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AIBU to hope the USA crash out the World Cup because of this FIFA corruption?

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Namingbaba · 06/07/2026 17:10

I'm no fan of Trump, but until this red card nonsense I hoped the USA would do well. I always think it's good when the tournament hosts do well.
But now it's come out that Trump personally called FIFA to get the red card removed? Absolute joke. It’s blatant corruption. I really hope Belgium absolutely humiliate them.

I think whether it should have been a red card isn't the main point. There are plenty of decisions that could be challenged. That's just the nature of the game.

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SpidersAreShitheads · 10/07/2026 22:13

Namingbaba · 09/07/2026 19:21

Not sure what I wrote that claims teams aren't using these breaks tactically. I said teams can prepare for it. If you are forced to play in quarters you plan for quarters obviously.

There have been hydration breaks in tournaments in the past when it was too hot but no one complained about all matches regardless of temperature needing to have them for formatting reasons. If it were a fundamental sporting necessity to ensure an even playing field it would become a permanent rule of the game going forward. But that hasn't happened, it's a custom policy for this world cup. The next world cup is in Morocco, Spain and Portugal. All will be hot in summer. Some matches will likely need hydration breaks. You say it will be the same format - that hasn't been announced. We'll see but I would be amazed if it was, and if that's true it undermines the argument FIFA make about standardisation.

Using player's welfare and standardisation arguments are easier to make than we're trying to please American companies.

100% this.

Teams are using it for tactical reasons but that’s absolutely not why they were introduced in the first place.

Games don’t all need the same format - there have been matches in the past when hydration breaks were included while other games in the same tournament didn’t have them.

In the Qatar Workd Cup, hydration breaks were only used on an as-needed basis. So why suddenly for the US World Cup has FIFA decreed that there MUST be a hydration break, even in stadiums where conditions were cooler than the U.K? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what’s really happening.

The PRIMARY reason hydration breaks have been introduced for every game is for US advertising - FIFA are keeping the money-men happy.

The reason why hydration breaks are getting booed during every match is because fans know it’s a cynical money-spinning move that’s designed for the US market - player comfort and safety isn’t what’s driving this.

Also worth pointing out that multiple coaches have said that the hydration breaks often aren’t needed. Many of them are opposed to them being used like this.

We’re now looking at a 45-minutes without halftime for the Final with seven different acts lined up to perform, Super Bowl-style.

We have the closing ceremony coming shortly after - there’s no need to fuck up the match timings. I don’t know how players will go back on the pitch without warming up again!

This World Cup has been a disgrace from FIFA.

Namingbaba · 09/07/2026 19:21

Not sure what I wrote that claims teams aren't using these breaks tactically. I said teams can prepare for it. If you are forced to play in quarters you plan for quarters obviously.

There have been hydration breaks in tournaments in the past when it was too hot but no one complained about all matches regardless of temperature needing to have them for formatting reasons. If it were a fundamental sporting necessity to ensure an even playing field it would become a permanent rule of the game going forward. But that hasn't happened, it's a custom policy for this world cup. The next world cup is in Morocco, Spain and Portugal. All will be hot in summer. Some matches will likely need hydration breaks. You say it will be the same format - that hasn't been announced. We'll see but I would be amazed if it was, and if that's true it undermines the argument FIFA make about standardisation.

Using player's welfare and standardisation arguments are easier to make than we're trying to please American companies.

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · 09/07/2026 17:12

@Namingbaba No. Not entirely. It’s so that all games have the same format. There are no differences. In moderate temps it’s not needed but if you are actually understanding the nature of the breaks, they have developed into tactical team talks. It also means teams are playing to the 4 quarters model. That’s been very clear. I definitely don’t want to see football played in 35 degree heat with no hydration breaks. I object to playing a winter game in the summer full stop - but hydration breaks are now tactical breaks. Not sure how you’ve missed this?

Namingbaba · 09/07/2026 16:34

There have been hydration breaks in stadiums that are full air conditioned so regardless of the weather outside they will be at a steady temperature. The welfare point doesn't hold up in many cases. It's undeniably just for ad revenue. At least teams can prepare for it since it's all games but it does change the flow.

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SpidersAreShitheads · 09/07/2026 16:25

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 08/07/2026 13:22

They are not going to have hydration breaks for some and not others! It’s way too hot for football in too many cities. However teams are now using the hydration breaks as part of tactics. England did. The medics have talked at length about the need for hydration and safety of players and if FIFA will choose hot countries, this is where we are. Spain/Portugal will be the same. Much better in South America (mostly) in 8 years time. It’s fifa that’s the problem but I want fit players. Playing at altitude was wrong too because it benefitted Mexico and no one else.

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Plenty of competitions feature hydration breaks in some games but not others. The conditions before the game are assessed and it’s determined whether they will be needed.

The hydration breaks have given teams the chance to regroup and been beneficial in some cases. But at other times it’s been disadvantageous because it’s killed momentum.

As the old saying goes, football is a game of two halves - not four quarters. No one wants players to suffer so if FIFA are stupid/corrupt enough to organise a tournament in a stadium that’s too hot to play a full half, then of course hydration breaks should happen.

The issue isn’t about hydration breaks occurring when they’re vital - it’s about the fact that they were only insisted on in this tournament to please US moneymakers because they need to squeeze in an advertising break. It’s not about player welfare or improving the game.

I totally support hydration breaks when they’re necessary - but not when they’re implemented for financial reasons.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 08/07/2026 13:22

They are not going to have hydration breaks for some and not others! It’s way too hot for football in too many cities. However teams are now using the hydration breaks as part of tactics. England did. The medics have talked at length about the need for hydration and safety of players and if FIFA will choose hot countries, this is where we are. Spain/Portugal will be the same. Much better in South America (mostly) in 8 years time. It’s fifa that’s the problem but I want fit players. Playing at altitude was wrong too because it benefitted Mexico and no one else.

FunnyOrca · 07/07/2026 19:23

Mokel · 07/07/2026 19:06

Hydration breaks are for the US tv networks for advertising!

They were part of stadiums with air con and when it’s been 17c

Yes, money hungry.

They don’t understand how the game works. Momentum, possession and stamina are completely broken with the hydration breaks, which aren’t even needed if there’s AC.

Mokel · 07/07/2026 19:06

FunnyOrca · 07/07/2026 15:42

I have been waiting for them to crash out from the start 🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪

They started a war for no good reason and have been rounding up their own citizens. If Russia are disqualified, so should the US. If you condemn Qatar for human rights violations, condemn the US too.

They have also done a poor job of hosting. These hydration breaks in air conditioned stadia just show how poorly they understand football and how money hungry the whole thing is. Disgusting. Glad they are out. Sad it took this long. Well done Belgium.

I still think Lord Dampnut will try to steal the trophy, like he did from Chelsea.

Hydration breaks are for the US tv networks for advertising!

They were part of stadiums with air con and when it’s been 17c

Mokel · 07/07/2026 19:04

Trump is reported to present the World Cup. Remember when he presented Chelsea with the World Club Cup, he pocketed a winners’ medal. Then stayed whilst the Chelsea players were cheering. Cole Palmer’s face was a picture.

Plus Chelsea has a replica trophy as Trump has the real one in the Oval Office

Can you imagine if Belgium wins it?

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 07/07/2026 15:43

@Namingbaba I think Lukaku is a bit unfit!

@Crushed23 Do you not understand irony! Trump has obviously taken NO notice of football and doesn’t know the rules! How long do you think his interest has been in the actual game? The same applies to millions of Americans. They are very new to watching football and have only started due to this World Cup. Plenty of Americans thought Trump was correct. They don’t have 140 years of playing football. I agree other countries don’t either but they are not blatantly trying to rig a game via their presidents complaining!

FunnyOrca · 07/07/2026 15:42

I have been waiting for them to crash out from the start 🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪🇧🇪

They started a war for no good reason and have been rounding up their own citizens. If Russia are disqualified, so should the US. If you condemn Qatar for human rights violations, condemn the US too.

They have also done a poor job of hosting. These hydration breaks in air conditioned stadia just show how poorly they understand football and how money hungry the whole thing is. Disgusting. Glad they are out. Sad it took this long. Well done Belgium.

I still think Lord Dampnut will try to steal the trophy, like he did from Chelsea.

Crushed23 · 07/07/2026 15:36

My money is on Spain in the next match, but Lukaku won’t make it easy for them.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 07/07/2026 15:33

Namingbaba · 07/07/2026 10:15

Remember in 2015 when the USA went after FIFA for corruption and got many guilty pleas and seized more than $200 million? I was cheering the USA on then.

Then Infantino got involved in 2016. Interesting.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/07/2026 15:25

Any bets Trump will now make some belittling comments about ‘soccer’ not being a proper game for bigly true American men or suchlike anyway?

Crushed23 · 07/07/2026 15:08

The US played shite from the off. It was a foregone conclusion to me! I sat there biting my tongue as I was next to American DP with our American neighbours all around (we live here). Wanted to scream haha.

Namingbaba · 07/07/2026 14:32

I don't think it was a foregone conclusion that Belgium would win. They got out their group with just one win (against New Zealand). Their first knockout game was against Senegal (the lowest ranking 3rd place team to qualify for knockouts). They only won that match after a controversial penalty in extra time.

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Crushed23 · 07/07/2026 14:16

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 07/07/2026 13:55

@Crushed23 Hmm! Belgium aren’t that great right now! The USA team were undermined by this intervention. It should never have happened. The USA team played very flat and the spirit was gone. I have a great deal of sympathy for them and they accepted the rules. The fact huge numbers of Americans don’t understand the rules or the affect this row could have on the team, means they maybe should not get involved with football. They aren’t cut out for a game they did not “invent” or have any interest in until 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks ago? You know soccer has been around for much, much longer than that lol. And no one is trying to undermine the myriad of other countries whose ‘interest in football’ is relatively new, are they. I wish people would leave politics, xenophobia and god knows what else out of football - it cheapens the beautiful game FFS.

Anyway, the (much) better team won, and bring on Spain v Belgium!

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 07/07/2026 13:55

@Crushed23 Hmm! Belgium aren’t that great right now! The USA team were undermined by this intervention. It should never have happened. The USA team played very flat and the spirit was gone. I have a great deal of sympathy for them and they accepted the rules. The fact huge numbers of Americans don’t understand the rules or the affect this row could have on the team, means they maybe should not get involved with football. They aren’t cut out for a game they did not “invent” or have any interest in until 2 weeks ago.

Mokel · 07/07/2026 13:52

HumbleKatey · 07/07/2026 13:16

The ‘FIFA Peace Prize’ was awarded to Trump. Now FIFA have overturned a USA player’s suspension purely based on a phone call from the orange buffoon.

That was because he didn’t get to win the Nobel Peace Prize

Doesnt warrant that at all

Crushed23 · 07/07/2026 13:23

mathanxiety · 07/07/2026 03:24

I'm in the US and cheered for Belgium all the way. I could hear my next door neighbours on both sides, and upstairs neighbours, all cheering the Belgian goals too.

I’m in the US too and definitely behind Belgium!

I do find it amusing that some posters were insinuating that an ‘intervention’ from the president could make a sub-par team win against Belgium, then in the same breath also complain that Americans don’t understand football. The irony!

Really looking forward to Spain v Belgium 🔥

HumbleKatey · 07/07/2026 13:16

The ‘FIFA Peace Prize’ was awarded to Trump. Now FIFA have overturned a USA player’s suspension purely based on a phone call from the orange buffoon.

Mokel · 07/07/2026 11:44

Monty36 · 07/07/2026 11:20

He has already joked he won’t run for a third term. That would be unfair or something.
Which I would interpret to mean he is seriously thinking about it.

He will be president in July 2028, if he is still lingering.

Dementia, circulation issues, breathing badly, obese (he’s not 225lb that White House says - more like 300lb), plus whatever he’s having injected via IV - bruises on back of hands.

Monty36 · 07/07/2026 11:20

Mokel · 07/07/2026 10:33

I’m bloody glad. Trump should not be interfering with sport nor the president of FIFA shouldn’t have caved in with Trump’s toddler tantrums.

If Trump still lingering on to dear life in two years (he’s sicker than White House say) time it will be the Olympics in LA. Dread to think what Trump do. More nationalities, more athletes.

Another event that Trump will ruin with his interference.

The Trump Touch - the opposite to the Midas Touch. Everything he touches, turns to disaster, embarrassment etc

He has already joked he won’t run for a third term. That would be unfair or something.
Which I would interpret to mean he is seriously thinking about it.

JHound · 07/07/2026 10:35

JudgeJ · 07/07/2026 09:46

It's still sleepy time in the US, he has plenty of time to decide that all 4 goals were 'off side', if someone tells him those words, and get his besty Infantino to reverse the decision, he could also now give Ronaldo an American passport before the next match they no doubt win!
Roll on the Olympics where the OOOESSAYY win biggly, 105% of all the medals, and Trump dons a new wig to win the November election, taking 105 of the Senate seats and 108% of the other lot.

He’s busy posting about the Obamas…again.

He will get round to the football eventually.

Mokel · 07/07/2026 10:33

I’m bloody glad. Trump should not be interfering with sport nor the president of FIFA shouldn’t have caved in with Trump’s toddler tantrums.

If Trump still lingering on to dear life in two years (he’s sicker than White House say) time it will be the Olympics in LA. Dread to think what Trump do. More nationalities, more athletes.

Another event that Trump will ruin with his interference.

The Trump Touch - the opposite to the Midas Touch. Everything he touches, turns to disaster, embarrassment etc

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