Is this racism?

I’m white and it happens to me all the time. I honestly don’t think it’s anything to do with your race

Me too. Being a woman and quite short, bar staff often don't notice me next to the pushy customers.

Why did you feel intimidated? Annoyed or furious I can understand, but what did you think an elderly couple was going to do to you in a pub in front of the bartender? It sounds like the man eventually backed down, admitting that he had failed to notice someone else in the queue in front of him.

Also, please consider boycotting Wetherspoons. The damage intentionally and carelessly inflicted by Tim Martin in the run-up to the Brexit vote is still doing significant damage ten years later.

I would have been annoyed not intimidated, what order did you get served in? You also want to be front and centre not at one end of the bar looking inconspicuous. It shouldn't be but often it's the most forceful person who gets served first, although I've also seen the ridiculous after you, no after you, no I insist.

I was once at a very posh do with a free bar and was practically trampled over by one very elegant old lady fighting her way to the front of the queue.

Oh this is perfect. 👌

I guess you are trying to be sarcastic/funny, but you know that Wetherspoons (other pubs are available) sell soft drinks/tea/coffee etc. How do you know what OP was going to order?

Is this the first time you’ve ever been to any sort of bar?

All pubs and bars - from country Inns to awful dives to clubs to theatre bars and everything in between - when even slightly busy are like this. There is no queue system at a bar, you just have to hope that that staff are clocking who arrived at the bar first, and are able to manage it, and usually you need to speak up. Sadly, often the loudest voice wins. It’s how it works, there is rarely any malice behind it, rarely sexist or racist. Selfish, absolutely. Difficult, yup. Do the locals and the loud inconsiderate ones often win through? Sadly. But nothing more. It’s just how it goes.

Quite why trying to order a drink with two others also trying to has left you shaken up seems odd. Try buying a drink at a busy bar or club or gig or something. That takes forever!

I wouldn't say so. I would say it's everyone wanting to be first and all being disgruntled that there was nobody to serve them.

Where was the racism?

A woman alone is often overlooked, for some reason they expect the drink buyers to be men. I have had to be very insistent to get noticed that it's my turn. You also have to be looking an the bar person if you are not paying attention, look away at the vital moment they go to whoever engages.

What really needs to be addressed here is your drink addiction.

In the line at the drug store?

It’s a well known story:

https://placesjournal.org/article/section-v-from-citizen-an-american-lyric/?cn-reloaded=1

I'm not sure you could say it's racism unless it's something you have experienced there before. Some people are just entitled and don't think they have to abide by the unwritten rules of a pub "queue" (especially some of the regulars in a Wetherspoons).

I can’t see from what you’ve said that it’s racist, albeit they were very rude.

Are you saying that they thought they should go first because they were white? Couldn’t you just as easily say “well I think it was sexist” because the others were either a man or included a man?

I mean, maybe it was racist but I’m not sure how you’d know that from what you’ve said and observed.

Don't think it was mate.

Why do you think it's because you were mixed race? (I'm mixed race too and I wouldn't have made this assumption). If he'd said 'Bloody immigrants, coming over and stealing our place in the queue" then YANBU.

Happens to all of us. It isn't racism.

Racism is the racists problem not yours. They tend to be sad, unhappy people full of hate and project negativity. I feel sorry for them, it must be a boring existence. It’s not your problem - if you make it so you will be looking for it everywhere and making it your focus. Yes there are racists in the world but their day and lives and full of moaning and hate - I doubt yours is. I say this as a proud mother of mixed race adults - none of my family absorb racism or allow us to stew on whether people are or aren’t as they aren’t ever people who have well informed or worth talking to anyway

I didn’t get served first in the boots queue even though I was there first. It wasn’t a proper queue in a line due to people being unable to queue sometimes, losing their orderly mindset, if they ever had one.
why wasnt I served first? Was the bloke at the till sexist? Or agist? Or racist? Or mentally ill? Or unfocused? Or am I wearing an invisibility cloak? Help me!
it’s a serious issue. Please clarify my grievance, I neeeeed to feel aggrieved.

There could have been racism OP, there is a lot of it about. And/or it could have been everyone being quite selfish. Unpleasant for you either way.

0 / 10 for rage bait skills

They just sound dosy, or possibly drunk. Don't see where ethicity comes into it, unless you mean they literally don't see race.

SO no one said anything or gave any indication that they cared about your race, but they were a bit rude, and you think that might be related to your race. Well, you might be right, but equally, people are rude to me sometimes, and I am white. Often people are rude because they are, y'know, just rude wankers. Don't take it personally, it's a them problem.

Bars are just a free for all and it’s a dog eat dog environment. I’d just work on your bar presence.

I’m white and it happens to me all the time. I honestly don’t think it’s anything to do with your race.

No. It's someone wanting served first.