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To call it a day with DP as his "ex" wife books yet ANOTHER holiday on one of her custody weekends and he just sucks it up.

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mondaycando1 · 06/07/2026 20:23

They have 50/50 custody, she has half the year to book holidays and yet in the 3 years we've been together, she must have booked half a dozen holidays that mean he's needed to have the kids on her time. He NEVER says no for fear of upsetting her.

Their divorce has dragged on for most of those 3 years (they've been separated 6+ years, she had an affair, still with the bloke as far as he knows) as he deferred to most of her demands and didn't fight them for fear of upsetting her.

He was really ill last month which meant we had to cancel the long awaited 5 day break we had booked (I also have 50/50 custody, same pattern, so 5 days is the most we can get away together, other stuff often gets in the way so this only happens a couple of times a year).

Just this morning, to celebrate him finally being able to push the button on the divorce final order today, we fathom out another weekend in 3 months time we can get away together. What happens this afternoon- she tells him she's booked a holiday that very same weekend we had free and could he have the DC? I totally swear she's done it out if spite because of the final order. Of course, so he doesn't upset her, he's agreed.

Fuming here.

OP posts:
Honeyhonayboo · 07/07/2026 09:14

Spineless would be prioritising his new girlfriend’s desire for a child free relationship at the expense of his children.

Sweetsalad · 07/07/2026 09:11

Ibrox · 07/07/2026 09:06

I'm a guy.

And, as a guy, you think men should prioritise their girlfriend over their children?

Sweetsalad · 07/07/2026 09:08

HandPulledNoodles · 07/07/2026 08:54

Why are you mad at the ex? she owes you nothing. Direct your anger at your spineless DH.

Edited

He's not spineless. He's the only one putting the children first. He's the only grown up in this scenario

Ibrox · 07/07/2026 09:06

UniquePinkSwan · 07/07/2026 06:57

Spineless oaf for prioritising his kids? Mumsnet at its man hating finest…

I'm a guy.

Lexibletheflexible · 07/07/2026 09:05

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/07/2026 09:03

It's one of the joys of Mumsnet. A separated father who has less than 50:50 is lazy, feckless and taking the piss. A separated father who pushes for 50:50 is only doing it to get out of paying maintenance. And a separated father, like this one, who takes every opportunity to see his children more than 50:50 is weak and spineless.

It sounds like unless the man appeases the woman in closest proximity to the "audience", the "audience" cast him as a villain.

HoppingPavlova · 07/07/2026 09:05

Are you sure it’s ’not to upset her’ and actually ‘because I want extra time with my kids and don’t want them to be shipped off to relatives’

This. Seems like a great dad wanting to have his kids as much as possible. The horror!

I don’t understand the ‘need’ to have child free time. As a parent, you have kids, there is no ‘child free’ time. We didn’t have ANY child free time until ours were adults (as even as older teens and able to stay home themselves if we went away for a night, invariably someone needed running around to a sport, hobby, job etc). Such is life as a parent, why you think anything other than that is mind boggling. He seems to be a responsible dad who understands his obligations to his kids versus a spineless man caving to an ex-wife.

Honeyhonayboo · 07/07/2026 09:05

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/07/2026 09:03

It's one of the joys of Mumsnet. A separated father who has less than 50:50 is lazy, feckless and taking the piss. A separated father who pushes for 50:50 is only doing it to get out of paying maintenance. And a separated father, like this one, who takes every opportunity to see his children more than 50:50 is weak and spineless.

How dare he prioritise his own children over a relatively new girlfriend! What a spineless weak man …

Its actually so gross.

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 07/07/2026 09:03

bumblingbovine49 · 07/07/2026 08:03

If you want to see it as ' he has no spine' because it makes it easier for you, go ahead but really he is just putting his children first by not arguing with his ex about having his own childen to stay and that is a valid choice

That is not him being 'spineless ' It is him chosing his childen over his partner. Of course she ( or you) are perfectly entitled to not to want a relationship like that but making it so he is in the wrong is pretty spineless in itself. It is getting angry at being hurt and being put second and looking for someone to blame for that. Then deciding that the blame lies with the person who is actually doing the right thing for the most vulnerable members of his.damily.

It's one of the joys of Mumsnet. A separated father who has less than 50:50 is lazy, feckless and taking the piss. A separated father who pushes for 50:50 is only doing it to get out of paying maintenance. And a separated father, like this one, who takes every opportunity to see his children more than 50:50 is weak and spineless.

Honeyhonayboo · 07/07/2026 09:00

ClaudiaCasswell · 07/07/2026 08:25

You hardly know his kids? Not suggesting you become a ‘blended family’ (shudder) but surely if you’re in a relationship with this guy you’d at least make an effort in getting to know them.

I think the whole reason they are together is they are both child free at the same time. OP’s boyfriend having his children an extra handful of weekends, over a 3 year period, is spoiling that for her.

RafaistheKingofClay · 07/07/2026 09:00

mondaycando1 · 06/07/2026 20:59

Thanks for the different opinions folks!

I totally get the wanting more time with your kids, lord knows the 50/50 I have hurts but my ex won't swap point blank so we're stuck to the weekends we have, I don't doubt he's a good father though hardly know his kids, the whole "blended" family thing isn't on the agenda at all, certainly not with 4 teens.

Yes bottom line is he's weak I guess.

I’m not sure that is the bottom line. It doesn’t sound like he maybe can’t win here. Or nobody except his kids can in this relationship. I wonder whether it’s your ex-lack of flexibility that actually causes more issues.

I don’t think going away for a 7-10 day holiday once or twice a year is unreasonable. If you are on a 50/50 part week custody schedule that is going to mean finding childcare.
I don’t think it is unreasonable to offer the other parent first refusal. And if you want to spend more time with your kids than the custody schedule allows it seems reasonable to accept and not ask to swap those days (assuming you are ok with any maintenance issues).
it might be unreasonable for him to say yes if you have definite other plans together although I think a lot of MN would argue that he should be putting the kids before your relationship.
it’s definitely unreasonable if she would refuse every time he asked (if he ever does) or causes issues if he were to say no but I might have missed that being the case if you said it.

if she was happy to take them and your ex wanted to spend more time with his kids and would take them there wouldn’t be an issue because you would likely to be able to find 5 days more often. And yet you started a thread about her not him.

NorthernSouthern · 07/07/2026 08:59

To add to my previous post, it sounds like he has a flexible pattern with his ex (assuming she will take DC on his time) and you have a strict pattern with your ex. I don’t think either is wrong, although I know more coparents that do allow flexibility. It does make it much harder if you and DP are in different arrangements. It makes it less practical/compatible.

bittertwisted · 07/07/2026 08:57

onthefloors · 07/07/2026 08:25

If it was me I’d do the same. No way am I looking after the kids so my ex can go away with his new Mrs!

Or why does this shit mother want to have her kids even less than the 50% she does currently
why doesn’t she take them with her?

DixonD · 07/07/2026 08:56

Sweetsalad · 07/07/2026 08:52

Look at it another way, how utterly awful it would feel for the children if they knew neither parent wanted them at a weekend

My ex is constantly doing this and my view is that it is important for my children to have one stable home where they are always wanted.

Again, this. What is with some of the people on this thread? I hope you don’t all have children. My child would always be welcome with me, whatever the other parent was “playing at”.

Don’t punish the children for the ex’s behaviour.

NorthernSouthern · 07/07/2026 08:55

I’m in a similar situation to your DP. Although my ex (who I am divorced from) & I have more like a 60/40 split.

He goes on holiday over his time multiple times a year. Without someone having the DC he couldn’t have a full week (or more). I don’t think I’m weak for agreeing to this. The difference is that if I do have plans one of the evenings then he’ll get his parents to look after the DC so I don’t miss out.

It does impact my relationship (that is a similar length & similar situation re non blending of teens) but he is understanding & we work round it.

I think at least part of the problem is that your ex won’t switch. If he would it sounds like it would be less of a problem.

What I do, which may help in your situation, is that I have a shared calendar on an app where I put in dates I’m going to be away (even if it’s on his time with the kids). Then he knows that he can’t ask me to have them. It means we can plan in advance. If it impacts time I’m meant to have them then of course I check first.

If you had something booked then your DP should have said no but I can understand him saying yes to his ex if you were still in the planning phases. I do have sympathy as I’m sure it’s annoying. I feel it would be less annoying if your previous break hadn’t been cancelled but that wasn’t ex’s DPs fault.

Saying all that I know it’s incredibly hard making the sort of relationship work that we have. I wouldn’t blame you for having doubts.

DixonD · 07/07/2026 08:55

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 06/07/2026 20:31

I doubt he wants his children being cared for by others when it could be him if he’s a decent dad

if he pushed for 5050 he needs to accept that inconveniences happen sometimes

This. It’s the same for all parents, together or not. When you have children, they shouldn’t be optional.

I don’t get all the anger about this OP. A decent dad will choose his children over your frustration. If you think he should side with you, then yes, you should leave - for the sake of the children.

HandPulledNoodles · 07/07/2026 08:54

Why are you mad at the ex? she owes you nothing. Direct your anger at your spineless DH.

Sweetsalad · 07/07/2026 08:52

mondaycando1 · 06/07/2026 20:23

They have 50/50 custody, she has half the year to book holidays and yet in the 3 years we've been together, she must have booked half a dozen holidays that mean he's needed to have the kids on her time. He NEVER says no for fear of upsetting her.

Their divorce has dragged on for most of those 3 years (they've been separated 6+ years, she had an affair, still with the bloke as far as he knows) as he deferred to most of her demands and didn't fight them for fear of upsetting her.

He was really ill last month which meant we had to cancel the long awaited 5 day break we had booked (I also have 50/50 custody, same pattern, so 5 days is the most we can get away together, other stuff often gets in the way so this only happens a couple of times a year).

Just this morning, to celebrate him finally being able to push the button on the divorce final order today, we fathom out another weekend in 3 months time we can get away together. What happens this afternoon- she tells him she's booked a holiday that very same weekend we had free and could he have the DC? I totally swear she's done it out if spite because of the final order. Of course, so he doesn't upset her, he's agreed.

Fuming here.

Look at it another way, how utterly awful it would feel for the children if they knew neither parent wanted them at a weekend

My ex is constantly doing this and my view is that it is important for my children to have one stable home where they are always wanted.

Honeyhonayboo · 07/07/2026 08:51

mondaycando1 · 06/07/2026 20:59

Thanks for the different opinions folks!

I totally get the wanting more time with your kids, lord knows the 50/50 I have hurts but my ex won't swap point blank so we're stuck to the weekends we have, I don't doubt he's a good father though hardly know his kids, the whole "blended" family thing isn't on the agenda at all, certainly not with 4 teens.

Yes bottom line is he's weak I guess.

You just seem to have the assumption that every one of his weekends “off” are yours and he should be able to act like a child free man.

Only a very, very small number of your weekends have actually been impacted by him having his children.

It’s so strange what so many women seem to look for in a man with kids and spending anything other than the bare minimum of time with them is “weak”.

mondaycando1 · 07/07/2026 08:46

ClaudiaCasswell · 07/07/2026 08:25

You hardly know his kids? Not suggesting you become a ‘blended family’ (shudder) but surely if you’re in a relationship with this guy you’d at least make an effort in getting to know them.

Because we have the same custody patterns there has not been much opportunity to get to know them! Likewise, him with my DC. There's nothing sinister here! Typical Mumsnet, damned if you introduce a new partner, damned if you don't 😄

OP posts:
PhaedraTwo · 07/07/2026 08:44

ThatPeppyMauvePoster · 07/07/2026 08:36

So take the kids on holiday with you? Parents who are still together don't get long weekends away and long holidays together without their kids.

You either accept the children or you don't.

If you are not interested in a step mum role, then yes you absolutely should split and move on. I don't think that's wrong, but I do think it's wrong to try and act like he's not a father. Whether or not his ex is unreasonable is neither here not there.

Exactly. The OP said

He was really ill last month which meant we had to cancel the long awaited 5 day break we had booked (I also have 50/50 custody, same pattern, so 5 days is the most we can get away together, other stuff often gets in the way so this only happens a couple of times a year).

I don't recall having any time away on our own without our son until he was well into his teens.

Balloonhearts · 07/07/2026 08:43

Reply that actually that works out amazing as you're going on holiday (uk of course, no need for passports) so kids can come too, it'll be a fantastic chance for you to bond with them and you'll all have a great time.

She'll cancel her trip before you've even finished typing the passive aggressive kisses.

Holidaymodeon · 07/07/2026 08:36

My ex did this to me for years and it played havoc with not only my life but the kids’ too.
I had solicitors involved, allsorts.
in the end health reasons meant he had to (largely) stick to a routine but it took around ten years to get to that point.
I feel your pain, I understand why your partner gives in, he probably just wants to give the kids stability. I wouldn’t say he’s wet per se, I don’t think I was wet but it was hard, life has so many challenges, I didn’t want to spend time battling with an ex.
maybe it’s for you to decide whether you want to stay in this relationship as it seems like the situation might not change anytime soon

ThatPeppyMauvePoster · 07/07/2026 08:36

So take the kids on holiday with you? Parents who are still together don't get long weekends away and long holidays together without their kids.

You either accept the children or you don't.

If you are not interested in a step mum role, then yes you absolutely should split and move on. I don't think that's wrong, but I do think it's wrong to try and act like he's not a father. Whether or not his ex is unreasonable is neither here not there.

Mix56 · 07/07/2026 08:27

He can say No, She will have to find alternative arrangements

onthefloors · 07/07/2026 08:25

If it was me I’d do the same. No way am I looking after the kids so my ex can go away with his new Mrs!

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