ( including the old couple in the pub) of being racist when, you know, maybe they actually weren’t?

@MNHQ are you moderating the racist posts too? Or is it just the posts from those of us calling it out that gets deleted?

This is disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself. Don't fool yourself that these people you think are your homies on this thread would rather not have you or your parents here either.

I have never come across anyone who has, no. However, in a white supremacy society a victim pf colour has to be the PERFECT victim, and even then will get ripped to shreds.

It's whataboutary, Its racist.

Or maybe what the OP experienced is, you know, what she SHE felt it was. This endless whataboutery is gaslighting in its finest form. And its shit. Really really shit.

Funny. I pray she is.

@MissBeans83 posts are some of the very few posts that don't make me cringe tbh. What is cringeworthy is people telling the OP that she isn't experiencing what she is experiencing.

Yawn. Here we go. Who cares about what you can 'reconcile'. That sounds like a you problem.

The OP had an experience that made her feel intimidated. Now a long line of (white) people are telling her that what she is experiencing, isn't in fact what she is experiencing. The audacity.

I take it you are white?

🙄

Old people wanted skip the queue. That’s it. Nothing to see here just move on and accept people skip queues. Not everything is racially motivated

@MissBeans83 are you able to at least make an attempt to defend your position without being so nasty and spiteful? Everything you have posted on this thread has made me cringe. I am trying so hard to understand your position and where you are coming from but every time you talk about dumbing down or accuse other posters of being stupid for not agreeing with you, you lose credibility.

I mean, maybe you don’t mind that. Perhaps you are trying to be inflammatory. But I cannot reconcile the version of you that proclaims to understand all about DEI (one of the basic tenets of which is to treat all people respectfully) with the version of you that is being so nasty and disrespectful to everyone else.

So for us to answer OPs query about whether we thought an action was racist or not is in itself racist?

Even though OP asked the question? Was she inducing us to be racist (by your example) in that case?

Racists tend to push back and refute, because facing reality is something that they lack emotional resiliance in.

*resilience

So the very act of asserting that one is not a racist is actually racist? Was Matthew Hopkins an ancestor of yours by any chance?

Your ‘definition’ needs work by the way. Can I suggest that before you smear PPs, myself and the rest of the country as ‘racist’ you achieve some greater clarity on what you mean?

Here’s the OED version to help you. Can you specify how I, PPs and the rest of the country fit that?

The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. It encompasses the belief that members of different races possess specific characteristics, abilities, or qualities that distinguish them as either inferior or superior to one another.

The future? No that isn't what you said. You never said the future. Amusing watching you try to claw your way out of it when statistics are presented to you and you can't argue

Tip for you: Google comes in handy first in advance of racist, self proclaimed "facts".

Her lived experience doesn’t mean she’s always right or that she can’t misinterpret the intentions of others.

Ah okay, you’ve sunk to the point of denying there’s such a thing as “the future” and that that’s what we’re discussing.

There’s really no point trying to talk to someone who thinks these sorts of tactics are anything but silly.

Big words there.

Believe me you are the one who is presenting as someone who is lacking intelligence. Your condescending stance is a distraction from your inability to comprehend the nuances that should inform any discussion around racism.

I don’t need to answer you to validate any confusion you may have

I’m not confused. I’m pointing out the logical failings of your position.

@MissBeans83 soyou’re now denying that white people are becoming the minority in the UK and telling us that it’s racist to ever disagree with a poc claiming a racist incident, but declining to clarify whether you believe poc ever exaggerate, misconstrue, misinterpret or lie about racism.

It’s not terribly convincing.

I can't comment on the racism as it is really how you feel. However from my perspective [lone white female going to the bar] it seems more like entitled ageism or misogyny.

I don't need to answer you to validate any confusion you may have.

You demonstrated who you are and your fact-aversion statements such as white people becoming the minority, only served to make you out to lack critical thinking skills.